Pass protection was good (32nd out of 133 FBS teams). Run blocking was bad

Feb 19, 2024
11:07:13am

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A better run game would have helped, but the issues are deeper in my opinion. His mechanics, reads, and arm strength don’t be appear to be up to par. Hope I’m wrong if he’s the starter.

Ksl

Pick Six Previews: A statistical breakdown of BYU football's 2023 season

While some hurdles were expected in 2023, it is still shocking to see BYU finish with a losing record (5-7, 2-7 Big 12).

https://www.ksl.com/article/50867358/pick-six-previews-a-statistical-breakdown-of-byu-footballs-2023-season

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For those that don't have Cougconnect, you need to get yourself an account, good article on the QB situation...

Coug Texan

Feb 19, 10:12am

As long as he stops chucking the ball into the dirt 5 feet in front of the receiver, I’m on board with Retzlaff.

specsauce

Feb 19, 10:14am

He also had repeated issues with the mess point on the zone read handoffs

I'mBatman

Feb 19, 12:11pm

Mess point or Mesh point? I guess leave it as Mess point in this case.

Cougarbib

Feb 19, 4:23pm

Not Bohanon?

RGGeemer

Feb 19, 10:20am

RE: Not Bohanon?

Coug

Feb 19, 10:28am

Proven FBS QB should get all the benefit of the doubt over a likely non-D1 QB

byuTX

Feb 19, 11:36am

If it’s no Bohanon I’ll be surprised

Pretorian

Feb 19, 12:16pm

Bohanon will be 3rd string at best is my prediction

Coug

Feb 19, 12:22pm

I hope you’re right but really? Was he a PWO or something?

Pretorian

Feb 19, 1:18pm

That's the rumor but not confirmed.

Coug

Feb 19, 1:22pm

PWO doesn’t mean anything with NIL

puntersarepeople

Feb 19, 1:30pm

I love Bohanon's scrambling ability. And he throws a pretty good pass also.

84 natlchamps

Feb 19, 2:58pm

He's a wildcard, knows the O. Knee OK? Could be the starter. We'll see....

Hawk in the 303

Feb 19, 10:37am

He doesn't know the offense... I know that's a thing to say...

Coug

Feb 19, 10:38am

Knee... I think you mean shoulder.

TheLoneCougar

Feb 19, 11:23am

Even more of an unknown....

Hawk in the 303

Feb 19, 2:08pm

He’s also a poor man’s RN

I'mBatman

Feb 19, 12:24pm

You are taking RN whole career and comparing it to 4 games

Coug

Feb 19, 12:42pm

Sorry I’m Team Jake on this one

Cooouuugs

Feb 19, 2:56pm

I'm down for Retzlaff starting. Experience tells us that experience with the

AF_Puma

Feb 19, 10:22am

That is concerning.....JR was not good.

kansascougar

Feb 19, 10:25am

Most QB's thrown into that situation wouldn't have looked much better

Coug

Feb 19, 10:27am

Don't disagree. He is like Riley Nelson--he can make plays with his feet

kansascougar

Feb 19, 10:30am

But with a passer rating 40 points lower than Nelson 🙁

byuTX

Feb 19, 11:30am

Poor man Riley Nelson.

kansascougar

Feb 19, 12:08pm

Not even in the same zip code as a poor man's RN

byuTX

Feb 19, 12:09pm

Hard to evaluate Slovis or Retzlaff with a O-line that couldn't stop a nosebleed

BYUlv

Feb 19, 10:56am

Pass protection was good (32nd out of 133 FBS teams). Run blocking was bad

kansascougar

Feb 19, 11:07am

The offense in general wasn’t good but he looked much better than KS

Bobmarleyjr

Feb 19, 12:17pm

He showed flashes of being good. Hopefully he can get better and be more

thewaterboy

Feb 19, 10:27am

He faced the 2 best pass efficiency defenses in the conference...

