you know what they say

Sep 13, 2024
8:46:38am

Strawhat4life Contributor

it takes one to know one. Don't you think straw hat would be good at detecting straw man arguments?

BTW, the strawhat in my name is related to an anime character who's nickname is Strawhat Luffy. His pirate crew is called the strawhats. That is where my boardname comes from.

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Strawhat4life

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Heard a story directly from a Utah season ticket holder

HRCougar

Sep 12, 10:48pm

But are we surprised? They have this anti churchy complex that’s just insane.

bornbyu93

Sep 12, 11:06pm

They seem to think you either have to be LDS or LSD. You can just be a

ballen

Sep 12, 11:11pm

RE: They seem to think you either have to be LDS or LSD. You can just be a

bornbyu93

Sep 12, 11:13pm

Yet they forget their president and

airbug

Sep 12, 11:25pm

I honestly bet they are probably alright outside of playing byu

conetah

Sep 13, 5:48am

Nope, their fans are who they are because of the not BYU thing but

travelcoug

Sep 13, 7:45am

at the special event center last year

44C

Sep 13, 8:18am

It is not just vs BYU. It is at its worst vs BYU. It is alcohol induced where I

Cougarbib

Sep 13, 9:43am

I believe it must come from some societal implications of living in predominant

Robert Baratheon

Sep 13, 7:36am

Can we be friends?

NonmormonYfan89

Sep 13, 10:05am

Only if you tailgate

bornbyu93

Sep 13, 10:18am

That’s my problem, I’ve not been able to find any like minded Y fans.

NonmormonYfan89

Sep 13, 10:26am

I’ll look into setting up at lot 18 for the Kstate game and DM you

bornbyu93

Sep 13, 12:07pm

I think there are several on this board like you my friend! Seek them out!

ColonelMustard

Sep 13, 5:32pm

Oh man virginute’s cussin at me on DM’s boys

bornbyu93

Sep 13, 9:31pm

Mission accomplished...you got to him

CLCougar

Sep 13, 10:44pm

RE: Mission accomplished...you got to him

bornbyu93

Sep 14, 12:42am

VirginiaUte is the best kind of ALUF

stoils

Sep 14, 11:26am

I've been attending Utah home games for over 40 years and rarely is vulgarity an

hebercreeper

Sep 12, 11:12pm

Who wants to demonize the Utah fan base?

DirtyWater

Sep 12, 11:17pm

40 year Utah season ticket holder and posting on a BYU fan board?

GMGlenn

Sep 13, 7:02am

He doesn't go to Utah's message board because of the vulgarity of the posters.

John Doe

Sep 13, 10:18am

I hope your friend

hereforlaughs

Sep 12, 11:18pm

I've attended loads of SEC games. Only Death Valley (LSU)...

Mississippi

Sep 13, 12:02pm

There’s a huge difference between playing a team once vs playing them every

bookofdaniel

Sep 13, 12:08pm

Have you ever left anything on the West Concourse?

GSwarriorcoug

Sep 12, 11:18pm

Yeah besides thousands yelling F Baylor last week.

BYU '80

Sep 12, 11:34pm

Ouch. Game set match there.

TADOW

Sep 13, 9:21am

Ignorance is bliss

bornbyu93

Sep 12, 11:35pm

So much vulgarity at every Ute game I have attended. Raining down on my

Big Daddy D

Sep 12, 11:39pm

That's too bad. You should come sit by me. I promise not to pour beer on you.

hebercreeper

Sep 12, 11:41pm

You utes are such trash man😂

bornbyu93

Sep 12, 11:47pm

The deflection and denial is strong. There is nothing that will happen

BYU '80

Sep 13, 9:39am

What about disparaging Max Hall's mom?

BYU Grounds

Sep 13, 10:05am

“but the reality is that most Utah fans are are polite and respectful”

Flyski

Sep 12, 11:43pm

Here’s an experiment: Wear a BYU hat and t-shirt to the next home game.

HiLife

Sep 13, 12:03am

Then do the opposite. I have first hand experience with bringing UU fans to game

BlueTooth

Sep 13, 7:56am

I'll pitch in $100 if you wear a hidden camera and microphone!

BYU Grounds

Sep 13, 10:06am

My old boss was a long-time season ticket holder up there

Carnac

Sep 13, 12:17am

I sat mid-field among the rich boosters east side. It was terrible. I would

Cougarbib

Sep 13, 12:45am

Tailgate kit?

RoboKayne

Sep 13, 7:41am

Not that they couldn't find a way, haha.

RoboKayne

Sep 13, 7:47am

Autocorrect issue. Tailgating is what was intended. Nothing about a kit.

Cougarbib

Sep 13, 9:48am

Dang it. I didn't mean to be a pedant. I was honestly hoping they gave you some

RoboKayne

Sep 13, 11:46am

They did set out a tray of Condoms at the USC Trojans game.

Cougarbib

Sep 13, 3:04pm

I haven’t been back to RES since 2008. Last straw for me.

