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Dec 5, 2023
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pspcres
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Will might have started at BYU! if you add his red shirt year, he was
on the team for four. Jake Heaps played two years at BYU. Never any Honor Code issues. transfer was all about trying to find playing time elsewhere.
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A thread of LDS recruits over the years that didn’t choose BYU that might have
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 7:55am
Jake Murphy was a BYU commit IIRC
BYU Statsman
12/5/23 7:58am
If I remember correctly he wanted to be at byu, but we didn’t have a scholarship
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 8:06am
Yeah that’s how I remember it
BYU Statsman
12/5/23 8:07am
He came home early and we didn’t have a scholarship available
molodyets
12/5/23 8:09am
Because he came home early from his mission.
AF_Puma
12/5/23 8:09am
Committed, signed with byu but came home from his mission early and he and dale
1984coug
12/5/23 8:16am
You could add Uona Kaveinga to your list
BYU Statsman
12/5/23 8:06am
Uona would be like a Puka or Kingsley (...and maaaaaybe Vaki?)
Das_Countach
12/5/23 10:11am
I won't even look at this list. Too painful.
Lifer
12/5/23 8:06am
I wish the coaches would to see what might have been if we had put in the effort
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 8:13am
That’s some real revisionist history
molodyets
12/5/23 8:19am
How do you know they didn't put in the effort? You are assuming
Canusa
12/5/23 8:20am
It’s a complete assumption. How many of those do you know the story to? Who was
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 8:35am
there's a perception from a lot of LDS families that BYU needs to bend over
molodyets
12/5/23 10:11am
Bet there’s a lot of truth to that.
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 10:40am
We were heavily pursuing Manti Teo and we thought we had him and then we didn't
AF_Puma
12/5/23 8:11am
Manti told me a few yrs ago that it was always USC for him and ND then stole him
Bluforever
12/5/23 12:13pm
you could say we were... catfished...?
4slyce
12/5/23 12:17pm
Manti told me at first is was Lennay Kekua who had him and then Ronaiah Naya
calvindyer
12/5/23 12:47pm
We heavily recruited Simi Fehoko. Tony Bergstrom was Utah from day 1
Reasonable1
12/5/23 8:16am
Multiple guys on that list were committed at one point and some even signed
molodyets
12/5/23 8:20am
I never said we didn’t. I followed the recruiting process with a lot of the
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 8:41am
You said "might have been ours had wee recruited them better or even offered"
molodyets
12/5/23 10:11am
Exactly “might”
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 10:42am
I see. The way you worded in OP reads like blaming the staff for them, not
molodyets
12/5/23 10:51am
My apologies, probably could have been worded better.
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 10:58am
For sure, it’s assumption. I don’t know who was offered and reached out to.
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 8:38am
RE: A thread of LDS recruits over the years that didn’t choose BYU that
1984coug
12/5/23 8:18am
Thanks, good reply
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 8:42am
It's a long list, but part of that is because it goes back to the 90's w/ Lavell
d-coug
12/5/23 8:19am
And because LaVell only had to truly compete with Utah for LDS recruits for the
Junior Deputy
12/5/23 8:34am
100% we know that he did, it wasn’t saying he never did. But I’m guessing he got
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 8:43am
Missing 1 important variable…interest in BYU
1manwolfpack
12/5/23 8:26am
That’s a great point, how many might have been if we were in the big 12 or
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 8:45am
Most of those were heavily recruited and simply chose to go elsewhere.
Junior Deputy
12/5/23 8:32am
Good to know! Thanks
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 9:11am
There could be a lot of reasons why LDS recruits don't pick BYU as much.
dut99002
12/5/23 8:41am
At least three of these kids signed with BYU. Logan Fano was on the team, then
Captain Stubing
12/5/23 9:44am
Bowles was like Pita…academics kept him out.
BYUHgrad
12/5/23 12:30pm
I thought Bolles was coming to the Y, then his wife wanted him to go to U?
Captain Stubing
12/5/23 12:56pm
Matt Gay was never recruited by BYU. You are missing...
Big-Q
12/5/23 9:47am
RE: Matt Gay was never recruited by BYU. You are missing...
Sport sci
12/5/23 11:05am
I thought Matt Gay was the one who reached out to Bronco, asking for an audition
lilpenny
12/5/23 11:44am
Bronco said on his podcast he never talked to Gay kickers.
calvindyer
12/5/23 12:48pm
That was Phillips. His sister played soccer here at the Y.
