There is one expectation you should have for sales people. Do they perform/hit quota? Everything else is just noise.

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Oct 9, 2024
1:30:10pm

Probable Sacko All-American

When they aren’t performing then you throw this stuff in their face.

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Probable Sacko

Previous username: Cougarmus Prime
Bio page: Probable Sacko
Joined: Oct 23, 2014
Last login: Dec 29, 2024
Total posts: 10,221 (176 FO)

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Author

Time

Uncomfortable Termination I have to make Today

CougaRR4L

Oct 9, 1:05pm

Hire slowly. Fire quickly.

fulano

Oct 9, 1:06pm

It is indeed unprofessional, but if you are basing it off of a previous employee, was it made clear to her that this was

supertux

Oct 9, 1:07pm

You don't need to tell someone that showing up for work is important.

byubyu

Oct 9, 1:09pm

Not all emplyers are created equal. I could do that and it wouldn't bother anyone.

supertux

Oct 9, 1:11pm

On day 2 you could bail early & then email that youre gonna be gone for a week?

byubyu

Oct 9, 1:17pm

Correct. No one would get fired at my company for just that, even on day two. I'm not saying these guys were wrong or

supertux

Oct 9, 1:19pm

I second this, my employer wouldn't bat an eye at this

justAnotherCoug

Oct 9, 2:05pm

Not based on the prior employee but that impacts the experience for sure. Not

CougaRR4L

Oct 9, 1:11pm

Fair enough

supertux

Oct 9, 1:12pm

It does sound like she’s partially being punished for a previous employee’s

Superkid

Oct 9, 1:13pm

RE: Uncomfortable Termination I have to make Today

TheHop

Oct 9, 1:07pm

That's cold.

swingcat

Oct 9, 1:09pm

Colder than leaving her company/team high and dry?

Jimo Dashen

Oct 9, 1:10pm

Were they left high and dry? Was she being depended on that much on her 2nd day?

SUAVO

Oct 9, 1:13pm

Also, it sounded like she started earlier than the employers wanted anyway.

NaturalNeuralNet

Oct 9, 1:19pm

Um, big time yes

justAnotherCoug

Oct 9, 1:40pm

it was her second day

Strawhat4life

Oct 10, 9:32am

Once you tell her, just sit and listen. Document as much as possible.

cmoney

Oct 9, 1:10pm

That's rough, for you and her. Don't understand why termination is the first

SUAVO

Oct 9, 1:11pm

Terminations are the worst...but you'll feel better after...just like puking

WVU_Prof

Oct 9, 1:11pm

I'm amazed how many adults don't know how to act like adults.

mudpupper

Oct 9, 1:13pm

This is exactly how it played out. Still would have been jarring but an adult

CougaRR4L

Oct 9, 1:17pm

So, she got fired for not having an adult conversation on her 2nd day while

SUAVO

Oct 9, 1:24pm

It's because she is a woman and the previous one was a man. Better hope she doesn't get ahold of this thread.

supertux

Oct 9, 1:25pm

Consult legal first. This looks like a lawsuit coming.

88Coug

Oct 9, 1:14pm

Especially since you fired a woman for doing what a man got away with…

ochobeeguy

Oct 9, 1:24pm

So what did they want instead of an email? Phone call shes employed? Email fired

DiamondMo

Oct 9, 1:16pm

Phone call would have allowed them to communicate with her. Here's the issue

rcbyufan

Oct 9, 1:24pm

What doesn't make sense about going back to take care of flooding in a house you're selling? Hopefully she was able

supertux

Oct 9, 1:26pm

Are you crazy? Call insurance and let them handle it. There is literally

rcbyufan

Oct 9, 1:33pm

What exactly was said to her when she said she had to deal with the flooding? If someone said something like “take care

vegasnative

Oct 9, 1:20pm

Sheesh, that's cold. Couldn't just give her a warning and explain the expectations?

cougfanblue

Oct 9, 1:21pm

I'll also say that I've never worked in a healthy culture where senior leaders made a habit...

cougfanblue

Oct 9, 1:35pm

Sounds like she had a move-related emergency, but could have communicated better

OrsoNero

Oct 9, 1:42pm

Be careful. Plus, your company allowed similar behavior (very recently) for a

garyfan

Oct 9, 1:24pm

I'll do it for you

BIG XII Coug

Oct 9, 1:25pm

There is one expectation you should have for sales people. Do they perform/hit quota? Everything else is just noise.

Probable Sacko

Oct 9, 1:30pm

Seems super sketchy given the circumstances of not firing the the other guy

Lefty24

Oct 9, 1:32pm

Honestly, your company is probably doing the right thing

cougarblue

Oct 9, 1:32pm

Wait, she sold her home to move to work for you? And you guys are canning her

IGlowInTheDark

Oct 9, 1:35pm

She flew back because she clearly hasn't moved and still owns the house and all

rcbyufan

Oct 9, 1:37pm

That's what an interstate move looks like, though.

OrsoNero

Oct 9, 1:45pm

So? You don’t often get to pack a house up and move to the new one seamlessly.

IGlowInTheDark

Oct 9, 1:47pm

This is true. I'm probably being too judgmental. I'd say it's a 60% chance she'

rcbyufan

Oct 9, 1:51pm

Sounds like she communicated. "Dear Sam, I am so grateful to be here and to

EDthoracotomy

Oct 9, 4:16pm

I hope HR has been looped in here. When leadership tries to pull this kind of stuff, a good HR department...

cougfanblue

Oct 9, 4:28pm

RE: I hope HR has been looped in here. When leadership tries to pull this kind of stuff, a good HR department...

supertux

Oct 9, 4:31pm

OP literally is the HR department

IGlowInTheDark

Oct 9, 5:27pm

OP has bragged in the past about the notoriety he gains in firing people

canuckchuck

Oct 10, 8:58am

This is why no one likes HR 😂

EDthoracotomy

Oct 10, 11:11am

Always interesting to get CB feedback, which was the main reason I posted

CougaRR4L

Oct 10, 11:27am

Aaaaaand... drumroll... she just texted and resigned. Made my life easier!

CougaRR4L

Oct 10, 11:36am

The best resolution possible…

IGlowInTheDark

Oct 10, 11:39am

Did she mention that she is on cb?

DiamondMo

Oct 10, 12:23pm

If the comms were terrible I get that but it sounds like she had a legitimate

EDthoracotomy

Oct 9, 10:19pm

I would hold off on termination. If you let someone else get away with it then

ShinobiCoug

Oct 9, 1:38pm

Man no offense but your company sounds like it sucks. Which sucks for the woman who moved and quit her old job

Mike Honcho

Oct 9, 1:51pm

A flooded basement makes her house un-sellable. Was she caught in the hurricane?

Forzaitalia

Oct 9, 2:19pm

She should sue

deliciousmocha

Oct 9, 2:47pm

If firing her, get a huge serverance check and release ready....

88Coug

Oct 9, 2:48pm

Tell us who you work for so we can never apply for a job there...... Sounds like

TheHop

Oct 9, 3:16pm

I hope she gets online and carpet-bombs your companies reputation

Future_Tacos

Oct 9, 10:04pm

I would refuse to fire. Leadership at company is trash.

EDthoracotomy

Oct 9, 10:20pm

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