Perfect example and primary reason Arod needs to be replaced and it’s not

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Dec 3, 2024
11:33:39pm

Das_Countach Intervention Needed

Perfect example and primary reason Arod needs to be replaced and it’s not

…about his play calling that makes him terrible (it’s adequate).

However, it is his inability to secure top talent, especially top LDS talent and honestly, after hearing many stories like this tweet below, I’m beginning to believe he may just not be good at even spotting it.

Case in point— the SEC (via Oklahoma) is cherry picking a Lehi QB in BYU’s own backyard… and apparently Arod was either too good to offer him or whiffed on scouting this now future SEC QB. (And let’s not forget he also whiffed on another now SEC-bound QB named Helaman.)

Jake Murphy (former BYU and Utah TE and son of Dale Murphy, who’s baffled that neither program offered Jett Niu) tweeted this out earlier today and appears to know the Niu family and said that BYU (Arod) “big timed him” early on in the recruiting process:

IF true…..

Imagine BYU and Utah needing QBs in the coming years and not offering the kid in their back yard who is getting SEC looks.

Crazy. https://t.co/2UDwlwsoWj
— jake murphy (@Jak3Murphy) December 3, 2024

https://twitter.com/Jak3Murphy/status/1864094256396201995

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Perfect example and primary reason Arod needs to be replaced and it’s not

Dec 3, 11:33pm

Already his third school to commit to. Impressive.

JuicyJam

Dec 3, 11:50pm

Using 247 ratings, BYU has a commitment from the #66 QB in the country

StantonMac

Dec 3, 11:54pm

…almost identical rating to both Zach Wilson and Jaren Hall…

Dec 4, 12:05am

And? That is completely irrelevant.

StantonMac

Dec 4, 12:23am

Not any more or less irrelevant than your initial comment

Dec 4, 12:28am

It’s completely relevant to counter your assertion that ARod can’t recruit

StantonMac

Dec 4, 12:33am

Teams can only offer one QB a class. Offering 2 means not all in

Bobmarleyjr

Dec 4, 1:11pm

Arod is lazy. He needs to offer everyone 1 to 99.

sah22

Dec 4, 1:17pm

Noncommittable offers?

Cooouuugs

Dec 4, 2:01pm

I’m in full agreement that BYU needs better QB recruiting year in and year out but this kid isn’t the answer. There are

Zach Morris

Dec 4, 12:06am

…I don’t know man, threw for nearly 400 yds, 74% 5TD 0int vs Corner Canyon

Dec 4, 12:11am

Fair point and normally a school like OU is a great barometer but I’ve seen them offer relatively low quality guys in

Zach Morris

Dec 4, 12:15am

Yeah can’t stand that Venables giy

Cooouuugs

Dec 4, 4:46am

CC D is not that great.

fattycoug

Dec 4, 10:10am

No idea, but OU has a new OC...potentially tracked him at WSU.

Cougstreak

Dec 4, 9:23am

Talking with Helaman - he never seemed like he was interested in staying in Utah

crack

Dec 4, 12:37am

Im sure $$ was a factor as well &definitely something that is difficult for BYU

Dec 4, 12:51am

Kalani needs to change that mindset ASAP. Life is all about the Benjamin's

gopman

Dec 4, 5:18am

That is mandate by BYU and the BoT

Schultz is back

Dec 4, 9:18am

True, but there is something to it. I feel like there is a difference between

RoboKayne

Dec 4, 9:25am

It's a fine line. BYU/Kalani have valid points. Culture, integrity, perception

Dec 4, 10:17am

I wouldn’t worry about this kid. He’s as flaky as the day is long.

Adwight

Dec 4, 2:40am

The same ARod that cooled on Isaac Wilson and decided not to pursue him, good choice.

Dec 4, 5:27am

I don’t think that’s true

Dec 4, 6:21am

Im pretty sure it was the exact opposite, Isaac cooled on Arod, the confirmation

Dec 4, 7:23am

Do you have inside info on this?

niqmadu

Dec 4, 7:29am

Who cares either way. Wasn’t coming to BYU and nobody is convinced it

stoils

Dec 4, 8:01am

No, there are plenty of people here that know the real story and situation. What happens on FO stays on FO.

