Straw-hat accusing CB of making straw-man arguments. LOL.

But are we surprised? They have this anti churchy complex that’s just insane.

bornbyu93

Sep 12, 11:06pm

They seem to think you either have to be LDS or LSD. You can just be a

ballen

Sep 12, 11:11pm

RE: They seem to think you either have to be LDS or LSD. You can just be a

bornbyu93

Sep 12, 11:13pm

Yet they forget their president and

airbug

Sep 12, 11:25pm

I honestly bet they are probably alright outside of playing byu

conetah

Sep 13, 5:48am

Nope, their fans are who they are because of the not BYU thing but

travelcoug

Sep 13, 7:45am

at the special event center last year

44C

Sep 13, 8:18am

It is not just vs BYU. It is at its worst vs BYU. It is alcohol induced where I

Cougarbib

Sep 13, 9:43am

I believe it must come from some societal implications of living in predominant

Robert Baratheon

Sep 13, 7:36am

Can we be friends?

NonmormonYfan89

Sep 13, 10:05am

Only if you tailgate

bornbyu93

Sep 13, 10:18am

That’s my problem, I’ve not been able to find any like minded Y fans.

NonmormonYfan89

Sep 13, 10:26am

I’ll look into setting up at lot 18 for the Kstate game and DM you

bornbyu93

Sep 13, 12:07pm

I think there are several on this board like you my friend! Seek them out!

ColonelMustard

Sep 13, 5:32pm

Oh man virginute’s cussin at me on DM’s boys

bornbyu93

Sep 13, 9:31pm

Mission accomplished...you got to him

CLCougar

Sep 13, 10:44pm

RE: Mission accomplished...you got to him

bornbyu93

Sep 14, 12:42am

VirginiaUte is the best kind of ALUF

stoils

Sep 14, 11:26am

I've been attending Utah home games for over 40 years and rarely is vulgarity an

hebercreeper

Sep 12, 11:12pm

Who wants to demonize the Utah fan base?

DirtyWater

Sep 12, 11:17pm

40 year Utah season ticket holder and posting on a BYU fan board?

GMGlenn

Sep 13, 7:02am

He doesn't go to Utah's message board because of the vulgarity of the posters.

John Doe

Sep 13, 10:18am

I hope your friend

hereforlaughs

Sep 12, 11:18pm

I've attended loads of SEC games. Only Death Valley (LSU)...

Mississippi

Sep 13, 12:02pm

There’s a huge difference between playing a team once vs playing them every

bookofdaniel

Sep 13, 12:08pm

Have you ever left anything on the West Concourse?

GSwarriorcoug

Sep 12, 11:18pm

Yeah besides thousands yelling F Baylor last week.

BYU '80

Sep 12, 11:34pm

Ouch. Game set match there.

TADOW

Sep 13, 9:21am

Ignorance is bliss

bornbyu93

Sep 12, 11:35pm

So much vulgarity at every Ute game I have attended. Raining down on my

Big Daddy D

Sep 12, 11:39pm

That's too bad. You should come sit by me. I promise not to pour beer on you.

hebercreeper

Sep 12, 11:41pm

You utes are such trash man😂

bornbyu93

Sep 12, 11:47pm

The deflection and denial is strong. There is nothing that will happen

BYU '80

Sep 13, 9:39am

What about disparaging Max Hall's mom?

BYU Grounds

Sep 13, 10:05am

“but the reality is that most Utah fans are are polite and respectful”

Flyski

Sep 12, 11:43pm

Here’s an experiment: Wear a BYU hat and t-shirt to the next home game.

HiLife

Sep 13, 12:03am

Then do the opposite. I have first hand experience with bringing UU fans to game

BlueTooth

Sep 13, 7:56am

I'll pitch in $100 if you wear a hidden camera and microphone!

BYU Grounds

Sep 13, 10:06am

My old boss was a long-time season ticket holder up there

Carnac

Sep 13, 12:17am

I sat mid-field among the rich boosters east side. It was terrible. I would

Cougarbib

Sep 13, 12:45am

Tailgate kit?

RoboKayne

Sep 13, 7:41am

Not that they couldn't find a way, haha.

RoboKayne

Sep 13, 7:47am

Autocorrect issue. Tailgating is what was intended. Nothing about a kit.

Cougarbib

Sep 13, 9:48am

Dang it. I didn't mean to be a pedant. I was honestly hoping they gave you some

RoboKayne

Sep 13, 11:46am

They did set out a tray of Condoms at the USC Trojans game.

Cougarbib

Sep 13, 3:04pm

I haven’t been back to RES since 2008. Last straw for me.

