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Dec 12, 2024
12:19:02pm

Bobber Contributor

Why would I stay if other employers will pay 100% for the same results?

Good luck keeping highly capable employees with policies like that.

Would any employer really want to replace me with someone who takes 3x as long to get the same results (and since they're now paying hourly, they have to pay them 3x more than me to do it)?

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Bobber

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My employer (large Fortune 50) is doing mandatory 5x8 in the office nationwide

shoganai

9:10am

at that point why not make everyone hourly?

Schultz is back

9:13am

And why even let them go home at night? Should just chain them to the desk

ChiCityCoug

9:16am

We'll see how strictly it gets enforced. A lot of people are assuming this is

shoganai

9:19am

That's a huge factor right now — easy way to purge without firing/layoffs

Bobber

9:23am

These measures feel like a good old fashion scream test.

rad dawg

9:21am

Ah yes, the office culture...

fredgarvin

9:14am

How to not attract talent. Treat everyone like they are children.

maYbe

9:18am

Employees have to actually be trust-worthy to be trusted and too many executives are finding out that

2FarGone

9:20am

While I see this, I also believe in giving employees autonomy and hard

1984coug

9:42am

This is true, but as an employer, I think about it this way:

2FarGone

10:03am

which should be happening annually anyways

1984coug

10:54am

People abusing WFH is the biggest reason for this growing trend

2FarGone

9:19am

A lot of the corporate world "abuses" work-at-work too

Bobber

9:21am

it really is a problem

2FarGone

9:24am

A funny thing with a company I advise. They had employees that wanted to go back to the office.

tamasiaina

9:39am

My time is not a company resource

Bobber

10:32am

They switch you to hourly and pay you 70% less than they do.

2FarGone

10:37am

Why would I stay if other employers will pay 100% for the same results?

Bobber

12:19pm

I remember there all of these youtube videos of people doing "life of a software engineer at Google"

tamasiaina

9:34am

There was another viral video of a pair of female product managers in their bathing suits by the pool "working"

2FarGone

10:01am

I am paid to do my work. End of story.

TheWanderer

10:03am

The company should just increase your goals and workload then.

2FarGone

10:04am

I think they are happy with the status quo.

TheWanderer

10:10am

I've known exactly zero people doing that. Overblown mythology.

Mitty

10:16am

We learned in the 80's that for most jobs, being in the office is better (for the employer). It's no surprise to me that

HarlemCoug

9:23am

My company is going from 3 days to 4 days in office on Jan 1. Lot of unhappy people yesterday. What they don’t know is

WDaddy

9:23am

So ... there's a big swing to go BTO in the industry lately for many reasons

tamasiaina

9:30am

Phone logs? To help verify presence or monitor productive use of phones?

Florwood

9:32am

They're using phone network connectivity logs to verify location and help track

shoganai

9:36am

I've been getting tired of hearing everyones dogs barking and kids sreaming in

fredy

9:34am

My employer (also large Fortune 500) was aggressive during the pandemic against

QBarrister

9:39am

Before this, when I had to go into an office I tried to avoid certain

1984coug

9:46am

I am glad to be at a company that has and is embracing WFH. We still have physical locations...

Tokolosh

9:40am

My good friend at his fortune 3 company did internal research

DataMouth

9:50am

While I don’t think you can mandate culture at all, I also see the problem with just having remote employees as they

specsauce

9:50am

RE: My employer (large Fortune 50) is doing mandatory 5x8 in the office

joelvandyne

10:37am

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