I see your point but do disagree somewhat….

Nov 4, 2024
12:54:40pm

Vernon Dozier All-American

Most college fans are not giving 10% to their church. Many, BYU fans are. It’s easier to get donations when you are starting at 100% of income and not 90%.

Tightwad might not be the best word but discretionary income is lower for many for sure.

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Vernon Dozier

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macdizzle

Nov 4, 8:40am

Which means more $ from fans. We have good fans, but a lot are tightwads.

LSUcougar92

Nov 4, 8:42am

BYU still hasn’t had a full P5 budget yet. With full membership coming next year

Pepe

Nov 4, 8:48am

THIS!!!!!!

DazeofBlue

Nov 4, 10:31am

Any idea how much?

BYUfan92

Nov 4, 11:31am

RE: Any idea how much?

claw

Nov 4, 12:09pm

x 50

claw

Nov 4, 12:10pm

And think How much could we make from playoffs!

Dr MoBYU

Nov 4, 12:15pm

The type of money this requires doesn't come from the average tightwad fan

Schultz is back

Nov 4, 8:54am

I am so tired of this lie. BYU fans are no more tight wads than any others. We have sugar daddies and big donors just

BYU Grounds

Nov 4, 9:45am

Sure, we are doing fine. But if we want to hire 50 more people and update

LSUcougar92

Nov 4, 12:39pm

I see your point but do disagree somewhat….

Vernon Dozier

Nov 4, 12:54pm

RE: I see your point but do disagree somewhat….

PenrynCoug

Nov 4, 2:44pm

No one spends that much on alcohol unless they are an alcoholic.

beantownblue

Nov 4, 3:04pm

^^^this! That’s a lot of alxohol!

Vernon Dozier

Nov 4, 6:09pm

Why must it come from the fans? What about the bigger pay check from B12 and

Pretorian

Nov 4, 12:59pm

Just look at BB, a major shift within the last 8 mths in regards to coaches,

WIGGIN

Nov 4, 8:46am

Have you looked at the number of support staff that has been added in the last year?

kccougar

Nov 4, 8:48am

It's still very small compared to other P5s. We still need a bigger recruiting

wildlandfireguy

Nov 4, 8:49am

Yeah go compare it to others. It's in the bottom 50th percentile at best.

macdizzle

Nov 4, 8:52am

We need full shares first

puntersarepeople

Nov 4, 11:30am

Recruiting staff should decrease.

anonymous37

Nov 4, 1:28pm

I had a nephew who was a 4* recruit and I got to tag along with him for some

wildlandfireguy

Nov 4, 8:48am

Even UNLV has a high level football facility, on par with UCLA.

88Coug

Nov 4, 9:17am

I don't think so I have visited both. UCLA is absolutely amazing.

wildlandfireguy

Nov 4, 9:18am

So have I.

88Coug

Nov 4, 9:48am

If we make the playoffs, that will weigh more than anything else. Plus, when we

GMGlenn

Nov 4, 12:40pm

Do you mean committed and not “signed”? Its not the signing period.

Zach Morris

Nov 4, 8:48am

For a young man, when the school you are visiting is taking time to downgrade

EM_Puma

Nov 4, 8:49am

I would always ask a Chevy truck about a Ram truck, and vice versa.

Undefeated

Nov 4, 8:57am

Not so many option with trucks. I always ask sales people with many competitors

NYC and Japan

Nov 4, 9:36am

Also, I've had two extended family members as pretty big recruits, one chose BYU

Undefeated

Nov 4, 10:27am

I could be wrong, but unless you get in a discussion where the athlete is asking

EM_Puma

Nov 4, 1:19pm

The average BYU values 8-0 and fantastic student gameday experience

Threw and Through

Nov 4, 11:16am

So true. Everyone knows about Oregon facilities but Nebraska just opened a brand

Undefeated

Nov 4, 8:52am

WOW!!! Unbelievable facility

CoolB

Nov 4, 10:24am

That's horrifying.

coventry94

Nov 4, 10:47am

We already have. When we built our new facilities in 2003 that's what we did,

Undefeated

Nov 4, 11:14am

Yes, I thought ours were recent and not that bad. I guess a lot of time has

RoboKayne

Nov 4, 11:20am

Exactly...what is the appropriate depreciation rate for athletics facilities....10 years?

Cthack1

Nov 4, 11:25am

Maybe a remodel and a add-on?

Undefeated

Nov 4, 11:26am

I watched this oscillating between disgust, envy, awe, and fascination.

