I’m not being argumentative- truly trying to understand this point

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Aug 2, 2024
9:09:57pm

VinnyBYU 3rd String

I’m not being argumentative- truly trying to understand this point

You’re saying that donors (“financiers”) weren’t allowed to donate to sports before or that that they weren’t allowed to steer to specific players or work closely with coaches?

Just trying to understand your point better.

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VinnyBYU

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Without game under his belt, how did KY out recruit and sell byu better than MP?

MajorZeus

Aug 2, 5:58pm

I think 3 reasons.

Goatnapper'96

Aug 2, 5:59pm

Follow up. Why didn’t MP have these nice shiny things?

MajorZeus

Aug 2, 6:07pm

Admin didn’t believe he was the long term future of the program

CycloneCoug

Aug 2, 6:12pm

*And higher profile donors

RootieBoy

Aug 2, 6:40pm

This plus other things. Pope wanted to control the money. BYU wanted to control

Frankfromtheballpark

Aug 2, 6:41pm

Kevin Young has a clear vision and a way to see it through. People bought in

44C

Aug 2, 6:45pm

He always had one foot out the door?

Indy Coug

Aug 2, 6:12pm

Why do you think a guy that did this has one foot out the door?

Ojiisan

Aug 2, 6:18pm

President Reese might be more influential than Kevin Young.

Goatnapper'96

Aug 2, 6:32pm

NIL changed/became safer for BYU and Pope leaving scared some people into seeing

gwalker

Aug 2, 7:15pm

Which is not to say I don’t appreciate Kevin Young and what he is doing.

gwalker

Aug 2, 7:16pm

Timing. He did a lot to lay the foundation…

icecougar

Aug 3, 7:23pm

You have them in the opposite order though

fulano

Aug 2, 7:16pm

Those three things are not the diagnosis they are the symptoms

Blue2thebone

Aug 2, 8:30pm

$$$

arcawley

Aug 2, 6:02pm

This takes nothing at all away from KY, but it’s 60%+ because of money

CycloneCoug

Aug 2, 6:05pm

I actually think it is more to do with him and his staff. They have money, but

Cougar TD

Aug 2, 6:13pm

You’re fooling yourself if you don’t think $$$ is the main driver

MwangoleCoug9

Aug 4, 10:02pm

You’re fooling yourself if you don’t think KY is responsible for the uptick in $

GlutealGuy

Aug 4, 10:10pm

He shares a small slice, but this is mainly from Pres. Reese and down

MwangoleCoug9

Aug 4, 10:32pm

Yeah... I've talked to enough people to know it isn't just money

Cougar TD

Aug 4, 10:51pm

Me too

MwangoleCoug9

Aug 4, 11:10pm

Money absolutely factors into it. But this staff is playing a much bigger part

Cougar TD

Aug 4, 11:16pm

I never said the staff wasn’t playing a factor into all this

MwangoleCoug9

Aug 4, 11:21pm

Every big school has money.

idcougarfan

Aug 2, 6:30pm

Yes that’s why they get big recruits

JoeExotic

Aug 2, 6:36pm

How did we get Igor Damon over Arkansas?

Blue2thebone

Aug 2, 8:32pm

$$$$$$$$

MwangoleCoug9

Aug 4, 10:00pm

And the reason it doesn’t take anything away from KY is because the reason that is money is because of KY

Blue2thebone

Aug 2, 8:31pm

He’s doing great things, but I think that’s way too simple an explanation.

gwalker

Aug 2, 8:55pm

That’s just it….you’re putting the cart before the horse…

icecougar

Aug 3, 7:32pm

Financiers. It wasn't just willingness, either. It was the BOT looking the other way. FINALLY.

SinkingQuffa

Aug 2, 6:09pm

What do you mean BOT looking the other way?

VinnyBYU

Aug 2, 8:09pm

By allowing financiers to do — what they haven't been allowed to do in the past.

SinkingQuffa

Aug 2, 8:19pm

You’ve usually got pretty good takes, but this isn’t one of them

Blue2thebone

Aug 2, 8:34pm

I’m not being argumentative- truly trying to understand this point

VinnyBYU

Aug 2, 9:09pm

Yeah, their hands were tied in the specifics. Pope complained of the lack of freedom & transparency.

SinkingQuffa

Aug 2, 9:55pm

This has been discussed before on CB. Donors weren’t allowed to earmark…

icecougar

Aug 3, 7:38pm

To imagine what could be, unburdened by what has been

icecougar

Aug 3, 7:33pm

Don't you dare put that on me!!

SinkingQuffa

Aug 6, 11:55am

Pure fantasy. Very little truth in this post

Blue2thebone

Aug 2, 10:54pm

His ability to sell a vision to NIL donors/ admin carried over to recruits

GlutealGuy

Aug 2, 6:11pm

Amen

44C

Aug 2, 7:28pm

Just what Blue said yesterday

44C

Aug 2, 7:47pm

You couldn’t scrub that cats video from the Internet

Blue2thebone

Aug 2, 7:39pm

A Tale of Two Visions

44C

Aug 2, 7:50pm

Thought that was a lil overboard gay at the time. But maybe not?

SinkingQuffa

Aug 2, 8:40pm

Kevin Young is awesome and we are fortunate to have him but it seems obvious

Rhubarb

Aug 2, 6:11pm

What you say is totally possible. Probably partially correct.

Blue2thebone

Aug 2, 8:38pm

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