Captain Stubing
12/5/23 12:57pm
This is almost what happened. Bronco wasn't that cruel but basically told Matt thank you, but no thank you.
TheLoneCougar
12/5/23 4:10pm
RE: A thread of LDS recruits over the years that didn’t choose BYU that
TPcoug
12/5/23 10:23am
This has more to do with the culture of people now than coaches or rankings.
Pretorian
12/5/23 10:24am
Star Lotulelei should be on the list, although IIRC he committed to BYU but
BYUVA
12/5/23 10:27am
I'm pretty surprised at the efforts focused on players that BYU
Fido
12/5/23 10:42am
For sure. Not intended to feel like we failed on all.
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 11:01am
That is a good list. I wonder what the list looks for Notre Dame and Catholics
auzziecoug
12/5/23 10:50am
I would think a lot bigger.
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 11:01am
The list is oddly encouraging. And incomplete
cajuncoug
12/5/23 11:01am
Appreciate those thoughts.
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 11:02am
The Sewell boys. All 4 of them would've been starters in Provo
SV72 Sale
12/5/23 11:34am
Anyone have any idea what happened there? Did any have interest in byu?
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 11:51am
Here's the gist...the dad thinks they are bigger than BYU
stansburycoug
12/5/23 1:06pm
Nephi did not serve a mission. And I don't blame anyone for thinking they are
SV72 Sale
12/5/23 1:23pm
You're right, I remembered the xfer thing differently
stansburycoug
12/5/23 2:21pm
That’s too bad
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 4:21pm
RE: A thread of LDS recruits over the years that didn’t choose BYU that might
arizonacougarfan
12/5/23 12:20pm
Bunch of recognizable names there
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 12:41pm
But if Merlin can to byu we wouldn’t have the thor thunder punch….. good trade
Pretorian
12/6/23 12:06pm
This is the first I've ever heard of Adam Archuleta being LDS. If he is/was, he
robin
12/6/23 2:56pm
Thanks for effort pulling together. Thanks for NOT including Scott Mitchell. Several LDS QB's not included are:
CLCougar
12/5/23 12:34pm
You bet, thanks for those added to the list
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 12:42pm
Najee Harris probably needs to be on the list. According to my source.
MajorZeus
12/5/23 12:36pm
Another sad fact as we look at all these names, as well as those added below, is that the fans of the colleges they went
CLCougar
12/5/23 1:03pm
I made this list back in 2017, its missing a lot since then.
robin
12/5/23 1:09pm
The one consistent link between all of these is
Crowd Factor
12/5/23 1:24pm
WHO CARES!!! MY GOSH!! REALLY!!!
Huck
12/5/23 1:24pm
It makes you sad, does it not.
Big-Q
12/5/23 1:29pm
Add William Kava - had a solid four years at Washington playing OL
pspcres
12/5/23 3:14pm
He wasn’t a starter and played 3 years. He medically retired with a year left
Bobmarleyjr
12/5/23 3:24pm
Will might have started at BYU! if you add his red shirt year, he was
pspcres
12/5/23 3:34pm
Many of these guys had academic concerns. Haloti Ngata and his cousin Simi Moala
Bobmarleyjr
12/5/23 4:57pm
That’s not correct. Ngata was committed to BYU up until signing day when he
robin
12/5/23 6:09pm
Haloti was never coming to BYU and it didn't matter what BYU did or didn't do in the recruiting process.
TheLoneCougar
12/5/23 9:34pm
Todd Heaps was headed to BYU but then honor code. Tony Moeaki was almost at BYU
Bobmarleyjr
12/5/23 3:16pm
Don't know quite who you're referring to, but I don't think it was JHeaps.
d-coug
12/5/23 3:26pm
Maybe Todd Heaps. He was open about the honorcode.
Bullrider
12/5/23 3:50pm
Ooops meant Todd Heaps
Bobmarleyjr
12/5/23 4:58pm
Some on that list were not coming to BYU
Repete397
12/5/23 3:57pm
How many of these players couldn’t get a Bishop’s endorsement?
Bullrider
12/6/23 3:26pm
That’s a good question as well
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/6/23 10:40pm
adding Dallas LLoyd and Brandon Fanaika Stanford
Swishfromdeep3
12/6/23 9:09pm
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