Coug

Feb 19, 10:32am

The OSU game is a little misleading. He did play ok in first half, but 2nd half

NewBYUfannonLDS

Feb 19, 11:44am

He actually made some plays vs ISU as it went on but we gave upr

puntersarepeople

Feb 19, 1:04pm

I think you're exaggerating that someone needs to blow away the competition to

pinolero

Feb 19, 10:33am

he made sooo many mistakes that had nothing to do with the competition.

claw

Feb 19, 10:44am

Missing wide open receivers

deliciousmocha

Feb 19, 10:52am

You need live reps to work on these items. Repetition can fix a lot of it.

TheLoneCougar

Feb 19, 11:25am

Again, his first start was against West Virginia at West Virginia in week 8 of the season...

Coug

Feb 19, 11:34am

This is true. Especially so if you're a bad QB

byuTX

Feb 19, 11:37am

The mistakes can be fixed. The pick six was lack of experience, the fumble

NewBYUfannonLDS

Feb 19, 12:03pm

To be honest I am not sure any of the QB's on our roster can help this offense.

Nagurski

Feb 19, 10:51am

I hate that this is even a topic of discussion

AltTabbins

Feb 19, 11:14am

Only if we had a 4* in the pipeline a few years ago who was stepping up

Pretorian

Feb 19, 12:22pm

If that's true people also need to get used to the idea of going 3-9. He's got a passer rating 10 points below Heaps 🙁

byuTX

Feb 19, 11:27am

If our only win is @u, I could lol with that.

Cougarbib

Feb 19, 11:41am

sadly that goes in the certain loss column. Bad team and bad coaching aren't going to stand a chance.

byuTX

Feb 19, 11:42am

Yep. The only positive from Retzlaff starting would be A-Rod getting canned.

fredgarvin

Feb 19, 2:19pm

With sitake to follow after a dismal 2025

byuTX

Feb 19, 4:10pm

If Kalani and A-Rod are hitching their job wagon to Retzlaff… they’re digging

Cougar86

Feb 19, 11:40am

Retzlaf moved the ball better than Slovis. It was the turnovers that killed us

rbr

Feb 19, 11:45am

Not sure that's true. JR had 80 fewer passing yards per game and more than a yard less per attempt or per completion.

byuTX

Feb 19, 11:50am

Offense certainly ran better, Retzlaff opened up the run game.

RGGeemer

Feb 19, 12:01pm

We jumped in rushing yardage while dropping more in passing yardage. Overall, a 10 yard drop and 0-4 finish

byuTX

Feb 19, 12:09pm

RE: Not sure that's true. JR had 80 fewer passing yards per game and more than a

NewBYUfannonLDS

Feb 19, 12:09pm

Overall a 10 yards per game drop

byuTX

Feb 19, 12:10pm

QBs get hurt in AROD's O so we will see QB2 start one or more games.

VB2

Feb 19, 11:48am

I will add that Retlaff has better numbers than Sol Jay, Koy, Jr., Connover and Jackson Brown. So it could be worse

byuTX

Feb 19, 11:52am

I actually think JR can be better than Greene. Greene has had the luxury of

NewBYUfannonLDS

Feb 19, 12:13pm

retzlaff was injured until halfway through the season so missed fall camp plus

cougrrrr

Feb 19, 12:14pm

Retzlaff will lead us to the promised land (championship).

rmsenior

Feb 19, 12:26pm

I think Retzlaff will greatly improve. Championship (some TIC?). I believe in

DawgHaus

Feb 19, 1:22pm

This was a play on Moses and Retzlaff's religion, half serious.

rmsenior

Feb 19, 3:08pm

If he’s the starter he won’t win enough Big12 games over the course of his entire career needed to win a title. I’d say

byuTX

Feb 19, 4:12pm

Not hating on Retzlaff...but Greene's 2022 was closer to Greene's 2023 than to Retzlaff last year

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