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Sep 20, 2024
5:52:54pm

boctabulous All-American

In fact, on all 4th and 2 plays in the since the 1998-1999 season, quarterback

sneaks were successful 89.7% of the time, greater than the 82.8% of the time for 4th and 1. Sneaks were rarer on 4th and 2 plays, happening only 29 times from between the 1998 and the 2015 season, but this shows that sneaks are not only successful for incredibly short yardage situations.

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Here's my biggest gripe with Arod's play calling, 4th and inches, why are we

MHallDidNothingWr0ng

Sep 20, 9:56am

My guess is we don't trust the o-line and rbs to get push

spidercoug

Sep 20, 10:00am

Agreed. Why not try the power I at least once?

temosabe

Sep 20, 10:00am

Bohanon QB sneak probably works 99% of the time

stansburycoug

Sep 20, 10:03am

CB rule: if it is 3rd or 4th down and 3 yards or less, run 100% of the time

Jeremy

Sep 20, 10:06am

Do that and eventually you will get stopped almost 100% of the time.

ImuaKahuku

Sep 20, 11:26am

Couldn't disagree more. 1 yard or less? sure. im passing on 3rd and 3 though.

boctabulous

Sep 20, 2:36pm

How many times does 4th and inches come up in a season?

StantonMac

Sep 20, 10:06am

Irrelevant. When it does come up, do a sneak. Pretty simple.

boctabulous

Sep 20, 2:37pm

Why doesn’t every team always do a sneak on 4th and inches? Not rhetorical. There are probably reasons.

mvtoro

Sep 20, 2:59pm

Some do. See the Philadelphia Eagles, or the Patriots when they had Tom Brady.

MHallDidNothingWr0ng

Sep 20, 4:11pm

Most teams don’t, though. Why? Most teams don’t have Hurts, but Brady and Hurts are very different, so it’s not just QB.

mvtoro

Sep 20, 4:21pm

And it works well with literally every QB.

boctabulous

Sep 20, 5:36pm

Pride, boredom, stupidity. Idk

boctabulous

Sep 20, 5:36pm

You really think so? I don’t.

mvtoro

Sep 20, 8:00pm

Why do you think teams choose plays that are proven to be less successful?

boctabulous

Sep 21, 6:35am

I think you’re oversimplifying a multifactorial decision, and are probably totally unaware of some of those factors.

mvtoro

Sep 21, 3:31pm

Definitely unaware of. It seems everyone is unaware of. I would like to hear

boctabulous

Sep 21, 3:38pm

if the opposing defensive knows you're going to throw every down it gives them an advantage. You have to "keep

HarlemCoug

Sep 21, 3:46pm

Eh, I know the eagles will qb sneak on every 3rd or 4th and inches. Still works

boctabulous

Sep 21, 4:22pm

So why don't all NFL teams do it? They're dumb and you're smart?

HarlemCoug

Sep 21, 4:27pm

For about the 4th time now, i have no clue. They should though. Its by far the

boctabulous

Sep 21, 4:33pm

The Eagles have some different factors than other teams. Do you think it’s equally effective with Andy Dalton as it is

mvtoro

Sep 21, 6:09pm

Yep. Was watching a rams game a while back and they put up a stat that showed

boctabulous

Sep 21, 6:44pm

So I think you’re drawing some conclusions from data that aren’t founded. I believe Stanford is 16 of 16. But that

mvtoro

Sep 21, 7:59pm

QB sneak works way more often than any other play. Bottom line. Fact

boctabulous

Sep 21, 8:36pm

If you say so. Still doesn’t mean every team should run it every time.

mvtoro

Sep 21, 9:36pm

Ok. Just more often.

boctabulous

Sep 21, 9:38pm

That’s probably true for a lot of teams.

mvtoro

Sep 21, 9:41pm

And we are 8-10 on fourth down, so i dont get complaining

spidercoug

Sep 20, 10:08am

yeah, its working. Everyone expects power running. 4th and short in shotgun?

LeonMarek

Sep 20, 10:26am

Exactly. So many on CB obsessed with complaining about everything FB. Last year

NYC and Japan

Sep 20, 11:16am

and a lot of our 4th down misses were power runs up the gut

LeonMarek

Sep 20, 2:22pm

Not possible. We dont even had a lot of 4th down misses total so there cant be

boctabulous

Sep 20, 2:38pm

Ya the post should.have been about 3rd and short not 4th. Good catch

stansburycoug

Sep 20, 11:54am

What? How rare do you think this is?

HarlemCoug

Sep 20, 10:20am

What? Did we run out of things to complain about that are not working well?

Sep 20, 11:10am

I like the play they ran Romney to Romney down on the goal line a few years ago

ImuaKahuku

Sep 20, 11:28am

That has bugged me as well. Hardly ever a qb sneak

here's to hoping

Sep 20, 11:35am

Seems like A-rod often gets TD's, big yardage on 4th and short, is it because

Sep 20, 11:45am

Do you really want to know why or are you going to gripe even if there is logic to it?

Sep 20, 11:59am

Qb sneak with the big boys seems like would work 80% of the time

BulldogCoug79

Sep 20, 1:54pm

That isn't even an opinion. Its just fact. Statistics are kept that prove it.

boctabulous

Sep 20, 2:39pm

Agree 100% I see shotgun in those situations in the nfl often lead to 2 or 3

boctabulous

Sep 20, 2:32pm

just looked up the data:

boctabulous

Sep 20, 5:38pm

On 4th and 1 all plays total have a 65.7% chance of success. Passing plays have

boctabulous

Sep 20, 5:41pm

Heck I have always wanted to see what happens if a team runs a qb sneak on 1st

boctabulous

Sep 20, 5:50pm

In fact, on all 4th and 2 plays in the since the 1998-1999 season, quarterback

boctabulous

Sep 20, 5:52pm

Watched a lot of football Sunday and today. Saw 3 QB sneaks. All 3 got the

boctabulous

Sep 23, 10:11pm

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