I think the U as a program was a good partner with the P12. But the key is $. If

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Jul 16, 2024
9:57:03am

SwampyCoug Contributor

FSU doesn't add enough money, certainly the U doesn't either. Not smack. Just fact.

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SwampyCoug

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From McMurphy…FSU unlikely to join Big Ten or SEC:

rainorsnow

Jul 16, 7:13am

The reason really ends at "doesn't make financial sense." Everything else is

Corn Pop

Jul 16, 7:16am

But Utah does…

Charles Darwin

Jul 16, 7:24am

The yewts have told us repeatedly as 2x RB loser...Invite coming soon!

BlueKarma

Jul 16, 8:27am

Yeah, but they're great partners. Heard Stanford's scheduled for surgery to remove some red lips from their rear.

SinkingQuffa

Jul 16, 1:53pm

Spock: Fascinating

TNT

Jul 16, 7:18am

Some thought FSU to the Big12 was crazy talk

CougarCanuck76

Jul 16, 7:20am

The exact same.

TCuz

Jul 16, 7:22am

Bookmarked

CougarCanuck76

Jul 16, 7:24am

I still think it's unlikely, but I see the chances aren't 0% any more

thewaterboy

Jul 16, 7:31am

They have had third party talks with the Big12

CougarCanuck76

Jul 16, 7:54am

Would love it, but I'm not getting my hopes up at this point.

thewaterboy

Jul 16, 8:12am

That basically makes the Big 12 a lock then right?

puntersarepeople

Jul 16, 7:20am

2036 is forever away though. By then the NBA could be a good product

TNT

Jul 16, 7:21am

How far is 2027?

CougarCanuck76

Jul 16, 7:27am

Far

TNT

Jul 16, 7:28am

Reincarnated David Stern would only be 16 years old at that time, though.

squidmark

Jul 16, 9:34am

Or they leverage the big 12 news for an uneven ACC deal

GlutealGuy

Jul 16, 7:28am

The ACC is currently begging these two to accept an uneven deal with the ACC

CougarCanuck76

Jul 16, 7:56am

Explain how they don’t make financial sense but the Minnesota Gophers do.

Yukon

Jul 16, 7:22am

The Gophers aren't asking to get in.

Corn Pop

Jul 16, 7:23am

Gophers are everywhere. Seminoles not so much

TNT

Jul 16, 7:23am

Adding vs replacing

BYUheaven

Jul 16, 7:24am

Not in the next round of tv negotiations.

Yukon

Jul 16, 7:29am

*Golden Gophers. It's the gold that makes them so valuable.

foofcoug

Jul 16, 7:25am

With nowhere else to go, they have no leverage

deliciousmocha

Jul 16, 7:26am

Never under any circumstances should you have a conference with unequal base

Mitty

Jul 16, 12:09pm

They always have the leverage of the existing ACC

krindorr

Jul 16, 2:02pm

From McMurphy’s article 😂:

rainorsnow

Jul 16, 7:28am

Humble pie has a sweet aftertaste once you get past the bitter part. 😄😄😄😄😄

NOCAL_YFAN

Jul 16, 7:37am

I kind of like that the B12 has a chip on their shoulder.

Benfica1

Jul 16, 8:48am

There's one major difference there

krindorr

Jul 16, 9:45am

Even if SEC/B1G want either, this is probably good messaging legally

SlyCoug

Jul 16, 7:29am

The article goes on in a lot of detail ...

Art Director

Jul 16, 7:32am

Nothing would be better than the BIG saying Utah obviously isn’t a team player

GlutealGuy

Jul 16, 7:35am

Utah was the definition of a team player. They did whatever was asked

Medute

Jul 16, 8:54am

Exactly, it is most of their fan base that is considered toxic.

Q-grr

Jul 16, 9:41am

I think the U as a program was a good partner with the P12. But the key is $. If

SwampyCoug

Jul 16, 9:57am

This is correct, if FSU doesn't add enough value then Utah is a pipe dream.

Atmospheric_Cougar

Jul 16, 10:06am

SLC is a growing and young market

Medute

Jul 16, 11:30am

It is multifaceted but the $ is the deciding factor. Who brings the viewers.

SwampyCoug

Jul 16, 1:15pm

Yes. But they might use $ as the excuse to not take FSU

Medute

Jul 16, 1:56pm

All cute and fun things to think about. But in the end only $$$ matters. Sorry

Atmospheric_Cougar

Jul 16, 2:34pm

Ok great PAC team player…. garbage B12 team player=

Pretorian

Jul 16, 1:08pm

The U is so far a horrific B12 partner.

SwampyCoug

Jul 16, 1:16pm

Why? Because some fans posted stuff on X?

Medute

Jul 16, 2:00pm

This is largely true; conferences care less about fans and more about administrators

krindorr

Jul 16, 2:04pm

You said yourself the U held out the longest. So, the rest were willing to come

SwampyCoug

Jul 16, 3:45pm

That’s not how I look at it at all

Medute

Jul 16, 4:17pm

Here's a test of your credibility and the U's feigned loyalty. Are you saying if

SwampyCoug

Jul 16, 5:20pm

I think the U would have tried to keep the PAC together

Medute

Jul 16, 6:02pm

There's no way the U would have said no. And they should have said yes if

SwampyCoug

Jul 16, 6:19pm

“My perfect outcome for all of this is for Utah to join up with the B1G

Medute

Jul 16, 6:48pm

Once the PAC died the loyalty should shift it it was worth anything… it didn’t

Pretorian

Jul 17, 12:17pm

Nah, I love our fans. It’s like defending siblings

Medute

Jul 17, 3:35pm

At least you own it

Pretorian

Jul 17, 3:51pm

Hidden in there is the real reason. We know ESPN pulls the strings

Medute

Jul 16, 8:55am

Any chance the B1G ever kicks out Nebraska due to not being AAU?

thewaterboy

Jul 16, 7:34am

No chance.

Conan

Jul 16, 7:37am

That's too bad. They could have been a nice add as well and way to entice FSU

thewaterboy

Jul 16, 7:41am

FSU has been an Independent before. Maybe they go back to that.

BlueFever

Jul 16, 7:39am

B1G/SEC: “FSU is too disruptive as a conference member.” Also B1G/SEC:….

NOCAL_YFAN

Jul 16, 7:41am

Utah when seeing the B1G doent like disruptive partners.

Longseason

Jul 16, 7:46am

Utah fans don’t factor. Utah the school and program are good partners.

CallSign

Jul 16, 8:19am

Utah destroyed the P12

Longseason

Jul 16, 8:26am

“Good” and “competent” can be different things.

flyonawall

Jul 16, 11:18am

Incompetency can be painted across the entire P12. Who held the supreme power is

CallSign

Jul 16, 12:05pm

Utah led the way. Completely overestimated value and destroyed negotiations

Unibro

Jul 16, 2:56pm

Wow, Utah had that much sway? Nah, this is CB narrative.

CallSign

Jul 17, 11:58am

FSU's been a disruptive partner? ACC, Big Ten, Pac 12 Alliance ...

KCFan85

Jul 16, 7:53am

Also FSU to their lawyers when they find out they need the whole ACC to collapse

SlyCoug

Jul 16, 8:18am

Big 12:

SJS

Jul 16, 8:23am

Sorry if pointed out but "& ACC survives" is an important phrase.

SwampyCoug

Jul 16, 10:00am

Disruptive Partner, haha, pretty funny they say that

Dr T-bone

Jul 16, 10:22am

For now it doesn't make financial sense. The age of big TV contracts

tamasiaina

Jul 16, 11:28am

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