SierraCoug

Sep 13, 12:48am

As a BYU fan that has attended a BYU vs Utah game

Lavell4life

Sep 13, 2:05am

Hard to judge a fan base just based on their rivalry game.

conetah

Sep 13, 5:44am

We can judge them by lots of games. Last week as an example

BYU '80

Sep 13, 9:41am

I’m sorry, chanting F U is pretty minor imo. Happens all the time in basketball

conetah

Sep 13, 9:59am

And this is why Huntsman center has curtains and empty seats. U fans do

Cougarbib

Sep 13, 10:01am

Happens all the time in a lot of basketball arenas

conetah

Sep 13, 10:21am

They don’t have curtains. When you offend more than half of your fanbase,

Cougarbib

Sep 13, 10:26am

This isn’t why their arena is empty.

conetah

Sep 13, 10:51am

U don’t know the silent majority of your fanbase.

Cougarbib

Sep 13, 3:05pm

wut? Utah would fill an LES size stadium every game

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 11:04am

That explains why they haven’t built one…..wait….no, it doesn’t.

Cougarbib

Sep 13, 4:50pm

and?

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 6:20pm

The demand is there for the relatively small stadium you have. A larger stadium

Cougarbib

Sep 14, 11:16am

No comparison. And not just that one game. I have degrees from both

Cougarbib

Sep 13, 9:51am

Yeah but

Lavell4life

Sep 13, 7:04pm

+1. Also, the rivalry game I remember at LES had a lot of Ute fans there. I

RoboKayne

Sep 13, 7:37pm

Ute fans hate the church first and hate byu second. Ute fandom is unimportant

shammy

Sep 13, 5:43am

Could be a segment of Utes for sure but there is also a segment who are

conetah

Sep 13, 5:46am

The ones who are respectful never do anything about bad behavior from the Church

CameronG

Sep 13, 9:21am

Kinda like our fans or any fans in any area of the country.

conetah

Sep 13, 10:00am

Those people are drowned out by the others. I have an entire extended

BYU '80

Sep 13, 9:42am

And yet, y’all’s “majority” does next to nothing to push back

cajuncoug

Sep 13, 6:14am

The F-you Baylor chant went unnoticed by you?

CougStuckOnTheHill

Sep 13, 7:12am

Attending wearing Red, yea you are one of them. Try wearing BYU gear in a

Blue for Life

Sep 13, 8:09am

Challenge: Go to a game wearing a BYU shirt or hat and just observe.

Thrill

Sep 13, 9:38am

Well, Amanda Dickson at KSL wasn't to happy with the atmosphere.

KCFan85

Sep 13, 12:36pm

Agree. I don’t think lead story is true.

Love Cougs

Sep 13, 1:35pm

Interesting. My brother used to be a fan and go during the MWC days. Against TCU

Benfica1

Sep 13, 2:08pm

I’ve been in the north end zone at Utah vs BYU. I was treated with kindness and

44C

Sep 13, 12:02am

The worst environment I’ve ever been in was the Swamp a couple years ago. We

hebercreeper

Sep 13, 12:06am

RE: The worst environment I’ve ever been in was the Swamp a couple years

bornbyu93

Sep 13, 5:03am

I attended many games with my dad over the years

Fido

Sep 13, 6:07am

Of the two dozen or so college stadiums I’ve attended games in, Rice-Eccles is

CougarScrub

Sep 13, 6:20am

of the two dozen or so sports venues I've visited, LES is the only place where

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 6:31am

RE: of the two dozen or so sports venues I've visited, LES is the only place

BoilerCoug815

Sep 13, 7:23am

RE: of the two dozen or so sports venues I've visited, LES is the only place

44C

Sep 13, 7:51am

100% happened. I'm not biased enough to attribute that behavior to other BYU

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 8:06am

I am sorry that happened to you, there are stupid fans for any school. BYU has

Blue for Life

Sep 13, 8:16am

LOL, no need to be sorry, I don't attribute it to anyone but that guy

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 8:34am

BM sent

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 10:12am

Well, that’s what happen when you start dropping your

m0resn0w

Sep 14, 5:29pm

I wish I could say I did something to provoke it

Strawhat4life

Sep 14, 8:02pm

I posted this same story about my mother being hit with a bottle at LES, only

Utefaninenemyland

Sep 13, 4:31pm

Did you just go on your rivals’ message board to defend your fan base’s

CougarScrub

Sep 14, 10:06am

I pointed out I posted basically this same story in reverse on this board a year

Utefaninenemyland

Sep 14, 10:14am

I never called you a liar or questioned your story. Who’s defensive?

CougarScrub

Sep 14, 10:39am

I’m sure there is some pearl clutching going on in this thread

lilpenny

Sep 13, 6:26am

Almost certainly. But Ute fans can still disproportionately suck

cajuncoug

Sep 13, 6:28am

and? What is the benefit of talking about it nonstop on a BYU fan board?