SierraCoug

Sep 13, 12:48am

As a BYU fan that has attended a BYU vs Utah game

Lavell4life

Sep 13, 2:05am

Hard to judge a fan base just based on their rivalry game.

conetah

Sep 13, 5:44am

We can judge them by lots of games. Last week as an example

BYU '80

Sep 13, 9:41am

I’m sorry, chanting F U is pretty minor imo. Happens all the time in basketball

conetah

Sep 13, 9:59am

And this is why Huntsman center has curtains and empty seats. U fans do

Cougarbib

Sep 13, 10:01am

Happens all the time in a lot of basketball arenas

conetah

Sep 13, 10:21am

They don’t have curtains. When you offend more than half of your fanbase,

Cougarbib

Sep 13, 10:26am

This isn’t why their arena is empty.

conetah

Sep 13, 10:51am

U don’t know the silent majority of your fanbase.

Cougarbib

Sep 13, 3:05pm

wut? Utah would fill an LES size stadium every game

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 11:04am

That explains why they haven’t built one…..wait….no, it doesn’t.

Cougarbib

Sep 13, 4:50pm

and?

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 6:20pm

The demand is there for the relatively small stadium you have. A larger stadium

Cougarbib

Sep 14, 11:16am

No comparison. And not just that one game. I have degrees from both

Cougarbib

Sep 13, 9:51am

Yeah but

Lavell4life

Sep 13, 7:04pm

+1. Also, the rivalry game I remember at LES had a lot of Ute fans there. I

RoboKayne

Sep 13, 7:37pm

Ute fans hate the church first and hate byu second. Ute fandom is unimportant

shammy

Sep 13, 5:43am

Could be a segment of Utes for sure but there is also a segment who are

conetah

Sep 13, 5:46am

The ones who are respectful never do anything about bad behavior from the Church

CameronG

Sep 13, 9:21am

Kinda like our fans or any fans in any area of the country.

conetah

Sep 13, 10:00am

Those people are drowned out by the others. I have an entire extended

BYU '80

Sep 13, 9:42am

And yet, y’all’s “majority” does next to nothing to push back

cajuncoug

Sep 13, 6:14am

The F-you Baylor chant went unnoticed by you?

CougStuckOnTheHill

Sep 13, 7:12am

Attending wearing Red, yea you are one of them. Try wearing BYU gear in a

Blue for Life

Sep 13, 8:09am

Challenge: Go to a game wearing a BYU shirt or hat and just observe.

Thrill

Sep 13, 9:38am

Well, Amanda Dickson at KSL wasn't to happy with the atmosphere.

KCFan85

Sep 13, 12:36pm

Agree. I don’t think lead story is true.

Love Cougs

Sep 13, 1:35pm

Interesting. My brother used to be a fan and go during the MWC days. Against TCU

Benfica1

Sep 13, 2:08pm

I’ve been in the north end zone at Utah vs BYU. I was treated with kindness and

44C

Sep 13, 12:02am

The worst environment I’ve ever been in was the Swamp a couple years ago. We

hebercreeper

Sep 13, 12:06am

RE: The worst environment I’ve ever been in was the Swamp a couple years

bornbyu93

Sep 13, 5:03am

I attended many games with my dad over the years

Fido

Sep 13, 6:07am

Of the two dozen or so college stadiums I’ve attended games in, Rice-Eccles is

CougarScrub

Sep 13, 6:20am

of the two dozen or so sports venues I've visited, LES is the only place where

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 6:31am

RE: of the two dozen or so sports venues I've visited, LES is the only place

BoilerCoug815

Sep 13, 7:23am

RE: of the two dozen or so sports venues I've visited, LES is the only place

44C

Sep 13, 7:51am

100% happened. I'm not biased enough to attribute that behavior to other BYU

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 8:06am

I am sorry that happened to you, there are stupid fans for any school. BYU has

Blue for Life

Sep 13, 8:16am

LOL, no need to be sorry, I don't attribute it to anyone but that guy

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 8:34am

BM sent

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 10:12am

Well, that’s what happen when you start dropping your

m0resn0w

Sep 14, 5:29pm

I wish I could say I did something to provoke it

Strawhat4life

Sep 14, 8:02pm

I posted this same story about my mother being hit with a bottle at LES, only

Utefaninenemyland

Sep 13, 4:31pm

Did you just go on your rivals’ message board to defend your fan base’s

CougarScrub

Sep 14, 10:06am

I pointed out I posted basically this same story in reverse on this board a year

Utefaninenemyland

Sep 14, 10:14am

I never called you a liar or questioned your story. Who’s defensive?

CougarScrub

Sep 14, 10:39am

I’m sure there is some pearl clutching going on in this thread

lilpenny

Sep 13, 6:26am

Almost certainly. But Ute fans can still disproportionately suck

cajuncoug

Sep 13, 6:28am

and? What is the benefit of talking about it nonstop on a BYU fan board?

