Anti-free market, maybe. Capitalist means something else.

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Sep 19, 2024
7:24:47am

OrsoNero Truly Addicted User

Anti-free market, maybe. Capitalist means something else.

There's nothing incompatible about capitalism itself and monopolies, non-transparent pricing, etc. It can either work within a free market system or subvert it depending on the situation. Like the Uber model, or Microsoft Windows, or other efforts to capture and control a given market.

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OrsoNero

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Just got back from getting kid stitches in ER. Any guesses on how

cougarfann888

Sep 19, 1:08am

4 cost me 3K, Problem is we took our kid for 2 times for stitches before getting that first bill.

KYU

Sep 19, 1:16am

Oof I was hoping for under 1k. I was thinking 1500 would be high end

cougarfann888

Sep 19, 1:16am

Yeah I don't think you can sniff the inside of the ER for less than $1k

goidcougs

Sep 19, 1:35am

I’m pretty sure most ERs have a $1k ER fee just for using it.

Pepe

Sep 19, 6:45am

RE: Oof I was hoping for under 1k. I was thinking 1500 would be high end

imdocrob

Sep 19, 12:26pm

RE: 4 cost me 3K, Problem is we took our kid for 2 times for stitches before getting that first bill.

KYU

Sep 19, 1:17am

Why so much?

bday

Sep 19, 1:25am

Because you have a lower deductible with your insurance.

TANK

Sep 19, 1:37am

because there were 10 people in the waiting room and I was the only responsible person in the group. So I had to pay

KYU

Sep 19, 2:13am

RE: because there were 10 people in the waiting room and I was the only

dtrom34

Sep 19, 11:53am

Or did I misconstrue your message, and you literally paid for 10 people?

dtrom34

Sep 19, 11:56am

RE: Or did I misconstrue your message, and you literally paid for 10 people?

KYU

Sep 19, 9:54pm

Do you not know what a responsible party is in the context of healthcare?

KYU

Sep 19, 2:39pm

RE: Do you not know what a responsible party is in the context of healthcare?

imdocrob

Sep 19, 3:25pm

RE: because there were 10 people in the waiting room and I was the only

imdocrob

Sep 19, 12:27pm

Honestly depends if you have insurance. If you have no insurance plan to pay under $1k. If you have insurance they

TANK

Sep 19, 1:35am

My Daughter got 3 stitches at an instacare 2 months ago. $175 total.

robear16

Sep 19, 5:33am

My Obamacare deductible is $6500, so do I lie and tell them I don’t have

Iman23

Sep 19, 6:26am

You don't have to lie. You don't have to say you don't have insurance. You can just say you'll be paying out of pocket,

supertux

Sep 19, 6:35am

This. We do this from time to time, esp if it's for something not covered by our insurance. We've never been questioned

unctoothman

Sep 19, 6:52am

The offices giving a clear cost is the problem. They can't. They won't. Or

Iman23

Sep 19, 9:21am

RE: The offices giving a clear cost is the problem. They can't. They won't. Or

unctoothman

Sep 19, 11:28am

Depends on whether you will eventually pay the full deductible. My wife and son

NYC and Japan

Sep 19, 7:21am

One of my kids had surgery recently. The hospital required me to call in advance to get a financial estimate.

Black Diamond Bay

Sep 19, 2:48am

So you still haven't seen the final number?

RexIdaCoug

Sep 19, 6:35am

How would he know it’s the final number? Another bill may just show up. You

DiamondMo

Sep 19, 9:22am

*she

RexIdaCoug

Sep 19, 11:02am

RE: *she

DiamondMo

Sep 19, 3:53pm

No, this is Hawaii, I may not see a bill for months.

