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Feb 19, 2024
12:42:07pm

Coug Texan

You are taking RN whole career and comparing it to 4 games

This is a bad comparison to make... if at the end of a full season of play, Retzlaff has those numbers, then it would be a valid criticism and comparison. Nelson had nearly a full season of playing time before transferring to BYU... Retzlaff started in week 8 of the season and played our toughest part of the schedule.

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For those that don't have Cougconnect, you need to get yourself an account, good article on the QB situation...

Coug Texan

Feb 19, 10:12am

As long as he stops chucking the ball into the dirt 5 feet in front of the receiver, I’m on board with Retzlaff.

specsauce

Feb 19, 10:14am

He also had repeated issues with the mess point on the zone read handoffs

I'mBatman

Feb 19, 12:11pm

Mess point or Mesh point? I guess leave it as Mess point in this case.

Cougarbib

Feb 19, 4:23pm

Not Bohanon?

RGGeemer

Feb 19, 10:20am

RE: Not Bohanon?

Coug

Feb 19, 10:28am

Proven FBS QB should get all the benefit of the doubt over a likely non-D1 QB

byuTX

Feb 19, 11:36am

If it’s no Bohanon I’ll be surprised

Pretorian

Feb 19, 12:16pm

Bohanon will be 3rd string at best is my prediction

Coug

Feb 19, 12:22pm

I hope you’re right but really? Was he a PWO or something?

Pretorian

Feb 19, 1:18pm

That's the rumor but not confirmed.

Coug

Feb 19, 1:22pm

PWO doesn’t mean anything with NIL

puntersarepeople

Feb 19, 1:30pm

I love Bohanon's scrambling ability. And he throws a pretty good pass also.

Feb 19, 2:58pm

He's a wildcard, knows the O. Knee OK? Could be the starter. We'll see....

Hawk in the 303

Feb 19, 10:37am

He doesn't know the offense... I know that's a thing to say...

Coug

Feb 19, 10:38am

Knee... I think you mean shoulder.

Feb 19, 11:23am

Even more of an unknown....

Hawk in the 303

Feb 19, 2:08pm

He’s also a poor man’s RN

I'mBatman

Feb 19, 12:24pm

You are taking RN whole career and comparing it to 4 games

Coug

Feb 19, 12:42pm

Sorry I’m Team Jake on this one

Cooouuugs

Feb 19, 2:56pm

I'm down for Retzlaff starting. Experience tells us that experience with the

AF_Puma

Feb 19, 10:22am

That is concerning.....JR was not good.

kansascougar

Feb 19, 10:25am

Most QB's thrown into that situation wouldn't have looked much better

Coug

Feb 19, 10:27am

Don't disagree. He is like Riley Nelson--he can make plays with his feet

kansascougar

Feb 19, 10:30am

But with a passer rating 40 points lower than Nelson 🙁

byuTX

Feb 19, 11:30am

Poor man Riley Nelson.

kansascougar

Feb 19, 12:08pm

Not even in the same zip code as a poor man's RN

byuTX

Feb 19, 12:09pm

Hard to evaluate Slovis or Retzlaff with a O-line that couldn't stop a nosebleed

BYUlv

Feb 19, 10:56am

Pass protection was good (32nd out of 133 FBS teams). Run blocking was bad

kansascougar

Feb 19, 11:07am

The offense in general wasn’t good but he looked much better than KS

Bobmarleyjr

Feb 19, 12:17pm

He showed flashes of being good. Hopefully he can get better and be more

thewaterboy

Feb 19, 10:27am

He faced the 2 best pass efficiency defenses in the conference...

Coug

Feb 19, 10:32am

The OSU game is a little misleading. He did play ok in first half, but 2nd half

NewBYUfannonLDS

Feb 19, 11:44am

He actually made some plays vs ISU as it went on but we gave upr

puntersarepeople

Feb 19, 1:04pm

I think you're exaggerating that someone needs to blow away the competition to

pinolero

Feb 19, 10:33am

he made sooo many mistakes that had nothing to do with the competition.

claw

Feb 19, 10:44am

Missing wide open receivers

Feb 19, 10:52am

You need live reps to work on these items. Repetition can fix a lot of it.

Feb 19, 11:25am

Again, his first start was against West Virginia at West Virginia in week 8 of the season...

Coug

Feb 19, 11:34am

This is true. Especially so if you're a bad QB

byuTX

Feb 19, 11:37am

The mistakes can be fixed. The pick six was lack of experience, the fumble

NewBYUfannonLDS

Feb 19, 12:03pm

To be honest I am not sure any of the QB's on our roster can help this offense.

Nagurski

Feb 19, 10:51am

I hate that this is even a topic of discussion

AltTabbins

Feb 19, 11:14am

Only if we had a 4* in the pipeline a few years ago who was stepping up

Pretorian

Feb 19, 12:22pm

If that's true people also need to get used to the idea of going 3-9. He's got a passer rating 10 points below Heaps 🙁

byuTX

Feb 19, 11:27am

If our only win is @u, I could lol with that.

Cougarbib

Feb 19, 11:41am

sadly that goes in the certain loss column. Bad team and bad coaching aren't going to stand a chance.

byuTX

Feb 19, 11:42am

Yep. The only positive from Retzlaff starting would be A-Rod getting canned.

fredgarvin

Feb 19, 2:19pm

With sitake to follow after a dismal 2025

byuTX

Feb 19, 4:10pm

If Kalani and A-Rod are hitching their job wagon to Retzlaff… they’re digging

Cougar86

Feb 19, 11:40am

Retzlaf moved the ball better than Slovis. It was the turnovers that killed us

rbr

Feb 19, 11:45am

Not sure that's true. JR had 80 fewer passing yards per game and more than a yard less per attempt or per completion.

byuTX

Feb 19, 11:50am

Offense certainly ran better, Retzlaff opened up the run game.

RGGeemer

Feb 19, 12:01pm

We jumped in rushing yardage while dropping more in passing yardage. Overall, a 10 yard drop and 0-4 finish

byuTX

Feb 19, 12:09pm

RE: Not sure that's true. JR had 80 fewer passing yards per game and more than a

NewBYUfannonLDS

Feb 19, 12:09pm

Overall a 10 yards per game drop

byuTX

Feb 19, 12:10pm

QBs get hurt in AROD's O so we will see QB2 start one or more games.

VB2

Feb 19, 11:48am

I will add that Retlaff has better numbers than Sol Jay, Koy, Jr., Connover and Jackson Brown. So it could be worse

byuTX

Feb 19, 11:52am

I actually think JR can be better than Greene. Greene has had the luxury of

NewBYUfannonLDS

Feb 19, 12:13pm

retzlaff was injured until halfway through the season so missed fall camp plus

cougrrrr

Feb 19, 12:14pm

Retzlaff will lead us to the promised land (championship).

rmsenior

Feb 19, 12:26pm

I think Retzlaff will greatly improve. Championship (some TIC?). I believe in

DawgHaus

Feb 19, 1:22pm

This was a play on Moses and Retzlaff's religion, half serious.

rmsenior

Feb 19, 3:08pm

If he’s the starter he won’t win enough Big12 games over the course of his entire career needed to win a title. I’d say

byuTX

Feb 19, 4:12pm

Not hating on Retzlaff...but Greene's 2022 was closer to Greene's 2023 than to Retzlaff last year

krindorr

Feb 19, 8:30pm

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