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Sep 8, 2024
11:23:52pm

MaximusMeridius Truly Addicted User

When's the last time he didn't turn the ball over in a game? I think the bigger

Issue is also the type of turnovers he has.

Unfortunately his turnovers are usually from inaccuracy or poor ball security. They aren't from taking a risk on a bomb down field where his WR has a chance. They're just bad throws. And the fumbles are also inexcusable.

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MaximusMeridius

Previous username: Machiavelli
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Joined: Nov 10, 2015
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Two things can be true at once

MaximusMeridius

Sep 8, 11:16pm

I think people take issue when the negative is the only thing posted. I'm sure

SUAVO

Sep 8, 11:19pm

Then make more positive posts.

IdahoCoug

Sep 8, 11:20pm

Trying to

SUAVO

Sep 8, 11:20pm

Keep it up and don't engage the negative Nancys and chicken littles.

IdahoCoug

Sep 8, 11:24pm

Sharing factual data on our offense/Retzlaffs inefficiencies is not being a

Sep 9, 12:37am

…because you think the “analysis” you post on CB will affect or change the program.

mvtoro

Sep 9, 1:53am

Because this is a fan message board where fans discuss their team’s performance.

Sep 9, 7:05am

So explain to me why it would be “wrong” (🤣) to not share this “factual data”? Explain the moral obligation that

mvtoro

Sep 9, 10:31am

lol... ratioed

Sep 9, 10:42am

🤣Bro, you can have 10,000 people back your belief that your posts in CB actually affect HC decisions and are a moral

mvtoro

Sep 9, 11:12am

...you're on an island by yourself, bud. Enjoy it

Sep 9, 11:48am

Yup. My island is boring. Your island of CB Post Scientology sounds amazing! Miserable, maybe, but the power of being

mvtoro

Sep 9, 11:56am

lol, unhinged... but go on

Sep 9, 12:30pm

It really, really is. But who am I to question? Maybe you really are “THE GUY”:

mvtoro

Sep 9, 12:41pm

RE: Sharing factual data on our offense/Retzlaffs inefficiencies is not being a

Sep 9, 6:22am

Your assumptions are flawed

travelcoug

Sep 9, 6:54am

Nothing about the OP was mean or bullying. It was 100% factual and a

Sep 9, 7:11am

Overall tone of the board since Friday nigh. It has been a horrible place

travelcoug

Sep 9, 7:21am

It was incomplete and one-sided. That is what was wrong with it.

Cougarbib

Sep 9, 7:41am

RE: It was incomplete and one-sided. That is what was wrong with it.

imdocrob

Sep 9, 9:14am

Your post was ridiculous, his post was right. He wins you lose.

travelcoug

Sep 9, 9:38am

RE: Your post was ridiculous, his post was right. He wins you lose.

imdocrob

Sep 9, 9:46am

Again, if you can’t see them, it’s willful blindness, and no amount of logic

travelcoug

Sep 9, 9:51am

...imdocrob, his lack of any specifics tells us all we need to know...

Sep 9, 10:30am

OK I’ll give you two specifics

travelcoug

Sep 9, 10:47am

Kalani called out the offense and the special teams after the game

stansburycoug

Sep 9, 11:07am

RE: OK I’ll give you two specifics

imdocrob

Sep 9, 11:26am

...and my rebuttal

Sep 9, 11:33am

Ancient data is definitely cold fact - hard or not. Different teams - different

Cougarbib

Sep 9, 12:09pm

Speaking of heads in dark places. Special teams sucked. He never mentioned

Cougarbib

Sep 9, 12:00pm

RE: Speaking of heads in dark places. Special teams sucked. He never mentioned

imdocrob

Sep 9, 1:20pm

Nice pivot. OP was incomplete. I recommend u watch Trevor Matich

Cougarbib

Sep 9, 7:49pm

RE: Nice pivot. OP was incomplete. I recommend u watch Trevor Matich

imdocrob

Sep 9, 9:06pm

I gave u some reference material from 2 people u probably respect. If u can’t

Cougarbib

Sep 10, 12:47am

RE: I gave u some reference material from 2 people u probably respect. If u

imdocrob

Sep 10, 7:42am

They are far less qualified, but u go with whom you want. BTW, both guys were

Cougarbib

Sep 10, 9:00am

RE: They are far less qualified, but u go with whom you want. BTW, both guys

imdocrob

Sep 10, 11:35am

So u didn’t listen to him even though I told u he was critical of the offense -

Cougarbib

Sep 10, 1:37pm

One more turnover by Jake is my tipping point.

IdahoCoug

Sep 8, 11:19pm

When's the last time he didn't turn the ball over in a game? I think the bigger

MaximusMeridius

Sep 8, 11:23pm

Just win, baby! With Jake, Gerry, or whoever.

