I know. Yet here we are with another expected loss according to the line makers and bettors. I'd say the chances are

Oct 1, 2024
2:32:12pm

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greater than 50% (not combined, greater than 50% chance in each game individually) that BYU beats both UA and OSU the next two games.

But whatever, the line ultimately only balances bets for and against. Ultimately meaningless. Will only add fuel to BYU's fire.

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Two guys on the Cyclone Fanatic podcast just predicted BYU 0-4 in next 4

CycloneCoug

Oct 1, 11:27am

Were your friends in the ISU student government in 2016?

Benfica1

Oct 1, 11:28am

Probably

Icelandic Cougar

Oct 1, 11:28am

That's not all that unreasonable...on the harsh side, but certainly possible.

NOCAL_YFAN

Oct 1, 11:29am

Anything >0% chance is possible. It’s not probable though.

mulletino

Oct 1, 11:32am

Well, Arizona is currently favored by 1.5 pts, Utah and UCF are likely to be

NOCAL_YFAN

Oct 1, 11:37am

We’ve beaten the spread, I believe, by an average of 17.4 pts per game.

mulletino

Oct 1, 11:41am

A fact oddsmakers are well aware of in the setting of the current odds.

NOCAL_YFAN

Oct 1, 11:47am

Yet each passing game they’re chosen to lose.

mulletino

Oct 1, 12:28pm

Yeah, but apparently they suck at predicting how this team will do.

mvtoro

Oct 1, 1:51pm

Technically they are not trying to predict the winner, they are trying to

here's to hoping

Oct 1, 6:39pm

Yes. The people betting and thereby controlling the spread apparently suck at predicting how this team will do. So when

mvtoro

Oct 2, 12:01am

You're really working hard to make the negative case. The odds makers don't

Jasbo

Oct 1, 4:57pm

The spreads don't get all set at the beginning of the year. Bettors have more

Tricky

Oct 1, 2:10pm

I know. Yet here we are with another expected loss according to the line makers and bettors. I'd say the chances are

mulletino

Oct 1, 2:32pm

Why would UCF be favored? They lost to CU and CU beat Baylor. We just beat

Blue for Life

Oct 1, 11:44am

We have to go to Florida to play UCF. Home field advantage & travel and the

NOCAL_YFAN

Oct 1, 12:01pm

Playing UCF in Orlando didn't seem to bother Colorado

slatecoug

Oct 1, 3:19pm

Well yeah, FPI does say we have a 5% chance of going 0-4 in the next 4 games . .

viper

Oct 1, 3:57pm

What chance did FPI give us to go 5-0 at start of the year? I don’t 0-4 in the

Cooouuugs

Oct 1, 4:15pm

FPI is a joke at the beginning of the season basing it on last year. Anyone

viper

Oct 1, 4:30pm

Fair enough, point conceded

Cooouuugs

Oct 1, 6:48pm

We ain’t losing to OK State at home. Have you seen them? They’re terrible.

andrewg3

Oct 1, 8:44pm

Understandable considering what ISU did to us last year

Huge Manatee

Oct 1, 11:32am

Such a pathetic game. Left w/ just a couple minutes left & apologized for not giving them a better game passed ISU fans.

Soupie

Oct 1, 12:46pm

What gripe would Iowa State fans have with BYU?

BYU Fan

Oct 1, 11:33am

Who says they have a gripe? Could be objective analysis.

YOHONOMOTO

Oct 1, 11:37am

He said that many of his Cyclone friends were BYU haters...

BYU Fan

Oct 1, 11:41am

oh got it. yeah that is weird.

YOHONOMOTO

Oct 1, 11:43am

Maybe they hate BYU for what we did to their basketball team last season

ldssdl

Oct 1, 11:44am

They thought BYU's bball team was a paper tiger last year as well, haha

Das_Countach

Oct 1, 2:05pm

Think they're just trying project their own desires to eliminate who they see as

BackPacker

Oct 1, 11:39am

This is probably a part of it

CycloneCoug

Oct 1, 11:54am

Iowa state was the loudest voice against BYU joining in 2016

CycloneCoug

Oct 1, 11:53am

A few loud voices in student government, where stupid voices are amplified.

HenderCoug

Oct 1, 3:41pm

I was on campus when whole student organizations held an anti-BYU rally

CycloneCoug

Oct 1, 4:16pm

This ☝️☝️ In my book they remain the Corn Yewts

Your Royal Blueness

Oct 1, 9:04pm

Religious bigotry

here's to hoping

Oct 1, 6:45pm

Isn’t paper tiger a term used for someone over-rated but can’t back it up?

