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Oct 24, 2024
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HeyU
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I’m assuming you’ve been betting and getting burned by BYU all year! A bit salty
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Something is off if a #11 ranked team is not favored against an unranked team.
TheNerd
Oct 23, 3:09pm
Vegas and the computers don't seem to like BYU. We had our biggest spread last
BYUheaven
Oct 23, 3:10pm
What's not to like? We're 6-1 against the spread.
CougarTwins
Oct 23, 3:11pm
I am aware....we killed the spread the first 6 games and then they gave us the
BYUheaven
Oct 23, 3:18pm
Call me crazy, but I believe it comes down to Vegas/media not…
xgbs
Oct 23, 9:09pm
This will be me after BYU wins on Saturday
cougarmeister
Oct 23, 3:12pm
I think you are on to something - but maybe we're both paranoid
StoneyCurtis
Oct 23, 7:16pm
Agreed--we're the only ranked team playing on the road against a lower ranked
LosAlcoug
Oct 23, 3:14pm
Vegas’ goal isn’t to predict the outcome of games. Its goal is to get 50% of the money on Team A and 50% of the money
RealTaysomHill
Oct 23, 3:17pm
Correction: Vegas' goal is to make money.
CascadeBYUFan
Oct 23, 3:39pm
Right but having 50 percent of action on
NYCougz
Oct 23, 3:45pm
And they do that by bringing in relatively even money on both sides of a bet.
russkiejedi
Oct 23, 4:14pm
Well yeah. That’s like me saying “Five Guys tries to make good food” and you saying “actually they’re trying to make $”
RealTaysomHill
Oct 23, 4:55pm
If I understand this correctly BYU would always be rated worse because they
HeyU
Oct 23, 4:21pm
You did not understand correctly
RealTaysomHill
Oct 23, 4:42pm
What I’m saying is BYU has the fewest fans that bet and a majority of fans bet
HeyU
Oct 23, 5:03pm
I disagree that a majority of fans bet on their favorite team. I would bet that 95% of people gambling on a given game
RealTaysomHill
Oct 23, 5:06pm
Even if you’re right, don’t you think a systematic 5% difference would result in
chilawcoug
Oct 23, 10:35pm
Initially sure that is possible, but professional gamblers would have picked up
Ozymandias
12:50am
I disagree. I think it makes a difference hence this convo
HeyU
7:22am
If you truly believe this, why have you not wagered.
Ozymandias
9:11am
Principles, life ain’t about $. I don’t bet.
HeyU
9:16am
I agree the Twain quote definitely applies to you.
Ozymandias
12:48pm
I’m assuming you’ve been betting and getting burned by BYU all year! A bit salty
HeyU
3:37pm
You are comparing investors to non-bettors
XXL
3:39pm
You don’t get it. I am comparing markets that have a line that moves based on
HeyU
3:50pm
Oh, I finally get it
XXL
4:51pm
It’s an explanation of a contributing factor for being 6-1 v the spread.
HeyU
5:56pm
That's right. I forgot that this was the year BYU fans stopped gambling.
XXL
6:13pm
That could actually be kind of a thing. I remember reading an article about
DescdentCoug
Oct 23, 9:51pm
Do you think only fans bet on their team?
zsmooth
Oct 23, 5:03pm
Doesn’t have to be only…not sure what your point is
chilawcoug
Oct 23, 10:35pm
My point is that betters bet on who they believe will win, not who they’re a fan of.
zsmooth
1:10pm
^^^ This. Vegas wants money from gamblers. Most BYU fans don’t gamble.
TrueBlue58
Oct 23, 7:13pm
Plus the BYU fan base is less likely to gamble than the general population
Blue chunks
Oct 23, 8:08pm
First, Vegas doesn't use voter polls when setting an initial spread
Indy Coug
Oct 23, 3:21pm
BYU's good. UCF was supposed to be really good – the pieces are there. BYU has
Benfica1
Oct 23, 3:22pm
I won’t bet money on it either because gambling is bad.
m_beav
Oct 23, 6:49pm
If I were to bet, I would bet against BYU. That way, win or lose, I’m happy.
Boring
Oct 23, 9:43pm
Those that know the records of teams that travel 2 time zones know there are
rcbyufan
Oct 23, 3:24pm
Oregon's win against Purdue bucks the 2 time zone rule. Washington holds serve
rcbyufan
Oct 23, 3:32pm
Miami's near loss to Cal supports the rule because that game should not have even been close.
scall
Oct 23, 3:36pm
There's just something about it. The breakup of the Pac 12 is going to give us
rcbyufan
Oct 23, 3:49pm
It's going to be fascinating to watch really.
scall
Oct 23, 3:55pm
That's a fair point, so rankings should have an asterisk to indicate that it is
TheNerd
Oct 23, 3:33pm
I'm just saying that gamblers seem to know about this "rule". Home team gets
rcbyufan
Oct 23, 3:37pm
I also think that BYU getting an extra day (played last Friday) is a big deal
rcbyufan
Oct 23, 3:41pm
Vegas does a pretty amazing job, I don’t know if it’s five old guys setting the
RC Vikings
Oct 23, 3:26pm
See #10 Michigan @ unranked Washington earlier this season
CycloneCoug
Oct 23, 3:28pm
Our Stat line isn't great... in fact the 2 stat lines were we are excelling at is Pass Efficienc Defense and Turnovers..
Coug
Oct 23, 3:33pm
So if BYU can exploit turnovers and exploit their weak passing defense then BYU could end up winning this game
DJROSS
Oct 23, 10:21pm
Do you know how often that happens with betting odds?
cougXor
Oct 23, 4:18pm
RE: Something is off if a #11 ranked team is not favored against an unranked
Cbmurphy
Oct 23, 4:18pm
Nothing is off..... You don't gamble.....
cougarmelt
Oct 23, 4:25pm
This. betters move the lines. Vegas can’t lose if it’s equally bet on. -110
Tuskaloosa Cougar
Oct 23, 6:16pm
If you're convinced it's off it seems like easy money to be made 🙂
JupiterJones
Oct 23, 4:47pm
It happens. Reminds me of 2015, when unranked USC was favored against #3 Utah
krindorr
Oct 23, 5:25pm
Dang beat me too it lol
uteman13
Oct 23, 5:30pm
In 2015. #3 Utah played unranked USC and USC was favored. We ended up getting
uteman13
Oct 23, 5:29pm
I actually like it. Anything to keep this team humble and hungry.
Thrill
Oct 23, 5:39pm
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phippsd
Oct 23, 5:54pm
AP voters are supposed to vote based on more than who they think is better
phippsd
Oct 23, 6:00pm
Love it. We need the disrespect. 💪🏼🤙🏼 Use it.
APowerfulY
Oct 23, 6:11pm
You see it often in SEC. Ranked teams vs teams with mediocre records can be
Tuskaloosa Cougar
Oct 23, 6:14pm
If it makes no sense, that's easy money for you
XXL
Oct 23, 7:04pm
How dinged up is Jake?
chirocoug
Oct 23, 7:35pm
While I agree with everything you said...
NotoriousBUD
Oct 23, 7:59pm
They disagree and the fact is, Vegas might be right. It's a guess.
Plantagenet
Oct 23, 8:19pm
Easy money then. Place a bet.
Vert der Frick
Oct 23, 8:20pm
BYU fans generally don't bet to even it out.
Blue Ghost
Oct 23, 8:28pm
Vegas doesn't control where the AP ranks each team
archie
Oct 23, 9:17pm
Unless we are able to force multiple turnovers that spot us the ball on the 10 yard line, it will be a battle… our
crm48
Oct 23, 10:28pm
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