RE: Hall is the best BYU QB since Detmer.

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Sep 27, 2022
2:18:18pm

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RE: Hall is the best BYU QB since Detmer.

HairyCougar

9/27/22 2:16pm

RE: Hall is the best BYU QB since Detmer.

Soupie

9/27/22 2:18pm

You do realize he has played a tougher schedule than just about everyone above him, right? His rating is going to go

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 2:19pm

Have to remember that Hall has played way more P5 teams as a percentage of games

Dangerous

9/27/22 2:20pm

Detmer threw for 500 against Penn State in the Holiday Bowl, 400 yards against

HairyCougar

9/27/22 2:27pm

Not the same offense. Detmer also turned the ball over a lot more than Hall.

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 2:29pm

Can't you say the same about interceptions? They are down across the NCAA from

Polemic

9/27/22 2:32pm

I'd frame it as "offenses have gotten better at not turning the ball over"

Hotlanta

9/27/22 2:38pm

Detmer's TO's were due to risks he took and he admits it

HairyCougar

9/27/22 3:05pm

Yes, my point exactly.

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 2:38pm

Detmer took a few more risks but the offense was more explosive as a result

HairyCougar

9/27/22 2:33pm

Ty Detmer's team's point totals in games against P5s:

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 2:58pm

Like I said, not all P5's are created equal

HairyCougar

9/27/22 3:01pm

Now compare Jaren's #'s to Ty's versus G5's.

HairyCougar

9/27/22 3:01pm

Passer rating is not all that different. Yards will be very different as Hall's teams have been possession poor and

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 3:09pm

What? Detmer had QB ratings of 176, 156, and 169 his soph, jr, and sr years

HairyCougar

9/27/22 3:12pm

Not sure your point. But Hall's is worse overall because he plays more P5s than Detmer did. Not sure

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 3:25pm

Detmer's "P5s" were infinitely more difficult.

HairyCougar

9/27/22 4:28pm

Detmer had some great games against P5 teams, but also struggled mightily

Dangerous

9/27/22 2:31pm

Go watch those games. He had no time to throw.

HairyCougar

9/27/22 2:34pm

P5 doesn't really mean much. The G5 Utah and TCU teams that Max Hall faced were

Polemic

9/27/22 2:31pm

25 - 32 for 261 yards and 2 TD's is a lackluster game?

Dangerous

9/27/22 2:33pm

Hall played great against USF. Made one bad decision which was an incredible play by the defender.

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 2:33pm

All P5's are not created equal

HairyCougar

9/27/22 2:32pm

Did you just say that John Beck played well in the 13-16 loss to 6-6 Arizona?

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 2:37pm

BYU beat Oregon 38-8

HairyCougar

9/27/22 2:40pm

No, he did not say that. . . I am curious what you are saying though.

Zoobieman

9/27/22 2:41pm

Sorry I typed Oregon and meant Arizona.

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 3:06pm

Understood, thank you.

Zoobieman

9/27/22 3:41pm

Jaren had a 131 passer rating against Boise State last year. 123 against

HairyCougar

9/27/22 2:47pm

Yes, the numbers will favor Hall

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 3:06pm

Beck's QB rating sr year 169. Hall's right now 158.

HairyCougar

9/27/22 3:13pm

You do realize that after 4 games Beck's was much lower. Then he played the MWC.

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 3:22pm

So we stop after 4 games? Guy, you sound foolish

HairyCougar

9/27/22 4:29pm

Are you that obtuse? No we don't stop. That is why Hall's will continue to increase like it did last week.

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 4:31pm

It was 161 against South Florida which might be the worst defense he plays all y

HairyCougar

9/27/22 4:34pm

Jaren's passer rating against non P-5s this year is 186. I see why people don't talk to you because you aren't

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 4:48pm

2 game sample?

HairyCougar

9/27/22 6:43pm

Until he sees the middle of the field better

PortlandCoug

9/27/22 2:22pm

Correct

HairyCougar

9/27/22 2:27pm

Lol he had three 3rd down brilliant throws in 1 drive against Wyoming

cougfan03

9/27/22 3:01pm

"against Wyoming"

HairyCougar

9/27/22 3:16pm

I love that Wyoming has become a punchline, when BYU played them for generations

Hotlanta

9/27/22 4:53pm

When a guy is drafted is also anecdotal, as teams draft off needs

1984coug

9/27/22 2:24pm

Jaren Hall is amazing. . . But Zach went #2 in the draft for a reason

Zoobieman

9/27/22 2:39pm

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