MHOP

Oct 1, 11:36am

They’re projecting them to be a paper tiger

CycloneCoug

Oct 1, 11:54am

their point is we will be exposed as such going forward and that we only beat weak teams so far

byujag

Oct 1, 11:56am

and has the second highest strength of record in the country.

MaxxPower

Oct 1, 1:21pm

Is that for the whole season, or the first 5 games?

Tricky

Oct 1, 2:11pm

For the first 5 games. It grades how a team has performed relative to

MaxxPower

Oct 1, 2:24pm

Thanks - that's great to hear

Tricky

Oct 1, 3:40pm

I don't know how you could say that with how our defense has looked.

YOHONOMOTO

Oct 1, 11:36am

There's was no paper involved in BYU's trouncing of KSU or wins @ SMU & Baylor

Doogal McCougar

Oct 1, 11:37am

BYU is a good home team, I wonder how we do on the road

Projectoor

Oct 1, 12:02pm

Although we are 5-0, I also worry about dropping the next 4 games.

Boring

Oct 1, 12:43pm

RE: Although we are 5-0, I also worry about dropping the next 4 games.

APowerfulY

Oct 1, 3:06pm

We could go 0-4. I don't think we will, but we've lost 4 in a row before.

IronPotato

Oct 1, 12:52pm

5 percent chance if you believe FPI. 6 percent chance of winning them all.

bythenumbers

Oct 1, 1:30pm

We could go 0-4, 1-3, 2-2, 3-1, or 4-0

runningryan

Oct 1, 1:33pm

If I were yewt, I would say we could go 5-0 over our next 4 games.

Pangare

Oct 1, 3:28pm

Does anyone think we’ll have more than 8 wins?

stoils

Oct 1, 1:35pm

I do. I think 9. plus a potential bowl win. I see us winning Houston and Kansas

BYU-Ite

Oct 1, 1:53pm

ESPN is predicting 9.3 wins and that is where I am at, about 9 wins

Projectoor

Oct 1, 1:58pm

Pretty much every computer model has doubled the predicted wins to about 9

NYC and Japan

Oct 1, 2:22pm

This is what the BYU football team wants more people to doubt them

BulldogCoug79

Oct 1, 1:51pm

I seriously doubt that we lose at home to both Arizona and Oklahoma State.

WillsPitStop

Oct 1, 1:54pm

EVERY one of those 4 games are very lose-able. But we are HARDLY a paper tiger. We'll go 4-for-4 before we go 0-for-4.

SinkingQuffa

Oct 1, 1:55pm

Assuming independence, 6.3% chance going 4-0, 5.2% chance going 0-4

CycloneCoug

Oct 1, 2:20pm

Low expectations are good in this case - most teams play better a chip on their

Srg

Oct 1, 2:00pm

During the Sitake era, BYU football has the following win percentages by month:

BYUlv

Oct 1, 2:11pm

I'd be more worried about Baylor this Saturday. I don't think ISU survives.

Corn

Oct 1, 2:13pm

Here's the reality, BYU could lose every one of the next 4 games, however...

lbmango

Oct 1, 2:14pm

Odds are we go anywhere from 1-3 to 3-1 over our next 4 games.

jreid191

Oct 1, 2:14pm

Find me 2 guys from any podcast who didn't think we'd only have 4 wins total before the season started.....

AltTabbins

Oct 1, 2:37pm

If BYU is a paper tiger

Deeppost

Oct 1, 2:48pm

K-state looks better than Iowa IMO

SoBlueitHurts

Oct 1, 6:53pm

i know there are some great ISU fans, but in general only Utah fans rival them

Hawk Talons

Oct 1, 2:53pm

It's quite possible

dixieutahbyuzag

Oct 1, 2:53pm

Protestant Utes

JupiterJones

Oct 1, 3:06pm

We could go 0-4 over the next 4. But, it could be fun though …

APowerfulY

Oct 1, 3:07pm

"Dog eats own crap in yard."

AF'er

Oct 1, 3:21pm

Of course it's possible. BYU hasn't exactly over performed in October. Just hope they're not right & team is

Soupie

Oct 1, 3:36pm

To make that kind of prediction just shows they either dislike BYU or have no real knowledge of CFB

Knight-who-says-ni

Oct 1, 3:49pm

BYU could go 0-4 lol

Burton162

Oct 1, 3:51pm

You think they hate BYU now...wait until basketball season!

coot20

Oct 1, 3:52pm

Amen...by far most unfriendly fan base at BB tourney in KC this yr

TampaBlu

Oct 1, 4:12pm

I'm not too proud to admit that I'm glad we're not playing ISU in Ames, although

Japan Coug

Oct 1, 4:30pm

I think the home team would win that matchup. ISU in Ames or BYU in Provo

CycloneCoug

Oct 1, 5:07pm

They killed last year at LES. We were blown out 4 times….

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