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May 15, 2024
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EDthoracotomy
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On Sunday we were talking about the word of wisdom. I said people who are fat,
don't exercise, live off of fast food, Diet Coke etc are no different than a guy who has a cup of coffee in the AM or a has a beer with occasionally.
People LOST THEIR MINDS.
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On Sunday we were talking about the word of wisdom. I said people who are fat,
EDthoracotomy
May 15, 4:12pm
That's because what you said is false.
Lance71
May 15, 4:13pm
In the sense that the coffee drinkers are better off?
Plato
May 15, 4:19pm
RE: That's because what you said is false.
goblin
May 15, 4:19pm
I asked a counselor in my stake presidency...
steakandtaters
May 16, 8:31am
All of it is between you and the Lord. This is purely a perspective.
EDthoracotomy
May 16, 12:42pm
But healthy and unhealthy are also black and white.
EDthoracotomy
May 16, 12:42pm
Although that’s an answer it’s not complete
Recipefordisaster
May 16, 2:27pm
Coffee, at least, is healthier than being fat and guzzling soda.
DubuMfalme
May 15, 4:21pm
But coffee is against the Word of Wisdom and being fat is not
2FarGone
May 15, 4:30pm
being fat is against the WofW but it won't keep you out of the temple.
qwerew
May 15, 4:37pm
Could you site your source for this claim?
Lolo
May 15, 4:38pm
it's in the D&C. Talks about taking care of our bodies and health. Fat
qwerew
May 15, 4:44pm
That's really reaching
2FarGone
May 15, 4:48pm
well obey the WofW in your 20's and 30's and don't get fat. 60+ can lose wt.
qwerew
May 15, 4:52pm
😂 🤡
Lolo
May 15, 5:00pm
Suppose you got addicted to nicotine or alcohol or opioids in your 20s.
jvquarterback
May 15, 8:25pm
Could to point out a verse or two that would indicate that section 89 is talking
Lolo
May 15, 4:57pm
I would think the 5% of Americans that fall into the hypothyroid camp should definitely be excused.
Mobettah
May 15, 5:14pm
Really, they clearly aren’t following the WoW or they wouldn’t have it.
Lolo
May 15, 5:24pm
my wife has hypothyroid. She maybe has a couple extra lbs on her.
qwerew
May 15, 5:28pm
Better not go to the temple then. I mean who is to say what fat is?
Lolo
May 15, 5:36pm
who claimed fat people shouldn't go to the temple?
qwerew
May 15, 5:42pm
“Do you understand and obey the WoW?”
Lolo
May 15, 6:06pm
Sorry, but it’s still Calories in Calories Out
canuckchuck
May 15, 7:34pm
Your answer to the question could be no, but then the interviewer would ask, ok
palangi
May 15, 10:25pm
The D and C can not be used a a source for following the WoW. Its way to
kotacoug
May 15, 8:31pm
Being fat and not taking care of yourself are not the same thing.
NYC and Japan
May 15, 9:38pm
She gained 2 lbs a week for 3 years? While teaching aerobics? She’d be over 400
DiamondMo
May 15, 11:29pm
Was supposed to be 2 pounds a month
NYC and Japan
May 16, 3:59pm
No, it is not.
2FarGone
May 15, 4:43pm
Only if you don’t answer the temple recommend question according to the belief
Lolo
May 15, 4:58pm
This is truth
palangi
May 15, 8:55pm
RE: But coffee is against the Word of Wisdom and being fat is not
tippmancoug
May 15, 5:31pm
Where in D and C does it say not to drink coffee?
Calicoug75
May 15, 8:26pm
Here you go:
steakandtaters
May 16, 8:37am
Go back and look at pictures of GAs in the late 1800s.
pittsburghcoug
May 15, 6:57pm
Fatness sometimes is a sin. It should not keep you out of the temple.
ParentingNotForSissy
May 15, 7:15pm
RE: Coffee, at least, is healthier than being fat and guzzling soda.
scmndm
May 15, 7:33pm
how most people order Starbucks etc is way less healthy than diet soda
jpv
May 15, 10:22pm
Nope. Word of wisdom calls for things to abstain from and things to do. Not
EDthoracotomy
May 15, 7:16pm
Where in the D&C does it say I can’t have an occasional beer with a friend?