IdahoCoug

Sep 8, 11:26pm

I have no doubt that Jake is going to look great against Wyoming

MaximusMeridius

Sep 8, 11:30pm

That's why I extended the short leash for 3 games.

IdahoCoug

Sep 8, 11:35pm

Then fix the running game. RB was a bigger issue than QB. Adjustments in play

Cougarbib

Sep 9, 7:44am

And then what? We go into the gauntlet of Big 12 play where the competition goes

Sep 9, 7:19am

He's right. If we don't whine about it on CB, the coaches will do nothing about

Sep 9, 7:25am

These types of comments are hilarious

MaximusMeridius

Sep 9, 8:54am

You should probably read the post I responded to. And to be clear I've

Sep 9, 9:17am

Make sure to watch Fox and MSNBC, so u are aware of all of the things MS

Cougarbib

Sep 9, 12:28pm

I have politics turned off for a reason. Keep it there please.

Sep 9, 2:39pm

U do realize you brought up Fox News and being a conservative? Do u?

Cougarbib

Sep 9, 7:50pm

I think you can see the difference between my post and yours. Don't you?

Sep 9, 8:48pm

Yes. Mine was more complete and honest. Yours was a cleverly disguised pitch

Cougarbib

Sep 10, 12:49am

Depth caused the losing streak. What do you think they should have fixed

Cougarbib

Sep 9, 7:51am

Well then, I guess you're going to get tipped.

DeepCCoug

Sep 9, 6:19am

3 turnoverless games is your standard?

Sep 9, 6:25am

I fully agree that you would probably overreact like that.

Cougarbib

Sep 9, 7:42am

And Arod and Kalani are at fault for being so short-sighted thinking we had

Forbidden Fruit

Sep 8, 11:25pm

Well said. Unfortunately much of CB doesn’t want to hear this.

Lifi

Sep 8, 11:32pm

I want to hear it, but we’ve heard it a hundred times in the last 2 days…

BYUCLA

Sep 9, 12:28am

Why is that unfortunate? Just let everyone have their opinion.

ochobeeguy

Sep 9, 3:56pm

AND Sitake has a boring, terrible offensive style. He has abandoned BYU's roots.

bluefish

Sep 8, 11:52pm

I don’t think it’s true that who ever our QB is will be a game manager…

icecougar

Sep 9, 12:24am

Yes. 1). Our defense is much improved. 2) Our QB1 isn't

icecougar

Sep 9, 2:01am

They had an entire offseason and fall camp, yet he is still turnover prone.

bald man

Sep 9, 4:59am

You are right. No other teams make turn overs. Just us. Bald man is wise

travelcoug

Sep 9, 6:57am

That is a rude response. Not to mention deaf to the situation.

bald man

Sep 9, 9:47am

Exactly how I feel. Well said.

bythenumbers

Sep 9, 6:09am

I only see SEVEN "3 and outs"

cambo

Sep 9, 6:55am

Amen. I seriously can’t stand the polyannas here that make sure we are joyful

Idacoug

Sep 9, 7:09am

🤣 You are quite the peach

OldFogey

Sep 9, 7:30am

I was shocked at how often BYU kept trying to force the ball to the RB's

BYU Fan

Sep 9, 7:21am

I'm hoping Arod flips the script and uses the short and intermediate pass game

BYUfannonLDS

Sep 9, 7:36am

If you can’t run the ball, nothing else works due to being easy to defend a

Cougarbib

Sep 9, 8:00am

They can use short passes and spread the defense out.

BYUfannonLDS

Sep 9, 8:30am

Adjustments ARod made late - due to RB 1 and 2 being dinged, won the game. He

Cougarbib

Sep 9, 8:39am

I would like to upgrade your 'probably' to 'absolutely'

OldFogey

Sep 9, 8:45am

I have been saying the LJ Martin take since start of Fall camp. He is the

Cougs2012

Sep 9, 7:23am

U forgot to mention positives on Retzlaff and negatives on ST. At least u didn’t

Cougarbib

Sep 9, 7:38am

What’s weird is all of our backs averaged 4 ypc

Sep 9, 8:13am

90% of us are in this exact camp. Whats the issue?

Haysom Till

Sep 9, 8:25am

This is pretty much where I've decided to be until the end of the season.

BlueFever

Sep 9, 8:27am

How bad were his TOs in JC?

Dr MoBYU

Sep 9, 9:19am

RE: How bad were his TOs in JC?

imdocrob

Sep 9, 9:31am

If LJ is out for an extended period, I think GB is the better option at QB

Accipiter

Sep 9, 10:45am

I think LJ's injury is the strongest argument to put in GBo

MaximusMeridius

Sep 9, 10:50am

That kind of depends whether GB shoulder is ready to be lowered to give crushing

Cougarbib

Sep 9, 12:31pm

Great post. I think that everyone is happy that we have 2 wins.

ochobeeguy

Sep 9, 3:49pm

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