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 8:53am

Well….

cajuncoug

Sep 13, 12:22pm

Nah, I'm not whining. It doesn't bother me

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 1:31pm

There probably is some of that, but you can't ignore the mountains of evidence

TheRefsStink

Sep 13, 8:34am

Nice rationalization

stoils

Sep 13, 8:58am

Aren’t any nicer? Yeah giving ice cream to the entire visiting section happens

BYU '80

Sep 13, 9:46am

Cougarboard

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 6:29am

What does that even mean?

HRCougar

Sep 13, 6:36am

build up the straw man, knock it down

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 8:51am

Honest question, if you think that is all CB is about, why are you on here?

Blue for Life

Sep 13, 1:00pm

Here is a perfect example of a strawman

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 1:41pm

Thanks for answering and I apologize for my mistake of what you said.

Blue for Life

Sep 13, 2:03pm

No problem

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 2:27pm

Straw-hat accusing CB of making straw-man arguments. LOL.

TheRefsStink

Sep 13, 8:37am

you know what they say

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 8:46am

RE: you know what they say

hydro

Sep 13, 1:36pm

Not sure you understand what a strawman is

BYU '80

Sep 13, 9:47am

A strawman is a logical fallacy in argument

Strawhat4life

Sep 13, 9:52am

I'll give the opposite point of view

MyTwoCents

Sep 13, 7:00am

Sounds about right. I have a friend who checks all of your typical die-hard ute

RealComfortableJeans

Sep 13, 7:00am

Either your friend is lying or you're embellishing what he told you

RockyBalboa

Sep 13, 7:02am

No embellishment from me

HRCougar

Sep 13, 7:12am

Then your friend is lying

RockyBalboa

Sep 13, 7:22am

They probably said they wanted it to be rowdy but the school takes pride

BYU '80

Sep 13, 9:48am

Agree. No chance they said "We want it vulgar. That's what we're looking for."

Tricky

Sep 13, 2:49pm

“we actually like it and want it that way.” is completely false. He just needs

NarfUte

Sep 13, 7:10am

Yeah, I suspect that must have been in response to the rowdy part. I could see

BlueTooth

Sep 13, 8:10am

Sure I could see that. I didn't assume Utah was condoning vulgarity per se

HRCougar

Sep 13, 8:29am

I can totally believe they wouldn't move his tickets, for sure. And probably no

BlueTooth

Sep 13, 10:09am

The 95% sure make the 5% look bad up there

travelcoug

Sep 13, 8:01am

While I do think this story is embellished, my husband, a ute, won't go to games with me at RES anymore because of how

TRUE_BLUE_COUGY

Sep 13, 8:09am

I don’t like Utah one bit. But the last sentence of the first paragraph isn’t believable.

Brisco

Sep 13, 8:34am

That story doesn’t sound right.

KYU

Sep 13, 8:40am

“They like it that way” hahah so false. Some of this is true but that last part

bookofdaniel

Sep 13, 8:55am

I actually laughed. The post lost all credibility with that.

Cougstreak

Sep 13, 9:39am

Two comments....

Cougstreak

Sep 13, 9:38am

Beer sprayed on me. Rocks and pennies thrown at me. Silly string sprayed at me.

ugo1st

Sep 13, 9:39am

When I went to a BYU game they turned me into a newt.

utetastic

Sep 13, 12:11pm

"we actually like it that way" bogus, calling cap.

TheLoneCougar

Sep 13, 9:51am

I was once killed at RES. The whole program just needs to be shut down TBH

machete

Sep 13, 9:58am

Did they use a machete?

AFewThoughts

Sep 13, 10:24am

But you're feeling much better now . . .

85fan

Sep 13, 11:38am

My sister was hit in the face with a soda from the BYU student section when she

uteman13

Sep 13, 9:59am

Do you know how those LDS feel on campus? Prejudice. Sidelined. Persecuted?

Dr MoBYU

Sep 13, 10:26am

No. I despise your school

DeepCCoug

Sep 13, 2:24pm

So interesting. All my relationships with people throughout my life in Utah

uteman13

Sep 13, 4:32pm

As long as they aren’t trying to go to the games with their tots painted I’m ok.

NonmormonYfan89

Sep 13, 10:08am

This is Utah university:

Dr MoBYU

Sep 13, 10:28am

Who cares??? Not me

MoscowCoug

Sep 13, 10:30am

I've had the same thing happen at BYU gameS

Mon

Sep 13, 11:47am

Utah vs. BYU is much worse than Texas-Texas A&M or Virginia-Virginia Tech.

DeepCCoug

Sep 13, 2:29pm

Ive missed these CB anecdotal “testimonies” I guess some actually believe em

CorndogStickshift

Sep 13, 6:25pm

So Ute fans who tell them are lying?

Abe Froman

Sep 13, 6:28pm

I went to the BYU vs. Utah game in 2010 (at Utah)

VinnyBYU

Sep 13, 6:43pm

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