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Jan 1, 2025
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cwilke1
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The face mask is part of the helmet
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Targeting no-call against Texas: there is an argument that it wasn’t targeting
Skeptical Optimist
Truly Addicted User
Jan 1, 6:56pm
There's a better argument. SEC home cooking.
hebercreeper
Jan 1, 6:59pm
Arizona State got plenty of close and questionable calls
Coop
Jan 1, 7:02pm
It wasn’t an SEC officiating crew
Skeptical Optimist
Jan 1, 7:17pm
Big Ten and SEC are tighter now than a senior prom queen and her dress.
byujacob
Jan 1, 7:29pm
Don’t agree with what you’re saying at all. This is clear contact to the head on a defenseless player which is targeting
yapacoug
Jan 1, 7:00pm
It’s isn’t clear where the forcible contact was made
Skeptical Optimist
Jan 1, 7:09pm
Yep. In the speeds on this video, the helmet to helmet contact was the first
Crowd Factor
Jan 1, 7:36pm
I don’t think face mask to face mask contact should be targeting
Coop
Jan 1, 7:01pm
"Minimal contact." That's funny.
Spiff
Jan 1, 7:03pm
He posts a video and claims the opposite of what happened
Plato
Jan 1, 7:23pm
Sure looks forcible to me.
bluesloth
Jan 1, 7:06pm
Forcible contact to the shoulder pad is legal
Skeptical Optimist
Jan 1, 7:11pm
This is a hit to the head:
bluesloth
Jan 1, 7:15pm
Yeah. No shoulder pad there. Helmet to helmet. Defenseless player. Review booth missed the call
TADOW
Jan 1, 7:17pm
That video doesn’t show where the forcible contact was made, you can’t see the front of his
Skeptical Optimist
Jan 1, 7:21pm
What? That is absolutely forcible contact to the head. Not sure what definition
bluesloth
Jan 1, 7:25pm
The NCAA defines it as “going beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball”
Skeptical Optimist
Jan 1, 7:35pm
The two angles you showed were absolutely clear that d hit with facemask first
cwilke1
Jan 1, 7:40pm
You need X-ray vision to see through the Texas defenders shoulder to see where contact was first made
Skeptical Optimist
Jan 1, 7:52pm
You just need to look at the screen of the two different angles shown to easily
cwilke1
Jan 1, 7:54pm
What are you watching or looking at? No way you are able to make your
Crowd Factor
Jan 1, 7:39pm
I definitely don't want that to be targeting.
JuicyJam
Jan 1, 7:07pm
Looks like forcible head to head to contact to me.
TailgateU
Jan 1, 7:08pm
I know this isn’t a factor for targeting, but the fact that the ball was tipped
garyfan
Jan 1, 7:10pm
All I know is I’ve seen a lot less egregious hits be called than that.
The Pope
Jan 1, 7:22pm
It is such a wildly, inconsistently called penalty. As soon as it happened as I said to myself:
TheLoneCougar
Jan 1, 7:24pm
That’s the problem here. Plays like that do get called all the time
Skeptical Optimist
Jan 1, 7:38pm
Wouldn't have mattered anyway. Their kicker would've missed the FG.
ShinobiCoug
Jan 1, 7:25pm
They would have had 1st down in Texas territory. Possible TD.
garyfan
Jan 1, 7:35pm
It's possible but I suspect they wouldn't have scored in remaining 50 seconds
cwilke1
Jan 1, 7:38pm
Wow, I suppose that since a few downs weren't productive we should just ignore
TailgateU
Jan 1, 10:59pm
that's not what I said. I am arguing in favor that the refs should have called
cwilke1
Jan 1, 11:05pm
There may be credible argument but you're not making it
Remigius
Jan 1, 7:28pm
I’m not arguing that there wasn’t forcible contact to the head or neck area. I’m arguing that there isn’t conclusive
Skeptical Optimist
Jan 1, 7:42pm
Apparently not all of us...
SoCalCoug
Jan 1, 7:47pm
Me reading posts from people who don’t see clear helmet to helmet contact:
bluesloth
Jan 1, 7:52pm
Define forcible contact, or rather tell me the NCAA's definition of it. It doesn't exist. That's why it's subjective.
Radioactive Coug
Jan 1, 10:25pm
The face mask is part of the helmet
cwilke1
Jan 1, 7:32pm
A key part of the rule: “When in question, it is a foul.”
Odysseus
Jan 1, 8:28pm
This is the strongest case against an ambiguous definition of forcible contact.
Radioactive Coug
Jan 1, 10:27pm
Yup. It was targeting. How many here would have been angry if it was called?
Borg
Jan 1, 10:29pm
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