Incompetency can be painted across the entire P12. Who held the supreme power is

Jul 16, 2024
12:05:17pm

CallSign Contributor

who should be blamed most. USC could have kept the P12 together and absorbed the best of the remaining Big 12.

Be grateful they didn’t, without it you’re still wallowing in independence.

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From McMurphy…FSU unlikely to join Big Ten or SEC:

rainorsnow

Jul 16, 7:13am

The reason really ends at "doesn't make financial sense." Everything else is

Corn Pop

Jul 16, 7:16am

But Utah does…

Charles Darwin

Jul 16, 7:24am

The yewts have told us repeatedly as 2x RB loser...Invite coming soon!

BlueKarma

Jul 16, 8:27am

Yeah, but they're great partners. Heard Stanford's scheduled for surgery to remove some red lips from their rear.

SinkingQuffa

Jul 16, 1:53pm

Spock: Fascinating

TNT

Jul 16, 7:18am

Some thought FSU to the Big12 was crazy talk

CougarCanuck76

Jul 16, 7:20am

The exact same.

TCuz

Jul 16, 7:22am

Bookmarked

CougarCanuck76

Jul 16, 7:24am

I still think it's unlikely, but I see the chances aren't 0% any more

thewaterboy

Jul 16, 7:31am

They have had third party talks with the Big12

CougarCanuck76

Jul 16, 7:54am

Would love it, but I'm not getting my hopes up at this point.

thewaterboy

Jul 16, 8:12am

That basically makes the Big 12 a lock then right?

puntersarepeople

Jul 16, 7:20am

2036 is forever away though. By then the NBA could be a good product

TNT

Jul 16, 7:21am

How far is 2027?

CougarCanuck76

Jul 16, 7:27am

Far

TNT

Jul 16, 7:28am

Reincarnated David Stern would only be 16 years old at that time, though.

squidmark

Jul 16, 9:34am

Or they leverage the big 12 news for an uneven ACC deal

GlutealGuy

Jul 16, 7:28am

The ACC is currently begging these two to accept an uneven deal with the ACC

CougarCanuck76

Jul 16, 7:56am

Explain how they don’t make financial sense but the Minnesota Gophers do.

Yukon

Jul 16, 7:22am

The Gophers aren't asking to get in.

Corn Pop

Jul 16, 7:23am

Gophers are everywhere. Seminoles not so much

TNT

Jul 16, 7:23am

Adding vs replacing

BYUheaven

Jul 16, 7:24am

Not in the next round of tv negotiations.

Yukon

Jul 16, 7:29am

*Golden Gophers. It's the gold that makes them so valuable.

foofcoug

Jul 16, 7:25am

With nowhere else to go, they have no leverage

deliciousmocha

Jul 16, 7:26am

Never under any circumstances should you have a conference with unequal base

Mitty

Jul 16, 12:09pm

They always have the leverage of the existing ACC

krindorr

Jul 16, 2:02pm

From McMurphy’s article 😂:

rainorsnow

Jul 16, 7:28am

Humble pie has a sweet aftertaste once you get past the bitter part. 😄😄😄😄😄

NOCAL_YFAN

Jul 16, 7:37am

I kind of like that the B12 has a chip on their shoulder.

Benfica1

Jul 16, 8:48am

There's one major difference there

krindorr

Jul 16, 9:45am

Even if SEC/B1G want either, this is probably good messaging legally

SlyCoug

Jul 16, 7:29am

The article goes on in a lot of detail ...

Art Director

Jul 16, 7:32am

Nothing would be better than the BIG saying Utah obviously isn’t a team player

GlutealGuy

Jul 16, 7:35am

Utah was the definition of a team player. They did whatever was asked

Medute

Jul 16, 8:54am

Exactly, it is most of their fan base that is considered toxic.

Q-grr

Jul 16, 9:41am

I think the U as a program was a good partner with the P12. But the key is $. If

SwampyCoug

Jul 16, 9:57am

This is correct, if FSU doesn't add enough value then Utah is a pipe dream.

Atmospheric_Cougar

Jul 16, 10:06am

SLC is a growing and young market

Medute

Jul 16, 11:30am

It is multifaceted but the $ is the deciding factor. Who brings the viewers.

SwampyCoug

Jul 16, 1:15pm

Yes. But they might use $ as the excuse to not take FSU

Medute

Jul 16, 1:56pm

All cute and fun things to think about. But in the end only $$$ matters. Sorry

Atmospheric_Cougar

Jul 16, 2:34pm

Ok great PAC team player…. garbage B12 team player=

Pretorian

Jul 16, 1:08pm

The U is so far a horrific B12 partner.

SwampyCoug

Jul 16, 1:16pm

Why? Because some fans posted stuff on X?

Medute

Jul 16, 2:00pm

This is largely true; conferences care less about fans and more about administrators

krindorr

Jul 16, 2:04pm

You said yourself the U held out the longest. So, the rest were willing to come

SwampyCoug

Jul 16, 3:45pm

That’s not how I look at it at all

Medute

Jul 16, 4:17pm

Here's a test of your credibility and the U's feigned loyalty. Are you saying if

SwampyCoug

Jul 16, 5:20pm

I think the U would have tried to keep the PAC together

Medute

Jul 16, 6:02pm

There's no way the U would have said no. And they should have said yes if

SwampyCoug

Jul 16, 6:19pm

“My perfect outcome for all of this is for Utah to join up with the B1G

Medute

Jul 16, 6:48pm

Once the PAC died the loyalty should shift it it was worth anything… it didn’t

Pretorian

Jul 17, 12:17pm

Nah, I love our fans. It’s like defending siblings

Medute

Jul 17, 3:35pm

At least you own it

Pretorian

Jul 17, 3:51pm

Hidden in there is the real reason. We know ESPN pulls the strings

Medute

Jul 16, 8:55am

Any chance the B1G ever kicks out Nebraska due to not being AAU?

thewaterboy

Jul 16, 7:34am

No chance.

Conan

Jul 16, 7:37am

That's too bad. They could have been a nice add as well and way to entice FSU

thewaterboy

Jul 16, 7:41am

FSU has been an Independent before. Maybe they go back to that.

BlueFever

Jul 16, 7:39am

B1G/SEC: “FSU is too disruptive as a conference member.” Also B1G/SEC:….

NOCAL_YFAN

Jul 16, 7:41am

Utah when seeing the B1G doent like disruptive partners.

Longseason

Jul 16, 7:46am

Utah fans don’t factor. Utah the school and program are good partners.

CallSign

Jul 16, 8:19am

Utah destroyed the P12

Longseason

Jul 16, 8:26am

“Good” and “competent” can be different things.

flyonawall

Jul 16, 11:18am

Incompetency can be painted across the entire P12. Who held the supreme power is

CallSign

Jul 16, 12:05pm

Utah led the way. Completely overestimated value and destroyed negotiations

Unibro

Jul 16, 2:56pm

Wow, Utah had that much sway? Nah, this is CB narrative.

CallSign

Jul 17, 11:58am

FSU's been a disruptive partner? ACC, Big Ten, Pac 12 Alliance ...

KCFan85

Jul 16, 7:53am

Also FSU to their lawyers when they find out they need the whole ACC to collapse

SlyCoug

Jul 16, 8:18am

Big 12:

SJS

Jul 16, 8:23am

Sorry if pointed out but "& ACC survives" is an important phrase.

SwampyCoug

Jul 16, 10:00am

Disruptive Partner, haha, pretty funny they say that

Dr T-bone

Jul 16, 10:22am

For now it doesn't make financial sense. The age of big TV contracts

tamasiaina

Jul 16, 11:28am

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