NumbersGuy

Nov 4, 12:20pm

It only cost $165million.

CMAC38

Nov 4, 10:48am

That is a steal of a deal. Our school district wants us to vote for a bond to

RoboKayne

Nov 4, 11:25am

They named the locker room after a coach they fired, even though he went 10-3 in

robin

Nov 4, 11:20am

Haha, yeah. If I were meaner, I would say, "how much more do they need to build

RoboKayne

Nov 4, 11:28am

Have you seen this before?

Undefeated

Nov 4, 3:39pm

Woah. 🤯 I almost committed to Nebraska on the spot!

ninja math

Nov 4, 12:35pm

If only TNT had been an athletic freak

TNT

Nov 4, 2:24pm

Time to upgrade despite what the “ours are just fine” crowd

Archaea

Nov 4, 9:02am

One time I implied that Colorado state had newer and nicer facilities than BYU.

Polecat

Nov 4, 9:13am

They absolutely do and it's not close.

macdizzle

Nov 4, 9:14am

Dang that is very nice. Hopefully there are plans in place for BYU to upgrade.

Polecat

Nov 4, 9:20am

Agreed. In the 1980s BYu had nice facilities

Archaea

Nov 4, 9:15am

We built new stuff in 2003 but just 21 years later they already pretty outa date

Undefeated

Nov 4, 9:19am

Every two decades you need to renovate facilities

Archaea

Nov 4, 12:03pm

True. True.

inertiaman

Nov 4, 10:28am

If that doesn't describe CB perfectly, I don't know what does

MaximusMeridius

Nov 4, 10:39am

Sad but true

Polecat

Nov 4, 1:42pm

Need new football facility and more staff. B12 money on the way.

88Coug

Nov 4, 9:19am

exactly this. BYU Admin will not spend any money they don't have. As the B12 money starts to roll in we will get improv

BYU Grounds

Nov 4, 9:42am

My guess is that we add more staff in the near future. We now have the money.

LifeLongLakerFan

Nov 4, 9:42am

If BYU keeps winning, the upgrades will come. Winning brings in more money for

Powerbait DPM

Nov 4, 9:58am

My guess is that this gets upgraded relatively quickly with the influx of cash coming with Conference affiliation AND

TheLoneCougar

Nov 4, 10:09am

On the other hand, most of those other programs are bleeding money and not

Mitty

Nov 4, 10:14am

BYU- Doing more with less. Others- Doing less with more.

DevilCougarDragon

Nov 4, 10:38am

These things are cyclical. BYU will build new facilities in the next decade. And

VACougMD

Nov 4, 10:41am

True, but we'll never build something like what Oregon or Nebraska has. Just not

LifeLongLakerFan

Nov 4, 11:22am

It seems like this is how BBall is really shining now--facilities, staff, etc.

CascadeBYUFan

Nov 4, 10:45am

Well, we've known this for decades now. Maybe with being in the

bald man

Nov 4, 11:08am

And yet we flipped a high-profile recruit from Oregon.

Rico

Nov 4, 11:37am

Thanks for sharing. Great insights.

nitestal

Nov 4, 11:39am

BYU a couple years ago was showing off spiffy SOA lockerrooms. Doesn't that

Forzaitalia

Nov 4, 12:04pm

it will take 10 years of P4 money then BYU will catch up. BYU doesn't have the

claw

Nov 4, 12:11pm

they should go into debt then

dixieutahbyuzag

Nov 4, 12:37pm

they need a new athletic center.

dixieutahbyuzag

Nov 4, 12:34pm

Facilities aren’t going to matter as much as NIL and player payment going forward. Fewer lazy rivers, barbershops, etc

byuTX

Nov 4, 1:09pm

BYU has great facilities. The Locker room is not 20 years old.

First-n-10

Nov 4, 1:13pm

I'm curious about shares. It's been mentioned in this post a couple of times

spidey24

Nov 4, 1:14pm

We will never be able to keep up with top program $$

El Paso Coug

Nov 4, 1:34pm

If only an organization worth $1T was associated with.

macdizzle

Nov 4, 1:45pm

I think the world is changing. NIL may put an end to this. Building a space city

RoboKayne

Nov 4, 3:00pm

We need to demo the SAB, Demo the Richards and rebuild.

EDthoracotomy

Nov 4, 1:42pm

This feedback is easier to ingest now than it would have been 1 year ago becsuse

Crowd Factor

Nov 4, 2:34pm

we will add as we become full share members

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