at that point why not make everyone hourly?

Dec 12, 2024
9:13:50am

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I would hate that. So as an exempt employee do you have to use PTO to go to a dentist appointment or a kid's school program during the day? That's just dumb.

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My employer (large Fortune 50) is doing mandatory 5x8 in the office nationwide

shoganai

9:10am

at that point why not make everyone hourly?

Schultz is back

9:13am

And why even let them go home at night? Should just chain them to the desk

ChiCityCoug

9:16am

We'll see how strictly it gets enforced. A lot of people are assuming this is

shoganai

9:19am

That's a huge factor right now — easy way to purge without firing/layoffs

Bobber

9:23am

These measures feel like a good old fashion scream test.

rad dawg

9:21am

Ah yes, the office culture...

fredgarvin

9:14am

How to not attract talent. Treat everyone like they are children.

maYbe

9:18am

Employees have to actually be trust-worthy to be trusted and too many executives are finding out that

2FarGone

9:20am

While I see this, I also believe in giving employees autonomy and hard

1984coug

9:42am

This is true, but as an employer, I think about it this way:

2FarGone

10:03am

which should be happening annually anyways

1984coug

10:54am

People abusing WFH is the biggest reason for this growing trend

2FarGone

9:19am

A lot of the corporate world "abuses" work-at-work too

Bobber

9:21am

it really is a problem

2FarGone

9:24am

A funny thing with a company I advise. They had employees that wanted to go back to the office.

tamasiaina

9:39am

My time is not a company resource

Bobber

10:32am

They switch you to hourly and pay you 70% less than they do.

2FarGone

10:37am

I remember there all of these youtube videos of people doing "life of a software engineer at Google"

tamasiaina

9:34am

There was another viral video of a pair of female product managers in their bathing suits by the pool "working"

2FarGone

10:01am

I am paid to do my work. End of story.

TheWanderer

10:03am

The company should just increase your goals and workload then.

2FarGone

10:04am

I think they are happy with the status quo.

TheWanderer

10:10am

I've known exactly zero people doing that. Overblown mythology.

Mitty

10:16am

We learned in the 80's that for most jobs, being in the office is better (for the employer). It's no surprise to me that

HarlemCoug

9:23am

My company is going from 3 days to 4 days in office on Jan 1. Lot of unhappy people yesterday. What they don’t know is

WDaddy

9:23am

So ... there's a big swing to go BTO in the industry lately for many reasons

tamasiaina

9:30am

Phone logs? To help verify presence or monitor productive use of phones?

Florwood

9:32am

They're using phone network connectivity logs to verify location and help track

shoganai

9:36am

I've been getting tired of hearing everyones dogs barking and kids sreaming in

fredy

9:34am

My employer (also large Fortune 500) was aggressive during the pandemic against

QBarrister

9:39am

Before this, when I had to go into an office I tried to avoid certain

1984coug

9:46am

I am glad to be at a company that has and is embracing WFH. We still have physical locations...

Tokolosh

9:40am

My good friend at his fortune 3 company did internal research

DataMouth

9:50am

While I don’t think you can mandate culture at all, I also see the problem with just having remote employees as they

specsauce

9:50am

RE: My employer (large Fortune 50) is doing mandatory 5x8 in the office

joelvandyne

10:37am

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