Then what do you mean by always having “every receiver marked presnap”? In every defense I’ve been a part of “marking”

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Sep 17, 2024
12:46:00pm

mvtoro Scrub

Then what do you mean by always having “every receiver marked presnap”? In every defense I’ve been a part of “marking”

a receiver presnap means taking your man assignment for him. Maybe you’re using it to just mean identify who the possible eligible receivers are on this play for a zone defense? That’s not how most zones run, but it again sounds like you’re taking about man aren’t you?

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The Keanu Hill TD play design was a thing of beauty.

IdahoCoug Truly Addicted User

Sep 17, 9:35am

Can't remember the last time I saw an easier touchdown

Knee Brace

Sep 17, 9:37am

Here's a reminder

SV72 Sale

Sep 17, 9:41am

That's a great one

Knee Brace

Sep 17, 9:42am

Oh man. That was a good one.

byujacob

Sep 17, 9:49am

I've been critical of Arod, but that definitely WAS a thing of beauty.

jtm0001

Sep 17, 9:39am

If we pay attention, everytime ARod runs a gadget play, it's from something

1984coug

Sep 17, 9:58am

Kinda like setting up 1 in 9 3rd down conversions by throwing 5 yds short of the

jtm0001

Sep 17, 10:02am

kind of like being 9/11 on 4th down conversion because of it

1984coug

Sep 17, 11:05am

9 of 11 is because: WY and NIL. If we're 82% at season's end, you may be right.

jtm0001

Sep 17, 11:18am

It's situational... Let's say it's 3rd and 9+

1984coug

Sep 18, 11:16am

I've always been a fan of delayed TE / RB routes

darkcoug

Sep 17, 9:39am

I really like when we run middle TE screen . . . It’s awesome

LakeshowCougs

Sep 17, 9:41am

I will never understand a defense that doesn't have all eligible receivers

Corn Pop

Sep 17, 9:40am

Defending straight up is a very hard thing to do

darkcoug

Sep 17, 9:42am

Many times a player has multiple responsibilities

Sep 17, 9:43am

The block and delayed route is designed for that. The defender isn't just

LifeLongLakerFan

Sep 17, 9:44am

Understood, but if the QB is still holding the ball and the TE is still an

Corn Pop

Sep 17, 9:47am

Because that is not the LBer's only job.

LifeLongLakerFan

Sep 17, 9:52am

Awesome. Who's job was it, then?

Corn Pop

Sep 17, 9:55am

Why the attitude? The TE is not that LBer's only job.

LifeLongLakerFan

Sep 17, 10:54am

Great. So who did he pass him off to?

Corn Pop

Sep 17, 11:07am

The DE who is being blocked by him.

LifeLongLakerFan

Sep 17, 11:17am

The DE ran to the middle of the line at the snap. The LB then runs up, engages

Corn Pop

Sep 17, 11:25am

Watch the play a few times. Watch what each guy does.

IdahoCoug

Sep 17, 11:25am

So they had one guy in charge of covering 2 guys? You can try and sell it all

Corn Pop

Sep 17, 11:35am

Why can't you just accept that the LB defending him had two jobs?

IdahoCoug

Sep 17, 11:45am

Why can't you accept that it's stupid to blitz if it leads to absolutely nobody

Corn Pop

Sep 17, 12:28pm

Okay, I get it. You would be a read and react DC if you were one.

IdahoCoug

Sep 17, 12:31pm

Well that's a fairly dumb reply. Well designed blitzes don't leave receivers

Corn Pop

Sep 17, 12:38pm

So you believe in playing man coverage 100% of the time. That’s what you’re saying. Someone “assigned” to the TE whether

mvtoro

Sep 17, 12:07pm

That's not what I've said at all. I've said that all eligible receivers should

Corn Pop

Sep 17, 12:34pm

Then what do you mean by always having “every receiver marked presnap”? In every defense I’ve been a part of “marking”

mvtoro

Sep 17, 12:46pm

Marked, identified, whatever you term you want to use. That particular Wyoming

Corn Pop

Sep 17, 1:07pm

So you’re just saying, if you’re going to run man coverage on any given play, you should make sure each player stays on

mvtoro

Sep 17, 1:19pm

This is such a weird hill for you to die on. And dying you are. College

LifeLongLakerFan

Sep 17, 12:22pm

There were two LBs probably sharing responsibility for Hill on that play

zuko

Sep 17, 9:46am

Ya, great play call, great patience by Hill to delay/sell the blocking.

Captain Stubing

Sep 17, 10:51am

I think to say you should just "account for every receiver" dramatically

shoganai

Sep 17, 9:50am

This “shadowing one guy” is just “man” coverage, and there’s more than one reason that teams don’t run it every play.

mvtoro

Sep 17, 12:10pm

Yep, not saying that at all.

Corn Pop

Sep 17, 12:40pm

I think that’s where you’re missing us then, because it sounds like you’re saying each defender is marking a receiver

mvtoro

Sep 17, 1:10pm

The man who was guarding him had blitz responsibility if he blocks. Keanu

Adwight

Sep 17, 9:53am

And the slot receiver breaking out must have drawn in the safety. Great design

zuko

Sep 17, 9:41am

Yeah, but used it a week too early (tic, kind of)

SV72 Sale

Sep 17, 9:44am

Kody's touchdown was smart too.

JuicyJam

Sep 17, 9:47am

ARod is really good at designing those plays.

allaboutthegainz

Sep 17, 10:05am

I'm glad he got that score before they almost murdered him.

TailgateU

Sep 17, 11:11am

This is why ARod sends guys in motion so often. To discover if the defense is in

Loafer

Sep 17, 11:23am

He’s also run a variation

I'mBatman

Sep 17, 12:04pm

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