Ty Detmer's team's point totals in games against P5s:

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Sep 27, 2022
2:58:02pm

kimdaddy35 Future Lions Scout

Ty Detmer's team's point totals in games against P5s:

(Detmer threw a TD pass against Texas in mop up duty, but no I don't count that as that was Sean Covey's team at that point)

Miami 17 points (loss)
CU 20 points (win)
Washington St 41 points (loss)
Oregon 45 points (win)
Penn St 39 points (loss)
Miami 28 points (win)
Oregon 16 points (loss)
Texas A&M 14 points (loss)
Florida St 28 points (loss)
UCLA 23 points (loss)
Penn State 7 points (loss)
Iowa 13 points (tie)

So Detmer was 3-8-1 vs P5's averaging 24.25 points per game.

Should we do Hall next?

Arizona 24 points (win)
Utah 26 points (win)
Arizona St 27 points (win)
Baylor 24 points (loss)
Washington St 21 points (win)
Virginia 66 points (win)
USC 35 points (win)
Baylor 26 points (win)
Oregon 20 points (loss)

So Hall is 7-2 vs P5 with an average point total of 29.88 points per game. Not to mention Hall has far less possessions to work with than Detmer ever had and yet his offenses have been better.

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RE: Hall is the best BYU QB since Detmer.

HairyCougar

9/27/22 2:16pm

RE: Hall is the best BYU QB since Detmer.

Soupie

9/27/22 2:18pm

You do realize he has played a tougher schedule than just about everyone above him, right? His rating is going to go

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 2:19pm

Have to remember that Hall has played way more P5 teams as a percentage of games

Dangerous

9/27/22 2:20pm

Detmer threw for 500 against Penn State in the Holiday Bowl, 400 yards against

HairyCougar

9/27/22 2:27pm

Not the same offense. Detmer also turned the ball over a lot more than Hall.

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 2:29pm

Can't you say the same about interceptions? They are down across the NCAA from

Polemic

9/27/22 2:32pm

I'd frame it as "offenses have gotten better at not turning the ball over"

Hotlanta

9/27/22 2:38pm

Detmer's TO's were due to risks he took and he admits it

HairyCougar

9/27/22 3:05pm

Yes, my point exactly.

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 2:38pm

Detmer took a few more risks but the offense was more explosive as a result

HairyCougar

9/27/22 2:33pm

Ty Detmer's team's point totals in games against P5s:

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 2:58pm

Like I said, not all P5's are created equal

HairyCougar

9/27/22 3:01pm

Now compare Jaren's #'s to Ty's versus G5's.

HairyCougar

9/27/22 3:01pm

Passer rating is not all that different. Yards will be very different as Hall's teams have been possession poor and

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 3:09pm

What? Detmer had QB ratings of 176, 156, and 169 his soph, jr, and sr years

HairyCougar

9/27/22 3:12pm

Not sure your point. But Hall's is worse overall because he plays more P5s than Detmer did. Not sure

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 3:25pm

Detmer's "P5s" were infinitely more difficult.

HairyCougar

9/27/22 4:28pm

Detmer had some great games against P5 teams, but also struggled mightily

Dangerous

9/27/22 2:31pm

Go watch those games. He had no time to throw.

HairyCougar

9/27/22 2:34pm

P5 doesn't really mean much. The G5 Utah and TCU teams that Max Hall faced were

Polemic

9/27/22 2:31pm

25 - 32 for 261 yards and 2 TD's is a lackluster game?

Dangerous

9/27/22 2:33pm

Hall played great against USF. Made one bad decision which was an incredible play by the defender.

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 2:33pm

All P5's are not created equal

HairyCougar

9/27/22 2:32pm

Did you just say that John Beck played well in the 13-16 loss to 6-6 Arizona?

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 2:37pm

BYU beat Oregon 38-8

HairyCougar

9/27/22 2:40pm

No, he did not say that. . . I am curious what you are saying though.

Zoobieman

9/27/22 2:41pm

Sorry I typed Oregon and meant Arizona.

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 3:06pm

Understood, thank you.

Zoobieman

9/27/22 3:41pm

Jaren had a 131 passer rating against Boise State last year. 123 against

HairyCougar

9/27/22 2:47pm

Yes, the numbers will favor Hall

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 3:06pm

Beck's QB rating sr year 169. Hall's right now 158.

HairyCougar

9/27/22 3:13pm

You do realize that after 4 games Beck's was much lower. Then he played the MWC.

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 3:22pm

So we stop after 4 games? Guy, you sound foolish

HairyCougar

9/27/22 4:29pm

Are you that obtuse? No we don't stop. That is why Hall's will continue to increase like it did last week.

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 4:31pm

It was 161 against South Florida which might be the worst defense he plays all y

HairyCougar

9/27/22 4:34pm

Jaren's passer rating against non P-5s this year is 186. I see why people don't talk to you because you aren't

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 4:48pm

2 game sample?

HairyCougar

9/27/22 6:43pm

Until he sees the middle of the field better

9/27/22 2:22pm

Correct

HairyCougar

9/27/22 2:27pm

Lol he had three 3rd down brilliant throws in 1 drive against Wyoming

cougfan03

9/27/22 3:01pm

"against Wyoming"

HairyCougar

9/27/22 3:16pm

I love that Wyoming has become a punchline, when BYU played them for generations

Hotlanta

9/27/22 4:53pm

When a guy is drafted is also anecdotal, as teams draft off needs

1984coug

9/27/22 2:24pm

Jaren Hall is amazing. . . But Zach went #2 in the draft for a reason

Zoobieman

9/27/22 2:39pm

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