Black Diamond Bay

Sep 19, 11:06am

And to complicate things they aren't the only provider for your 1 procedure

j20

Sep 19, 7:28am

You didn't have this option at 3am, but when I needed stitches a few years ago

willkie40

Sep 19, 3:15am

Urgent Care clinics are the best option. Cheaper and faster. Had my hand stitche

cougfrvr

Sep 19, 5:06am

This is why I just used butterfly bandage under my eye last week when dude split it open with his elbow at bball. I knew

supertux

Sep 19, 3:52am

US Healthcare system is enough to make people want socialized medicine.

Shore10

Sep 19, 4:54am

I am already there. What we have now is absolutely awful.

Iman23

Sep 19, 5:03am

When Hillary was working on healthcare

dratax

Sep 19, 5:34am

The lack of transparency to the consumer is criminal.

Iman23

Sep 19, 6:23am

RE: US Healthcare system is enough to make people want socialized medicine.

Recipefordisaster

Sep 19, 6:06am

Just remember our elected officials could fix it. They choose not to.

Recipefordisaster

Sep 19, 6:07am

Only 31 out of 32 developed countries have universal care. We should wait 😉

Dataguy

Sep 19, 6:28am

It’s intentionally been slowly set up for this

maxpowers

Sep 19, 7:14am

I am not informed enough to agree or disagree. But the people who set it up...

Shore10

Sep 19, 8:10pm

100%.. and if we went true two-tier the vast majority here would get better

cougfanz

Sep 19, 7:36am

this is de facto socialized medicine. It certainly is NOT a clear free market.

niqmadu

Sep 19, 9:00am

We should look closer at the German open-market system, which sounds superior

Mitty

Sep 19, 4:55pm

How many times did they ask how it happened? At least 6?

BlueFreak

Sep 19, 5:30am

Definitely at least 6

cougarfann888

Sep 19, 8:05am

My gues. 750 for ER. 750 for doc

niqmadu

Sep 19, 5:34am

Despite what the bill says, ER doc gets around $100. Rest goes to the hospital.

VACougMD

Sep 19, 6:27am

I always got two bills. One fore the hospital and one fore the physiscian group

niqmadu

Sep 19, 6:49am

Just trying to provide perspective as an ER doc. Usually 95-98% of an ER bill

VACougMD

Sep 19, 7:17am

I absolutely believe it.

niqmadu

Sep 19, 8:58am

the doc get paid for the shift too though

JOPE

Sep 19, 8:35am

The money that pays for the doc's shift comes from the money collected from the bills they send out.

Sep 20, 6:00pm

For future reference,

MaxWasRight

Sep 19, 6:15am

Did they treat you like a child abuser? Did they have three different

Mister P

Sep 19, 6:52am

Not when our kid was at the ER getting a forehead stitched up from a baseball bad and being evaluated for concussion

unctoothman

Sep 19, 6:56am

Just paid $1800 for that situation.

dtownCoug

Sep 19, 6:59am

Lack of price transparency and insurance are the most anti-capitalist force in

CornfedCougar

Sep 19, 7:09am

Anti-free market, maybe. Capitalist means something else.

OrsoNero

Sep 19, 7:24am

Fair point. Undermining the free market is a better way to word it. The message,

CornfedCougar

Sep 19, 7:44am

Exactly, why can't it work more like car insurance? We all just shop around and

Mitty

Sep 19, 8:23am

Are ‘kid stitches’ less expensive than ‘adult stitches’?

m0resn0w

Sep 19, 7:27am

18 months from now, let us know how much it cost you.

orangepitbull

Sep 19, 8:10am

One of my business ideas- hire an NP to cover mobile stitching throughout

cougfanz

Sep 19, 8:14am

Did your child get sedation?

hunkahunka

Sep 19, 9:43am

No sedation, just me pinning him down while he screamed the whole time.

cougarfann888

Sep 19, 10:03am

depends on your insurance. Wouldn't cost me dime right now bc we have reached our out of pocket

BYU Grounds

Sep 19, 9:53am

$2900

Magneto

Sep 19, 10:57am

The ER is rough because you pay for emergent care, not the stitches. I wish I

EDthoracotomy

Sep 19, 6:54pm

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