It’s a question of whether it’s more important to beat good teams or lose to good teams. The answer to that is arbitrary

Jan 2, 2025
3:03:10pm

mvtoro Scrub

But once established the process is no longer arbitrary; it’s determined only by winning and losing.

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I know most non-BYU fans would disagree, but I think BYU was the best team in

VACougMD

Jan 2, 5:52am

I don’t see how you could argue strongly against ASU.

Yukon

Jan 2, 6:28am

As a fan I agree. Score board goes to ASU. I still believe BYU beats ASU this yr

SBB

Jan 2, 6:31am

RE: As a fan I agree. Score board goes to ASU. I still believe BYU beats ASU

44C

Jan 2, 6:48am

Both ASU & BYU showed that they were the best two teams in the conference. Play the game 10 times and I think its split

WDaddy

Jan 2, 6:46am

I think BYU would have beaten ASU if they played in the CCG. Like tOSU, regular

BYUHgrad

Jan 2, 6:52am

Yep, exactly this. Just because Oregon won the regular season matchup, doesn’t

VACougMD

Jan 2, 7:16am

Spot on!

Big12Yfan

Jan 2, 7:35am

Our offense was not good enough.

Idacoug

Jan 2, 7:49am

I agree with this 100%. Here is a great article that explains BYU's redzone and

BYUfannonLDS

Jan 2, 9:09am

I think a healthy Moa and adding Gentry and Ryan can really help us power into

puntersarepeople

Jan 2, 9:31am

It's a great start for sure. I'm probably in the minority, but I'd love to see

BYUfannonLDS

Jan 2, 9:46am

We also played ASU with their best WR - Tyson. He was a problem for our D.

Papichulo

Jan 2, 8:27am

This post is the best argument for BYU being the best team in the B12 at the end

RUNBYU1

Jan 2, 9:08am

BYU fans need to accept that we lost.

Frustrated Coug

Jan 2, 8:35am

The best team

deljdc

Jan 2, 8:57am

And they all lost at least twice on the field, so you can debate it from there.

dYrtbYkerYder

Jan 2, 8:59am

ASU given Head to Head against us

TheHop

Jan 2, 9:41am

Northern Illinois is not a better team than Notre Dame

Still Questing

Jan 2, 10:22am

Disagree, but "Best Team" has nothing to do with it. The team that wins advances

SouthernCoug

Jan 2, 11:45am

I’d say “the best team” is irrelevant. There are just those who win and those who lose. Or at least that’s how it should

mvtoro

Jan 2, 2:04pm

And there are ties, which are broken by tiebreakers, which can be arbitrary.

dYrtbYkerYder

Jan 2, 2:32pm

B12 teams we lost to were 11-7 combined in conf. ASU lost to 9-9 combined.

Rexy Coug

Jan 2, 2:47pm

I think we should've gotten in over Iowa State.

dYrtbYkerYder

Jan 2, 2:49pm

It’s a question of whether it’s more important to beat good teams or lose to good teams. The answer to that is arbitrary

mvtoro

Jan 2, 3:03pm

Tiebreakers may be arbitrarily established, but almost always objective when utilized. Meaning they are designed to try

mvtoro

Jan 2, 3:01pm

Will be interesting to see where BYU and ASU end up in the final rankings for this year. BYU is going to move way up

MT Ortho Coug

Jan 2, 9:00am

ASU should be right close to Texas

44C

Jan 2, 9:08am

We get to at least 12, but hoping for 9.

MT Ortho Coug

Jan 2, 10:06am

I think BYU was the best team when playing their best. But BYU laid a few eggs

mudpupper

Jan 2, 9:14am

I wonder if BYU would've made the playoff if we had played Utah in the last game

dYrtbYkerYder

Jan 2, 9:32am

BYU was a great team this year. So was ASU. And Iowa State.

BYU Fan

Jan 2, 11:09am

In that moment. The ball bounces crazy some times

niqmadu

Jan 2, 11:40am

ASU earned the conference title and represented well in the CFP. Insisting that

WillsPitStop

Jan 2, 11:40am

But we were better than SMU.

dYrtbYkerYder

Jan 2, 12:23pm

No argument there. I was only referring to ASU.

WillsPitStop

Jan 2, 1:38pm

I think it's clear BYU and ASU were the two best teams in the conference and both should have been in the CFP.

Spiff

Jan 2, 12:29pm

I agree when you look at the whole season. Too bad we didnt show up against ASU

Tuskaloosa Cougar

Jan 2, 12:41pm

AZDevil gives you a thumbs down…

Brandoblueblood

Jan 2, 2:19pm

If you can make the argument that the KU game was something of a fluke coming

Mitty

Jan 3, 12:55pm

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