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Oct 1, 2024
2:10:06pm

Tricky All-American

The spreads don't get all set at the beginning of the year. Bettors have more

data now then at the beginning of the season.

Clearly BYU is better than many people thought before the season started. But we've also had a great combination of solid execution, opponents' errors and some luck to get us to where we are right now. We've looked really good at times, and at other times have looked like we couldn't move the ball at all.

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Tricky

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Two guys on the Cyclone Fanatic podcast just predicted BYU 0-4 in next 4

CycloneCoug

11:27am

Were your friends in the ISU student government in 2016?

Benfica1

11:28am

Probably

Icelandic Cougar

11:28am

That's not all that unreasonable...on the harsh side, but certainly possible.

NOCAL_YFAN

11:29am

Anything >0% chance is possible. It’s not probable though.

mulletino

11:32am

Well, Arizona is currently favored by 1.5 pts, Utah and UCF are likely to be

NOCAL_YFAN

11:37am

We’ve beaten the spread, I believe, by an average of 17.4 pts per game.

mulletino

11:41am

A fact oddsmakers are well aware of in the setting of the current odds.

NOCAL_YFAN

11:47am

Yet each passing game they’re chosen to lose.

mulletino

12:28pm

Yeah, but apparently they suck at predicting how this team will do.

mvtoro

1:51pm

Technically they are not trying to predict the winner, they are trying to

here's to hoping

6:39pm

You're really working hard to make the negative case. The odds makers don't

Jasbo

4:57pm

The spreads don't get all set at the beginning of the year. Bettors have more

Tricky

2:10pm

I know. Yet here we are with another expected loss according to the line makers and bettors. I'd say the chances are

mulletino

2:32pm

Why would UCF be favored? They lost to CU and CU beat Baylor. We just beat

11:44am

We have to go to Florida to play UCF. Home field advantage & travel and the

NOCAL_YFAN

12:01pm

Playing UCF in Orlando didn't seem to bother Colorado

slatecoug

3:19pm

Well yeah, FPI does say we have a 5% chance of going 0-4 in the next 4 games . .

viper

3:57pm

What chance did FPI give us to go 5-0 at start of the year? I don’t 0-4 in the

Cooouuugs

4:15pm

FPI is a joke at the beginning of the season basing it on last year. Anyone

viper

4:30pm

Fair enough, point conceded

Cooouuugs

6:48pm

Understandable considering what ISU did to us last year

11:32am

Such a pathetic game. Left w/ just a couple minutes left & apologized for not giving them a better game passed ISU fans.

Soupie

12:46pm

What gripe would Iowa State fans have with BYU?

BYU Fan

11:33am

Who says they have a gripe? Could be objective analysis.

YOHONOMOTO

11:37am

He said that many of his Cyclone friends were BYU haters...

BYU Fan

11:41am

oh got it. yeah that is weird.

YOHONOMOTO

11:43am

Maybe they hate BYU for what we did to their basketball team last season

ldssdl

11:44am

They thought BYU's bball team was a paper tiger last year as well, haha

2:05pm

Think they're just trying project their own desires to eliminate who they see as

BackPacker

11:39am

This is probably a part of it

CycloneCoug

11:54am

Iowa state was the loudest voice against BYU joining in 2016

CycloneCoug

11:53am

A few loud voices in student government, where stupid voices are amplified.

HenderCoug

3:41pm

I was on campus when whole student organizations held an anti-BYU rally

CycloneCoug

4:16pm

Religious bigotry

here's to hoping

6:45pm

Isn’t paper tiger a term used for someone over-rated but can’t back it up?

MHOP

11:36am

They’re projecting them to be a paper tiger

CycloneCoug

11:54am

their point is we will be exposed as such going forward and that we only beat weak teams so far

byujag

11:56am

and has the second highest strength of record in the country.

MaxxPower

1:21pm

Is that for the whole season, or the first 5 games?

Tricky

2:11pm

For the first 5 games. It grades how a team has performed relative to

MaxxPower

2:24pm

Thanks - that's great to hear

Tricky

3:40pm

I don't know how you could say that with how our defense has looked.

YOHONOMOTO

11:36am

There's was no paper involved in BYU's trouncing of KSU or wins @ SMU & Baylor

Doogal McCougar

11:37am

BYU is a good home team, I wonder how we do on the road

Projectoor

12:02pm

Although we are 5-0, I also worry about dropping the next 4 games.

Boring

12:43pm

RE: Although we are 5-0, I also worry about dropping the next 4 games.

APowerfulY

3:06pm

We could go 0-4. I don't think we will, but we've lost 4 in a row before.

IronPotato

12:52pm

5 percent chance if you believe FPI. 6 percent chance of winning them all.

bythenumbers

1:30pm

We could go 0-4, 1-3, 2-2, 3-1, or 4-0

runningryan

1:33pm

If I were yewt, I would say we could go 5-0 over our next 4 games.

Pangare

3:28pm

Does anyone think we’ll have more than 8 wins?

stoils

1:35pm

I do. I think 9. plus a potential bowl win. I see us winning Houston and Kansas

BYU-Ite

1:53pm

ESPN is predicting 9.3 wins and that is where I am at, about 9 wins

Projectoor

1:58pm

Pretty much every computer model has doubled the predicted wins to about 9

NYC and Japan

2:22pm

This is what the BYU football team wants more people to doubt them

BulldogCoug79

1:51pm

I seriously doubt that we lose at home to both Arizona and Oklahoma State.

1:54pm

EVERY one of those 4 games are very lose-able. But we are HARDLY a paper tiger. We'll go 4-for-4 before we go 0-for-4.

SinkingQuffa

1:55pm

Assuming independence, 6.3% chance going 4-0, 5.2% chance going 0-4

CycloneCoug

2:20pm

Low expectations are good in this case - most teams play better a chip on their

Srg

2:00pm

During the Sitake era, BYU football has the following win percentages by month:

BYUlv

2:11pm

I'd be more worried about Baylor this Saturday. I don't think ISU survives.

Corn

2:13pm

Here's the reality, BYU could lose every one of the next 4 games, however...

lbmango

2:14pm

Odds are we go anywhere from 1-3 to 3-1 over our next 4 games.

jreid191

2:14pm

Find me 2 guys from any podcast who didn't think we'd only have 4 wins total before the season started.....

AltTabbins

2:37pm

If BYU is a paper tiger

Deeppost

2:48pm

K-state looks better than Iowa IMO

SoBlueitHurts

6:53pm

i know there are some great ISU fans, but in general only Utah fans rival them

Hawk Talons

2:53pm

It's quite possible

dixieutahbyuzag

2:53pm

Protestant Utes

JupiterJones

3:06pm

We could go 0-4 over the next 4. But, it could be fun though …

APowerfulY

3:07pm

"Dog eats own crap in yard."

AF'er

3:21pm

Of course it's possible. BYU hasn't exactly over performed in October. Just hope they're not right & team is

Soupie

3:36pm

To make that kind of prediction just shows they either dislike BYU or have no real knowledge of CFB

Knight-who-says-ni

3:49pm

BYU could go 0-4 lol

Burton162

3:51pm

You think they hate BYU now...wait until basketball season!

coot20

3:52pm

Amen...by far most unfriendly fan base at BB tourney in KC this yr

TampaBlu

4:12pm

I'm not too proud to admit that I'm glad we're not playing ISU in Ames, although

Japan Coug

4:30pm

I think the home team would win that matchup. ISU in Ames or BYU in Provo

CycloneCoug

5:07pm

They killed last year at LES. We were blown out 4 times….

cajuncoug

5:24pm

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