Ever since Arod took over for Grimes, our TE production has declined

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Nov 16, 2024
8:56:59am

Das_Countach Contributor

Ever since Arod took over for Grimes, our TE production has declined

…significantly. Pre-Arod the leading Receivers on the team were the tight ends (Bushman was #1 in ‘18 and #2 in receptions in ‘19)

…this continued under Grimes in 2020 w/ Rex, as a freshman, had 37 receptions

There has been a steep decline in TW production since Arod took the offense over… where leading TEs are generally in the teens and low 20s in receptions

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Hope this isn't true

UNLVcougar

Nov 15, 11:31pm

Jake throws to the playmakers. Be a TE playmaker and you'll get the ball.

Ted Lasso

Nov 15, 11:32pm

I bet if our TEs were better, we’d pass to them more.

KingDave

Nov 15, 11:32pm

Not necessarily true— Roderick’s offense ignores the middle of the field

Nov 15, 11:36pm

Hasn't really been the case this year

spidercoug

Nov 15, 11:37pm

…data to prove this? Respectfully disagree

Nov 15, 11:43pm

Half the throws against Utah were over the middle

Veep

Nov 15, 11:54pm

Including the throw to Marion on the TD drive

Littlerich

Nov 15, 11:54pm

Roberts over the middle on 4-5 4th downs this year including OSU on final drive

puntersarepeople

12:18am

Read it and weep

Indy Coug

12:40am

RE: Read it and weep

HiLife

3:36am

RE: Read it and weep

sah22

5:42am

This doesn't say we use the middle of the field a lot

krindorr

8:02am

Ever since Arod took over for Grimes, our TE production has declined

8:56am

You're actually quite wrong.

9:05am

More than two fantastic WRs. WR go about 6 deep before you hit one you don't

Kajdin

9:14am

Check the data, I’m def not wrong

9:24am

He gave you the data with Grimes' offense. Maybe its more than the coach?

spidercoug

9:33am

Did you watch the Utah game??

bag

7:10am

The middle of the field was open against Utah and that’s how we won.

Idacoug

Nov 15, 11:55pm

I guess you’ve completely ignored this entire season.

Indy Coug

12:38am

Jaren Hall ignored the middle of the field. Zach and Jake have not.

ldssdl

6:47am

You mean our TE that had a PFF blocking grade of 13 last game?

g$

Nov 15, 11:37pm

That’s pretty awful. Wow

BYUheaven

Nov 15, 11:44pm

13? I've never seen a grade so low. Is this true?

Dark Forest Green

7:42am

Yes, it's true that Keanu Hill had a blocking grade of 13. Out of 100.

8:20am

Ouch. I'm assuming this means Hill forgot to block, everytime?

Dark Forest Green

8:33am

Explains Utah’s effectiveness on blitzes.

xgbs

8:41am

IMO, our TE’s don’t warrant targets from the WR’s on the field. Ryder has the

BYUheaven

Nov 15, 11:35pm

Not sure I care if a kid is decommitting from the #6 team in the country b/c

Nov 15, 11:39pm

Agreed if you can ball, you can ball.

NYCougz

Nov 15, 11:43pm

Even more significant -

Eddie

6:21am

You have to be able to block in our scheme. And our blocking TE can’t catch

puntersarepeople

Nov 15, 11:42pm

Wrong. Ta'ase has 3 TD receptions, has good hands and blocks well.

Threw and Through

1:06am

What evidence is there that we throw to our TEs less often than other teams? What data do they find compelling?

HarlemCoug

Nov 15, 11:45pm

Just making sure people see the data. If there is a recruit who thinks we ignore tight ends then that recruit needs to

HarlemCoug

9:36am

Arod flat out needs to utilize the TE more

Idacoug

Nov 15, 11:54pm

Who do you want to get less touches? We have pretty good receivers and backs.

NYCougz

Nov 15, 11:59pm

I'd like to get a play in before negative 2 seconds on the play clock.

byubyu

1:16am

Meh, I enjoy winning. If the TEs aren’t helping us win, who needs them

stoils

8:49am

So we want to give inferior players more touches why? If we get more plays,

NYCougz

9:03am

The defensive linemen

QBarrister

5:25am

Personnel problem. Keanu Hill is only useful as a WR but we have better WRs

puntersarepeople

12:21am

What a bad fan.

kalifi

Nov 15, 11:56pm

According to this list, we don’t have any 4-star TEs committed:

Yucatan

Nov 15, 11:57pm

such a good BYU fan there, so realistic about things. 9-0 first place in the

franklyvulgar

1:04am

We have 3 TE commits, and potentially one of the top TEs in the country in '26.

3:20am

Interesting take

YLifer

4:49am

It wouldn't matter because we don't throw to TEs anyways

Blewis15

5:22am

Depends on the QB…

Cthack1

5:42am

TE's haven't really been a big part of the offense for years at BYU.

Grock

6:05am

Bushman was our featured dude

cajuncoug

6:59am

Isaac Rex got a lot of targets just a couple of years ago.

russkiejedi

8:18am

TE's really need to be a part of any offense

Heinz57

6:22am

One TE commit has 200 yards right now, another has 130 yards, can't find any offensive stats for the 3rd

mokelembembe

6:44am

It's not a loss if you don't use them

Count Cougar

7:15am

We threw to Isaac Rex a ton and he got worse each yr, then we’ve had good WRs

HeyU

8:14am

Oh, look our most important play in our most important game this year ...

8:16am

Nice! Ya good Eval on importance of that play to our season.

Blue chunks

11:01am

We want TEAM players. It ain't all about catching th ball

niqmadu

8:32am

Been saying this for a long time.

SoggyBB

8:35am

If I’m not mistaken but haven’t there been a lot of drops from the TEs

YeahWhatever

8:57am

Oh well. If we get studs at the other positions then I'm cool with this. We

boctabulous

8:58am

I prefer the wide receivers get the ball more than tight ends.

boctabulous

8:59am

Here’s the thing- TEs combined have something like 25 receptions

1984coug

9:02am

Yeah, ARod hates making substitutions on offense.

russkiejedi

9:10am

With the emergence of great set of WRs over the last several years, the TE

mudpupper

10:14am

I wonder what Keanu Hill thinks about his 102 yards and 1 measly TD in 9 games

CT98

10:18am

Prefers it to being WR5?

Plato

11:00am

BYU Blue??? I doubt it.

10:51am

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