Dec 4, 7:23pm

Story I've always heard, Wilson was a sure-fire lock and the family asked BYU to stop recruiting Hammond, which they did

Dec 4, 8:49am

Very true.

Dec 4, 7:24pm

What is more important… getting big recruits or putting QBs in the NFL?

Pretorian

Dec 4, 6:23am

100% agree. Of all the ARod critiques, QB recruiting and development might be the worst.

cscougar

Dec 4, 7:25am

My kids go to Lehi & I have watched Jett play many times.There are better option

ElkhunterUT

Dec 4, 6:49am

Wait isn't Nolan Keeney in that same class?

NGB

Dec 4, 7:02am

A mid to low 3 star with a better rated QB in same class committed to BYU is

NYC and Japan

Dec 4, 7:09am

Or another way took at this is that oklahomas recruiting is so bad that

niqmadu

Dec 4, 7:33am

Just stop. Tell me that you don’t know the intricacies and nuances

Refugee

Dec 4, 7:56am

Would you like Arod to put hand cuffs on the kid and bring him to campus by

Polecat

Dec 4, 8:20am

Yea, with the reduced scholarship #s let’s fire our OC because he didn’t offer

BYU I Bleed Blue

Dec 4, 8:30am

He recruited that big time ginger recruit that Alabama wanted. Didn't work out

boctabulous

Dec 4, 9:03am

BYU is going to lose many head to head battles with SEC and B1G teams

reddead

Dec 4, 9:16am

I don't know the Niu and BYU history, but I know Casuga was never a real target for BYU (ie he did not have interest).

Cougstreak

Dec 4, 9:21am

Just sign Ryder Lyons and we are set.

Cougstreak

Dec 4, 12:46pm

I agree with the premise but this is not the example you are looking for.

Lifer

Dec 4, 12:10pm

...agree, Niu isn't the worst example, but this shows the scope of the issue

Dec 4, 1:00pm

Why is it so difficult to some to see Arod’s virtue? He’s been great

gocougs719

Dec 4, 1:02pm

Some on here have a weird obsession with proving he stinks.

runnincoug

Dec 4, 1:42pm

and some have a weird obsession ignoring his less than stellar track record

Dec 4, 1:46pm

to the contrary, I wasn't very optimistic about him before, but he's been great

runnincoug

Dec 4, 1:50pm

"this year"? ...the year that defense & special teams scored 1/3 the pts? lol

Dec 4, 1:54pm

Yes, the year that he took a terrible QB, made him 3rd highest rated (PFF)

runnincoug

Dec 4, 2:34pm

…Arod, the reason there ARE only terrible QBs on the team that he HAD to make

Dec 4, 2:50pm

I'm not sure we'll see eye to eye on this.

runnincoug

Dec 4, 3:19pm

haha, that one cooked you. Your arbitrary reasoning won't back you out of

Dec 4, 4:18pm

I can tell you are completely unreasonable in your evaluation because

StantonMac

Dec 4, 4:37pm

I didn't concede anything. You're not really making sense at this point.

runnincoug

Dec 4, 4:46pm

Oh it makes complete sense, and you know what I am stating is accurate, but

Dec 4, 4:55pm

No, I don't think you're accurate at all. But arguing with you any further

runnincoug

Dec 4, 5:00pm

lol, then tell me why he didnt have anyone better to go than Retzlaff- simple Q

Dec 4, 5:08pm

Because recruiting isn't a draft. You don't just get to say "I pick you".

StantonMac

Dec 4, 5:14pm

lol, so you don’t have a response for it either, I see 😂

Dec 4, 5:19pm

Honestly, it's a little hard to take you seriously when you started this

StantonMac

Dec 4, 5:46pm

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gocougs719

Dec 4, 6:22pm

BYU recruited Jake, the 3rd best QB in the Big12 with a year to play

NYC and Japan

Dec 5, 3:03pm

Ranked 10th out of 16 in QBR... behind Ok State's Bowman... you making up stats?

Dec 5, 3:06pm

Nope. Shared the Big12 awards just announced. Actual link from Big12 website

NYC and Japan

Dec 5, 3:21pm

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