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 8:53am

Well….

cajuncoug

Sep 13, 12:22pm

Nah, I'm not whining. It doesn't bother me

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 1:31pm

There probably is some of that, but you can't ignore the mountains of evidence

TheRefsStink

Sep 13, 8:34am

Nice rationalization

stoils

Sep 13, 8:58am

Aren’t any nicer? Yeah giving ice cream to the entire visiting section happens

BYU '80

Sep 13, 9:46am

Cougarboard

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 6:29am

What does that even mean?

HRCougar

Sep 13, 6:36am

build up the straw man, knock it down

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 8:51am

Honest question, if you think that is all CB is about, why are you on here?

Blue for Life

Sep 13, 1:00pm

Here is a perfect example of a strawman

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 1:41pm

Thanks for answering and I apologize for my mistake of what you said.

Blue for Life

Sep 13, 2:03pm

No problem

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 2:27pm

Straw-hat accusing CB of making straw-man arguments. LOL.

TheRefsStink

Sep 13, 8:37am

you know what they say

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 8:46am

RE: you know what they say

hydro

Sep 13, 1:36pm

Not sure you understand what a strawman is

BYU '80

Sep 13, 9:47am

A strawman is a logical fallacy in argument

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 9:52am

I'll give the opposite point of view

MyTwoCents

Sep 13, 7:00am

Sounds about right. I have a friend who checks all of your typical die-hard ute

RealComfortableJeans

Sep 13, 7:00am

Either your friend is lying or you're embellishing what he told you

RockyBalboa

Sep 13, 7:02am

No embellishment from me

HRCougar

Sep 13, 7:12am

Then your friend is lying

RockyBalboa

Sep 13, 7:22am

They probably said they wanted it to be rowdy but the school takes pride

BYU '80

Sep 13, 9:48am

Agree. No chance they said "We want it vulgar. That's what we're looking for."

Tricky

Sep 13, 2:49pm

“we actually like it and want it that way.” is completely false. He just needs

NarfUte

Sep 13, 7:10am

Yeah, I suspect that must have been in response to the rowdy part. I could see

BlueTooth

Sep 13, 8:10am

Sure I could see that. I didn't assume Utah was condoning vulgarity per se

HRCougar

Sep 13, 8:29am

I can totally believe they wouldn't move his tickets, for sure. And probably no

BlueTooth

Sep 13, 10:09am

The 95% sure make the 5% look bad up there

travelcoug

Sep 13, 8:01am

While I do think this story is embellished, my husband, a ute, won't go to games with me at RES anymore because of how

TRUE_BLUE_COUGY

Sep 13, 8:09am

I don’t like Utah one bit. But the last sentence of the first paragraph isn’t believable.

Brisco

Sep 13, 8:34am

That story doesn’t sound right.

KYU

Sep 13, 8:40am

“They like it that way” hahah so false. Some of this is true but that last part

bookofdaniel

Sep 13, 8:55am

I actually laughed. The post lost all credibility with that.

Cougstreak

Sep 13, 9:39am

Two comments....

Cougstreak

Sep 13, 9:38am

Beer sprayed on me. Rocks and pennies thrown at me. Silly string sprayed at me.

ugo1st

Sep 13, 9:39am

When I went to a BYU game they turned me into a newt.

utetastic

Sep 13, 12:11pm

"we actually like it that way" bogus, calling cap.

TheLoneCougar

Sep 13, 9:51am

I was once killed at RES. The whole program just needs to be shut down TBH

machete

Sep 13, 9:58am

Did they use a machete?

AFewThoughts

Sep 13, 10:24am

But you're feeling much better now . . .

85fan

Sep 13, 11:38am

My sister was hit in the face with a soda from the BYU student section when she

uteman13

Sep 13, 9:59am

Do you know how those LDS feel on campus? Prejudice. Sidelined. Persecuted?

Dr MoBYU

Sep 13, 10:26am

No. I despise your school

DeepCCoug

Sep 13, 2:24pm

So interesting. All my relationships with people throughout my life in Utah

uteman13

Sep 13, 4:32pm

As long as they aren’t trying to go to the games with their tots painted I’m ok.

NonmormonYfan89

Sep 13, 10:08am

This is Utah university:

Dr MoBYU

Sep 13, 10:28am

Who cares??? Not me

MoscowCoug

Sep 13, 10:30am

I've had the same thing happen at BYU gameS

Mon

Sep 13, 11:47am

Utah vs. BYU is much worse than Texas-Texas A&M or Virginia-Virginia Tech.

DeepCCoug

Sep 13, 2:29pm

Ive missed these CB anecdotal “testimonies” I guess some actually believe em

CorndogStickshift

Sep 13, 6:25pm

So Ute fans who tell them are lying?

Abe Froman

Sep 13, 6:28pm

I went to the BYU vs. Utah game in 2010 (at Utah)

VinnyBYU

Sep 13, 6:43pm

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