Calicoug75
May 15, 8:31pm
Where does it say don't follow the teachings of the prophet?
OldFogey
May 15, 9:20pm
Did everyone get the COVID vaccine? Have you ever watched an R rated movie?
Calicoug75
May 15, 10:22pm
RE: Did everyone get the COVID vaccine? Have you ever watched an R rated movie?
OldFogey
May 16, 6:02am
Prophets said to get vaccine and to not watch R rated movies. Same as no beer.
Calicoug75
May 16, 8:07am
I'm only interested in the opinions of compotent medical providers.
SJS
May 15, 4:13pm
I hope being able to correctly spell the word competent doesn't disqualify them.
DomCasual
May 15, 5:51pm
A competent medical professional can tell you if you are obeying a commandment?
Lance71
May 15, 7:11pm
RE: On Sunday we were talking about the word of wisdom. I said people who are
BYUheaven
May 15, 4:17pm
The WoW does include being proactively healthy, but it is different. The “donts” of the WoW are for the most part clear
cheezedawg
May 15, 4:19pm
RE: The WoW does include being proactively healthy, but it is different. The
tippmancoug
May 15, 5:42pm
You're not likely to get an answer on this one.
Cougar Junkie
May 15, 6:31pm
This is such a simple answer. Lot's of people don't like the answer.
Lance71
May 15, 7:14pm
This is the only answer that is not debatable.
Calicoug75
May 15, 8:37pm
I don’t know why coffee is included in the WoW. I abstain from it as an act of faith.
cheezedawg
May 15, 11:06pm
Yeah but that's semantics. It says no liquor but beer isn't considered a strong
EDthoracotomy
May 15, 11:51pm
Because you are wrong.
CopperLix
May 15, 4:20pm
Not even close.
EDthoracotomy
May 15, 7:16pm
I know what you’re saying. The key to the WoW is treating our bodies
sparky
May 15, 4:23pm
The WoW is about obedience not health.
Lolo
May 15, 4:25pm
It’s about both.
cheezedawg
May 15, 4:27pm
If it was about health it is wrong and severely limited in its scope.
Lolo
May 15, 4:36pm
Take it to the religion category for attacks against prophetic counsel
Plato
May 15, 4:43pm
What are you talking about? I am not against the WoW or prophetic
Lolo
May 15, 5:07pm
You claim that the health code given in DnC 89 is "wrong."
Plato
May 15, 5:08pm
No I claim that DC 89 isn’t a health code.
Lolo
May 15, 5:09pm
Oh, in that case
Plato
May 15, 5:19pm
It is easy to claim it to be a health code. The first 4 verse explain why it was
Lolo
May 15, 5:28pm
This is the answer of last resort.
Cougar Junkie
May 15, 6:33pm
Interesting to see that people don’t like this answer, but it is more true than
Lolo
May 15, 6:57pm
It's about things we should and things we should not do AS WELL as obedience.
EDthoracotomy
May 15, 7:17pm
Remember when the Lord said "more or less than this cometh of evil"
2FarGone
May 15, 4:37pm
You mean you’re being obedient to a law as it’s currently given. What a concept.
Lolo
May 15, 4:43pm
Moderation in all things isn’t that a part of WofW
U2wearblue
May 15, 6:36pm
Ding ding! You just nailed the ridiculousness of it!
Cougar Junkie
May 15, 6:40pm
Very confusing debate as a non member listening
U2wearblue
May 15, 6:42pm
RE: On Sunday we were talking about the word of wisdom. I said people who are fat,
Bob Vance
May 15, 4:23pm
From a health perspective you are right. From a religious perspective you’re wrong. Which to me is why the WofW may
RalphWiggam
May 15, 4:24pm
The Strength of Youth booklet has been modified from Dos/Don'ts to precepts –
Benfica1
May 15, 4:34pm
Principles & doctrine don't always necessarily coincide with Church policy
futbalmaven
May 15, 4:46pm
Oh, but they have over the years.
coolblue
May 15, 8:19pm
Disagree
futbalmaven
May 16, 5:32am
This could be true but maybe the spiritual law is all about ones health
futbalmaven
May 15, 4:44pm
It already is being redefined.
