Because I choose to call them fake. Call them what you want, but they are not

Jan 14, 2021
2:39:13pm

Mitty All-American

traditional D1 powers (in the loosest sense of the word power). If it makes you feel better, do this analysis at a snapshot in time, say, 1980.

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The state of UT is kind of an outlier when it comes to D1 football schools.

Mitty

1/14/21 2:12pm

Why are you calling programs like Nevada, Southern Miss, or Arkansas St 'Fake'?

ZacSeljaas'Stache

1/14/21 2:16pm

I'm calling USU fake

Indy Coug

1/14/21 2:17pm

I'm calling you fake

Sea Chicken

1/14/21 2:17pm

You’re not real

gmoney7

1/14/21 2:18pm

He finally admits Indy’s his dupe!

Odysseus

1/14/21 2:19pm

I love Aggie Ice Cream

BYU Grounds

1/14/21 4:07pm

Because I choose to call them fake. Call them what you want, but they are not

Mitty

1/14/21 2:39pm

Then why does Utah State count as a 'real' one?

ZacSeljaas'Stache

1/14/21 2:46pm

I don't understand the question. By the definition, they qualify as NOT fake.

Mitty

1/14/21 2:50pm

When has USU been in the same conference with BYU, Utah, or Colorado?

El Jefe

1/14/21 4:23pm

Change your definition to “10+ years in D1” and run the numbers. And be honest

StalwartBraveTrue

1/14/21 4:49pm

USU football is worse than Nevada. Your formula is as biased towards USU as the CFP was to Iowa St.

unctoothman

1/14/21 5:11pm

Fake D1 schools?

Sea Chicken

1/14/21 2:16pm

Utah produces an oddly high number of D1 recruits because all the schools have

BYUMizzou

1/14/21 2:20pm

That’s an interesting point. Never thought about it that way.

TADOW

1/14/21 2:23pm

You need to take a better look at who these schools recruits..

TheLost

1/14/21 2:36pm

The other thing that will have a big effect is how school districts are handled

BYUMizzou

1/14/21 2:41pm

That's a good point that probably accounts for a percentage of the discrepancy.

Mitty

1/14/21 2:45pm

Where is the evidence to support utah having a high % of D1 recruits?

Fargo

1/14/21 5:00pm

Here is the map showing Utahs number of recruits.

TheLost

1/14/21 2:21pm

How is Montana up that far?

lightmann

1/14/21 2:38pm

A few surprising things on this map, to me.

Mitty

1/14/21 2:47pm

You can thank the Polynesians for that, sure as heck ain’t the Caucasian kids.

Diablo and Doc

1/14/21 4:26pm

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Odysseus

1/14/21 7:19pm

Lots of babies being born in Utah. More babies = more athletes.

zsmooth

1/14/21 2:32pm

CO has three D1 schools

ColoSpgs

1/14/21 2:36pm

Good point, I wasn't sure about AFA. Initially had considered them

Mitty

1/14/21 2:40pm

& 80% more population. That's the whole point.

RdF3

1/14/21 2:41pm

AZ also has three

TheLost

1/14/21 2:41pm

Per Wikipedia, just two.

Mitty

1/14/21 2:43pm

Weird.. since i've toured NAU's facilities. Somebody needs to tell the Big Sky.

TheLost

1/14/21 2:47pm

NAU is D1 but not FBS, original post was about FBS teams only

ZacSeljaas'Stache

1/14/21 2:48pm

He mentions FBS once.. He says 'Fake D1' (traditionally D2)

TheLost

1/14/21 2:51pm

Tell them what? You don't think they know they are 1-AA or whatever it's called?

Mitty

1/14/21 2:51pm

They are D1.. Maybe you want to change your rankings to P5 or not-P5.

TheLost

1/14/21 3:01pm

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RdF3

1/14/21 3:04pm

Read his posts.. what would be his Fake D1 then? What is traditional D2..

TheLost

1/14/21 3:08pm

If USU gets +1, so do Nevada, Southern Miss, Arkansas State, W. Kentucky...

Doogal McCougar

1/14/21 2:45pm

No, those are traditionally D2 and 1-AA AKA pre-FCS schools. That's why.

Mitty

1/14/21 2:54pm

So Nevada.. who beat a P5 Big10 team last year (2019)... is D2? OK..

TheLost

1/14/21 3:00pm

Pretty sure at least Nevada and Southern Miss are USU's equals or better.

Doogal McCougar

1/14/21 3:07pm

Being from Utah, Mitty naturally hears more about USU than Nevada/Southern Miss

krindorr

1/14/21 4:29pm

What school in NV earns your .5?

TheLost

1/14/21 2:45pm

Nevada & UNLV both get .25

BYU Fan

1/14/21 2:57pm

It would have to be .75.. since he gave NV 1.5

TheLost

1/14/21 2:58pm

Louisiana has 5 with a population of 4.65M, NC has 7 with population of 10M

AggieWeekendCougar

1/14/21 2:46pm

But OP will tell some of those are "fake," so he can make his point...

The Chelsea Dagger

1/14/21 4:31pm

Yeah, I don't see the point OP is trying to make. Not supported by facts.

Fargo

1/14/21 4:58pm

#7 in FBS/population

krindorr

1/14/21 3:26pm

Kindof sad that the only person presenting real data isn't getting thumbs up

AggieWeekendCougar

1/14/21 5:01pm

Similar to Air Force, did you leave BYU out of Utah because it is part of a

Bullrider

1/14/21 4:05pm

I think most people would only give USU .5; fans of P5 schools would probably

Fargo

1/14/21 4:56pm

Living in the Southeast, this is unfortunately absolutely true

krindorr

1/14/21 6:30pm

I'd imagine the state of Utah's prominence will continue to rise due to birth rt

Orem58thBall

1/14/21 5:59pm

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TrueBlue1

1/14/21 6:34pm

Would someone please redo this post with actual designations? It might be

AZcougLawyer

1/14/21 7:04pm

See above - link included

krindorr

1/14/21 7:15pm

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