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Aug 2, 2024
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arcawley

Bio page: arcawley
Joined: Apr 14, 2020
Last login: Sep 9, 2024
Total posts: 1,273 (1 FO)

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Messages

Author

Time

Without game under his belt, how did KY out recruit and sell byu better than MP?

MajorZeus

Aug 2, 5:58pm

I think 3 reasons.

Aug 2, 5:59pm

Follow up. Why didn’t MP have these nice shiny things?

MajorZeus

Aug 2, 6:07pm

Admin didn’t believe he was the long term future of the program

CycloneCoug

Aug 2, 6:12pm

*And higher profile donors

RootieBoy

Aug 2, 6:40pm

This plus other things. Pope wanted to control the money. BYU wanted to control

Frankfromtheballpark

Aug 2, 6:41pm

Kevin Young has a clear vision and a way to see it through. People bought in

44C

Aug 2, 6:45pm

He always had one foot out the door?

Indy Coug

Aug 2, 6:12pm

Why do you think a guy that did this has one foot out the door?

Ojiisan

Aug 2, 6:18pm

President Reese might be more influential than Kevin Young.

Aug 2, 6:32pm

NIL changed/became safer for BYU and Pope leaving scared some people into seeing

gwalker

Aug 2, 7:15pm

Which is not to say I don’t appreciate Kevin Young and what he is doing.

gwalker

Aug 2, 7:16pm

Timing. He did a lot to lay the foundation…

icecougar

Aug 3, 7:23pm

You have them in the opposite order though

fulano

Aug 2, 7:16pm

Those three things are not the diagnosis they are the symptoms

Blue2thebone

Aug 2, 8:30pm

$$$

arcawley

Aug 2, 6:02pm

This takes nothing at all away from KY, but it’s 60%+ because of money

CycloneCoug

Aug 2, 6:05pm

I actually think it is more to do with him and his staff. They have money, but

Cougar TD

Aug 2, 6:13pm

You’re fooling yourself if you don’t think $$$ is the main driver

Aug 4, 10:02pm

You’re fooling yourself if you don’t think KY is responsible for the uptick in $

GlutealGuy

Aug 4, 10:10pm

He shares a small slice, but this is mainly from Pres. Reese and down

Aug 4, 10:32pm

Yeah... I've talked to enough people to know it isn't just money

Cougar TD

Aug 4, 10:51pm

Me too

Aug 4, 11:10pm

Money absolutely factors into it. But this staff is playing a much bigger part

Cougar TD

Aug 4, 11:16pm

I never said the staff wasn’t playing a factor into all this

Aug 4, 11:21pm

Every big school has money.

idcougarfan

Aug 2, 6:30pm

Yes that’s why they get big recruits

JoeExotic

Aug 2, 6:36pm

How did we get Igor Damon over Arkansas?

Blue2thebone

Aug 2, 8:32pm

$$$$$$$$

Aug 4, 10:00pm

And the reason it doesn’t take anything away from KY is because the reason that is money is because of KY

Blue2thebone

Aug 2, 8:31pm

He’s doing great things, but I think that’s way too simple an explanation.

gwalker

Aug 2, 8:55pm

That’s just it….you’re putting the cart before the horse…

icecougar

Aug 3, 7:32pm

Financiers. It wasn't just willingness, either. It was the BOT looking the other way. FINALLY.

SinkingQuffa

Aug 2, 6:09pm

What do you mean BOT looking the other way?

VinnyBYU

Aug 2, 8:09pm

By allowing financiers to do — what they haven't been allowed to do in the past.

SinkingQuffa

Aug 2, 8:19pm

You’ve usually got pretty good takes, but this isn’t one of them

Blue2thebone

Aug 2, 8:34pm

I’m not being argumentative- truly trying to understand this point

VinnyBYU

Aug 2, 9:09pm

Yeah, their hands were tied in the specifics. Pope complained of the lack of freedom & transparency.

SinkingQuffa

Aug 2, 9:55pm

This has been discussed before on CB. Donors weren’t allowed to earmark…

icecougar

Aug 3, 7:38pm

To imagine what could be, unburdened by what has been

icecougar

Aug 3, 7:33pm

Don't you dare put that on me!!

SinkingQuffa

Aug 6, 11:55am

Pure fantasy. Very little truth in this post

Blue2thebone

Aug 2, 10:54pm

His ability to sell a vision to NIL donors/ admin carried over to recruits

GlutealGuy

Aug 2, 6:11pm

Amen

44C

Aug 2, 7:28pm

Just what Blue said yesterday

44C

Aug 2, 7:47pm

You couldn’t scrub that cats video from the Internet

Blue2thebone

Aug 2, 7:39pm

A Tale of Two Visions

44C

Aug 2, 7:50pm

Thought that was a lil overboard gay at the time. But maybe not?

SinkingQuffa

Aug 2, 8:40pm

Kevin Young is awesome and we are fortunate to have him but it seems obvious

Rhubarb

Aug 2, 6:11pm

What you say is totally possible. Probably partially correct.

Blue2thebone

Aug 2, 8:38pm

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