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Sep 27, 2022
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kimdaddy35
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Jaren's passer rating against non P-5s this year is 186. I see why people don't talk to you because you aren't
smart enough to figure out simple concepts.
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RE: Hall is the best BYU QB since Detmer.
HairyCougar
9/27/22 2:16pm
RE: Hall is the best BYU QB since Detmer.
Soupie
9/27/22 2:18pm
You do realize he has played a tougher schedule than just about everyone above him, right? His rating is going to go
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 2:19pm
Have to remember that Hall has played way more P5 teams as a percentage of games
Dangerous
9/27/22 2:20pm
Detmer threw for 500 against Penn State in the Holiday Bowl, 400 yards against
HairyCougar
9/27/22 2:27pm
Not the same offense. Detmer also turned the ball over a lot more than Hall.
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 2:29pm
Can't you say the same about interceptions? They are down across the NCAA from
Polemic
9/27/22 2:32pm
I'd frame it as "offenses have gotten better at not turning the ball over"
Hotlanta
9/27/22 2:38pm
Detmer's TO's were due to risks he took and he admits it
HairyCougar
9/27/22 3:05pm
Yes, my point exactly.
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 2:38pm
Detmer took a few more risks but the offense was more explosive as a result
HairyCougar
9/27/22 2:33pm
Ty Detmer's team's point totals in games against P5s:
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 2:58pm
Like I said, not all P5's are created equal
HairyCougar
9/27/22 3:01pm
Now compare Jaren's #'s to Ty's versus G5's.
HairyCougar
9/27/22 3:01pm
Passer rating is not all that different. Yards will be very different as Hall's teams have been possession poor and
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 3:09pm
What? Detmer had QB ratings of 176, 156, and 169 his soph, jr, and sr years
HairyCougar
9/27/22 3:12pm
Not sure your point. But Hall's is worse overall because he plays more P5s than Detmer did. Not sure
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 3:25pm
Detmer's "P5s" were infinitely more difficult.
HairyCougar
9/27/22 4:28pm
Detmer had some great games against P5 teams, but also struggled mightily
Dangerous
9/27/22 2:31pm
Go watch those games. He had no time to throw.
HairyCougar
9/27/22 2:34pm
P5 doesn't really mean much. The G5 Utah and TCU teams that Max Hall faced were
Polemic
9/27/22 2:31pm
25 - 32 for 261 yards and 2 TD's is a lackluster game?
Dangerous
9/27/22 2:33pm
Hall played great against USF. Made one bad decision which was an incredible play by the defender.
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 2:33pm
All P5's are not created equal
HairyCougar
9/27/22 2:32pm
Did you just say that John Beck played well in the 13-16 loss to 6-6 Arizona?
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 2:37pm
BYU beat Oregon 38-8
HairyCougar
9/27/22 2:40pm
No, he did not say that. . . I am curious what you are saying though.
Zoobieman
9/27/22 2:41pm
Sorry I typed Oregon and meant Arizona.
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 3:06pm
Understood, thank you.
Zoobieman
9/27/22 3:41pm
Jaren had a 131 passer rating against Boise State last year. 123 against
HairyCougar
9/27/22 2:47pm
Yes, the numbers will favor Hall
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 3:06pm
Beck's QB rating sr year 169. Hall's right now 158.
HairyCougar
9/27/22 3:13pm
You do realize that after 4 games Beck's was much lower. Then he played the MWC.
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 3:22pm
So we stop after 4 games? Guy, you sound foolish
HairyCougar
9/27/22 4:29pm
Are you that obtuse? No we don't stop. That is why Hall's will continue to increase like it did last week.
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 4:31pm
It was 161 against South Florida which might be the worst defense he plays all y
HairyCougar
9/27/22 4:34pm
Jaren's passer rating against non P-5s this year is 186. I see why people don't talk to you because you aren't
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 4:48pm
2 game sample?
HairyCougar
9/27/22 6:43pm
Until he sees the middle of the field better
PortlandCoug
9/27/22 2:22pm
Correct
HairyCougar
9/27/22 2:27pm
Lol he had three 3rd down brilliant throws in 1 drive against Wyoming
cougfan03
9/27/22 3:01pm
"against Wyoming"
HairyCougar
9/27/22 3:16pm
I love that Wyoming has become a punchline, when BYU played them for generations
Hotlanta
9/27/22 4:53pm
When a guy is drafted is also anecdotal, as teams draft off needs
1984coug
9/27/22 2:24pm
Jaren Hall is amazing. . . But Zach went #2 in the draft for a reason
Zoobieman
9/27/22 2:39pm
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