Calicoug75
May 15, 8:42pm
Good thing trolling isn't against the WoW.
CougarMandias
May 15, 4:27pm
Well - I exercise and generally eat ok - but I do like 2-3 DC's during the day. So..... But I do think your point
JamieTartt
May 15, 4:30pm
they clearly don't understand the WofW.
qwerew
May 15, 4:35pm
One thing sillier then the WoW itself, is arguing about it in church.
RIGAMORTIS
May 15, 4:41pm
well the arguing about in church part is correct.
qwerew
May 15, 4:47pm
that's because it's easy to skip a beer but not easy to skip the potato chips.
qwerew
May 15, 4:48pm
100% agree. Love that you said that in a class.
4thand19
May 15, 4:54pm
No, you didn't
Buckeye
May 15, 4:55pm
Sorry - Just slammed 2 rockstars to get myself through this temple session. I'll
Truks Opinions
May 15, 4:58pm
When the famine comes, you'll be the first to die while I live off my reserves
OldFogey
May 15, 4:58pm
At a minimum you have to separate ongoing behavior from a physical condition
Tricky
May 15, 5:02pm
Well, you showed them.
DomCasual
May 15, 5:12pm
Not trying to show anyone just give a different perspective
EDthoracotomy
May 15, 7:18pm
RE: On Sunday we were talking about the word of wisdom. I said people who are
tippmancoug
May 15, 5:40pm
Loved your comment! I think one of the things I would love to change
plethora
May 15, 6:29pm
I've heard plenty of people voice opinions... as opinions... in church.
Benfica1
May 15, 6:36pm
Really wish it were this way
plethora
May 16, 12:09am
It is in my experience.
Benfica1
May 16, 9:11am
Thx. Good to hear
plethora
May 16, 10:32am
Really like this take. Makes church better this way. I have active friends who
EDthoracotomy
May 15, 7:18pm
It’s because obesity is a pandemic. and odds are you were talking to a bunch of
Recipefordisaster
May 15, 6:43pm
A post above lists several prophets and apostles that were overweight to quite
NYC and Japan
May 15, 9:58pm
only one man ever walked the earth without sin.
qwerew
May 15, 10:47pm
Metabolic Health is a choice. We control what we eat. Exercise is a choice.
Recipefordisaster
May 16, 6:10am
RE: On Sunday we were talking about the word of wisdom. I said people who are
AltTabbins
May 15, 7:22pm
If you actually put it that way, then maybe it was your caustic tone.
SwampyCoug
May 15, 7:29pm
Probably way worse tbh
canuckchuck
May 15, 7:31pm
It is worst but not against the WoW specifically.
Lolo
May 15, 7:49pm
lol none of it makes any sense, but I’m over here with my 🍿
NonmormonYfan89
May 15, 7:51pm
Probably because you said it in the spirit of shaming.
VenomFarmer
May 15, 11:09pm
That and the high horse from which it was bragged to CB on
OldFogey
May 16, 7:43am
Not bragging. Just curious about people's thoughts. Based on the post it seems
EDthoracotomy
May 16, 12:44pm
Not at all. Just as a different perspective. Shaming would be with the intention
EDthoracotomy
May 16, 12:43pm
You made a fair point; delivery is important. Charged words can lose the point.
SwampyCoug
May 16, 2:41pm
Obviously there needs to be and should always be tact and words should come from
EDthoracotomy
May 16, 7:31pm
I wish it was obvious to everyone. Someone said years ago that if you haven't
SwampyCoug
May 16, 7:41pm
From reading your OP
VenomFarmer
May 16, 2:43pm
Absolutely. This doesn't include people with legitimate metabolic/medical hx.
EDthoracotomy
May 16, 7:34pm
Hahahahaha. Best post in a long time! I agree
crablegs
May 16, 1:15am
Can be far more damaging than coffee
VenomFarmer
May 16, 9:33pm
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