Anti-free market, maybe. Capitalist means something else.

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Sep 19, 2024
7:24:47am

OrsoNero Truly Addicted User

Anti-free market, maybe. Capitalist means something else.

There's nothing incompatible about capitalism itself and monopolies, non-transparent pricing, etc. It can either work within a free market system or subvert it depending on the situation. Like the Uber model, or Microsoft Windows, or other efforts to capture and control a given market.

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OrsoNero

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Just got back from getting kid stitches in ER. Any guesses on how

cougarfann888

1:08am

4 cost me 3K, Problem is we took our kid for 2 times for stitches before getting that first bill.

KYU

1:16am

Oof I was hoping for under 1k. I was thinking 1500 would be high end

cougarfann888

1:16am

Yeah I don't think you can sniff the inside of the ER for less than $1k

goidcougs

1:35am

I’m pretty sure most ERs have a $1k ER fee just for using it.

Pepe

6:45am

RE: Oof I was hoping for under 1k. I was thinking 1500 would be high end

imdocrob

12:26pm

RE: 4 cost me 3K, Problem is we took our kid for 2 times for stitches before getting that first bill.

KYU

1:17am

Why so much?

bday

1:25am

Because you have a lower deductible with your insurance.

TANK

1:37am

because there were 10 people in the waiting room and I was the only responsible person in the group. So I had to pay

KYU

2:13am

RE: because there were 10 people in the waiting room and I was the only

dtrom34

11:53am

Or did I misconstrue your message, and you literally paid for 10 people?

dtrom34

11:56am

Do you not know what a responsible party is in the context of healthcare?

KYU

2:39pm

RE: Do you not know what a responsible party is in the context of healthcare?

imdocrob

3:25pm

RE: because there were 10 people in the waiting room and I was the only

imdocrob

12:27pm

Honestly depends if you have insurance. If you have no insurance plan to pay under $1k. If you have insurance they

TANK

1:35am

My Daughter got 3 stitches at an instacare 2 months ago. $175 total.

robear16

5:33am

My Obamacare deductible is $6500, so do I lie and tell them I don’t have

Iman23

6:26am

You don't have to lie. You don't have to say you don't have insurance. You can just say you'll be paying out of pocket,

supertux

6:35am

This. We do this from time to time, esp if it's for something not covered by our insurance. We've never been questioned

unctoothman

6:52am

The offices giving a clear cost is the problem. They can't. They won't. Or

Iman23

9:21am

RE: The offices giving a clear cost is the problem. They can't. They won't. Or

unctoothman

11:28am

Depends on whether you will eventually pay the full deductible. My wife and son

NYC and Japan

7:21am

One of my kids had surgery recently. The hospital required me to call in advance to get a financial estimate.

Black Diamond Bay

2:48am

So you still haven't seen the final number?

RexIdaCoug

6:35am

How would he know it’s the final number? Another bill may just show up. You

DiamondMo

9:22am

*she

RexIdaCoug

11:02am

RE: *she

DiamondMo

3:53pm

No, this is Hawaii, I may not see a bill for months.

Black Diamond Bay

11:06am

And to complicate things they aren't the only provider for your 1 procedure

j20

7:28am

You didn't have this option at 3am, but when I needed stitches a few years ago

willkie40

3:15am

Urgent Care clinics are the best option. Cheaper and faster. Had my hand stitche

cougfrvr

5:06am

This is why I just used butterfly bandage under my eye last week when dude split it open with his elbow at bball. I knew

supertux

3:52am

US Healthcare system is enough to make people want socialized medicine.

Shore10

4:54am

I am already there. What we have now is absolutely awful.

Iman23

5:03am

When Hillary was working on healthcare

dratax

5:34am

The lack of transparency to the consumer is criminal.

Iman23

6:23am

RE: US Healthcare system is enough to make people want socialized medicine.

Recipefordisaster

6:06am

Just remember our elected officials could fix it. They choose not to.

Recipefordisaster

6:07am

Only 31 out of 32 developed countries have universal care. We should wait 😉

Dataguy

6:28am

It’s intentionally been slowly set up for this

maxpowers

7:14am

100%.. and if we went true two-tier the vast majority here would get better

cougfanz

7:36am

this is de facto socialized medicine. It certainly is NOT a clear free market.

niqmadu

9:00am

We should look closer at the German open-market system, which sounds superior

Mitty

4:55pm

How many times did they ask how it happened? At least 6?

BlueFreak

5:30am

Definitely at least 6

cougarfann888

8:05am

My gues. 750 for ER. 750 for doc

niqmadu

5:34am

Despite what the bill says, ER doc gets around $100. Rest goes to the hospital.

VACougMD

6:27am

I always got two bills. One fore the hospital and one fore the physiscian group

niqmadu

6:49am

Just trying to provide perspective as an ER doc. Usually 95-98% of an ER bill

VACougMD

7:17am

I absolutely believe it.

niqmadu

8:58am

the doc get paid for the shift too though

JOPE

8:35am

For future reference,

MaxWasRight

6:15am

Did they treat you like a child abuser? Did they have three different

Mister P

6:52am

Not when our kid was at the ER getting a forehead stitched up from a baseball bad and being evaluated for concussion

unctoothman

6:56am

Just paid $1800 for that situation.

dtownCoug

6:59am

Lack of price transparency and insurance are the most anti-capitalist force in

CornfedCougar

7:09am

Anti-free market, maybe. Capitalist means something else.

OrsoNero

7:24am

Fair point. Undermining the free market is a better way to word it. The message,

CornfedCougar

7:44am

Exactly, why can't it work more like car insurance? We all just shop around and

Mitty

8:23am

Are ‘kid stitches’ less expensive than ‘adult stitches’?

m0resn0w

7:27am

18 months from now, let us know how much it cost you.

orangepitbull

8:10am

One of my business ideas- hire an NP to cover mobile stitching throughout

cougfanz

8:14am

Did your child get sedation?

hunkahunka

9:43am

No sedation, just me pinning him down while he screamed the whole time.

cougarfann888

10:03am

depends on your insurance. Wouldn't cost me dime right now bc we have reached our out of pocket

BYU Grounds

9:53am

$2900

Magneto

10:57am

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