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Jul 9, 2024
7:12:22pm

JoeExotic All-American

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If you are good at sales there will be a long line of companies that are willing to pay you $250k+.

The key is you have to prove you are good at sales. Get your foot in the door entry level with a tech company doing BDR work. Prove yourself and you will get promoted quickly.

Most companies hiring tech sales people don’t care and won’t even ask about college if they know you can sell.

There will be a few companies that are strict about a degree. Those are companies I wouldn’t recommend selling for even if a person does have a degree.

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Time

What would you say is the best job for someone that might not find success going

Stucoug83

Jul 9, 6:47pm

Trade school. Electrician, plumber, etc. Better than many college degrees.

Pollster

Jul 9, 6:48pm

Mechanics are doing very well right now too

CSoul

Jul 9, 6:50pm

Talk about jobs that will pay great. There’s money in these

SBB

Jul 9, 6:58pm

HVAC technician

CougaReb

Jul 9, 7:02pm

This

crimedog

Jul 9, 7:18pm

Dudes are all physically wrecked by 45

Jul 9, 7:21pm

This is why he should buy the business from a retiring boomer.

YOHONOMOTO

Jul 9, 7:44pm

HVAC

lightmann

Jul 9, 7:27pm

Electricians working for Data Center construction. I am in the middle of it in

bad84cougar

Jul 10, 5:57pm

Get into a trade, start your own company in 5 years.

GfB

Jul 9, 6:48pm

This is exactly what I would do in those circumstances.

RootieBoy

Jul 9, 6:50pm

Exactly. Trades make good money but make a killing when they run their own shop.

DwigtA2RM

Jul 9, 10:29pm

This is what my brother did. Started in construction doing flooring but

Cougphysio

Jul 10, 1:04pm

Availability bias is a problem here, though. Most people who go into the trades

russkiejedi

Jul 10, 6:42pm

I agree. My brother did not land where he did on accident. He had major

Cougphysio

Jul 10, 10:17pm

Military

Supercoug

Jul 9, 6:49pm

If he is thinking about going to college in the future this is a good option.

kcca

Jul 9, 7:23pm

Yep, I had a friend kind of like the OP son

NaturalNeuralNet

Jul 9, 7:33pm

In Utah look at the M-tech programs. Lots of opportunities there.

BYUtka

Jul 9, 6:49pm

Robot Tech...6 months to a year and he's making $87k or more... He'd get lots of

Don_Juan_El_Guapo

Jul 9, 6:52pm

What types of programs are available for this?

Wizbang

Jul 9, 7:46pm

Welding or machining good $ lots of work

bbhammer

Jul 9, 6:50pm

Sales.

JohnnyComeLately

Jul 9, 6:53pm

IMO sales jobs that don’t require education aren’t typically good jobs. Its

SBB

Jul 9, 6:59pm

I know a guy making over a million per year in sales. He has no college degree

Belboz

Jul 9, 7:02pm

I know plenty of guys making well over 6 figures in sales with no degrees.

JohnnyComeLately

Jul 9, 7:04pm

Disagree completely

JoeExotic

Jul 9, 7:12pm

It's been tough to get started in tech sales over the last few years.

DescdentCoug

Jul 10, 11:04am

The economy for tech sales has been a bit rough last couple years

JoeExotic

Jul 10, 12:16pm

This is as wrong a statement gets. The gifted can make millions in sales as HS dropouts. But for the OP, electrician.

roseyscenario

Jul 9, 9:11pm

There are plenty of exceptions- generally for most it’s not great

SBB

Jul 10, 8:40am

I have worked for major tech companies

JoeExotic

Jul 10, 9:00am

You’re right- everyone should go into sales- these jobs are readily available.

SBB

Jul 10, 9:03am

That is definitely not what I am saying.

JoeExotic

Jul 10, 12:13pm

That’s what I was saying as well. But saying “typically” apparently wasn’t good

SBB

Jul 10, 2:17pm

I disagree with your use of typically as it relates to degree or no degree

JoeExotic

Jul 10, 5:35pm

Instagram influencer, professional gamer, streamer, actor. The possibilities

Nikomedes

Jul 9, 6:53pm

Utah Dept of Corrections starting pay is around $29 per hour right now.

Manti

Jul 9, 6:53pm

And in 10 years the pay will be what? 39 an hour?

Chester Copperpot

Jul 9, 6:57pm

For someone that doesn't want to get an education, $40 per hour and a 25 year

Manti

Jul 9, 7:02pm

Easy way to hack this that I saw someone do once.

rad dawg

Jul 9, 7:04pm

Not corrections, but I know pay is getting more competitive for Law enforcement

BE-WHY-YOU

Jul 10, 7:15am

Trades - electrician, skilled welding, etc

kccougar

Jul 9, 6:53pm

Trade school or apprenticeship. Here is my list off the top of my head:

rad dawg

Jul 9, 6:57pm

College isn’t the only source to good employment. Ac guys can

bald man

Jul 9, 7:00pm

Air traffic control has some really great benefits and pay

Sinbad the Sailor

Jul 9, 7:00pm

But literally the most stressful job in the country.

Manti

Jul 9, 7:04pm

Completely depends on where you’re working. But yes if you’re at a huge airport

Sinbad the Sailor

Jul 9, 7:27pm

School part time get associates

BYU Grounds

Jul 9, 7:01pm

Trade school with goal of owning their own business as quickly as possible

cougfanz

Jul 9, 7:04pm

Is anyone here actually a mechanic, electrician, or plumber?

Jul 9, 7:06pm

CB has a warped sense of how few of them are actually making a ton of money…

Jul 9, 7:24pm

The key to making money in the trades is to become a journeyman.

gopman

Jul 9, 7:42pm

Journeymen do fine. But they're not knocking it out of the park. I see a lot of sub-$100k journeymen.

WDaddy

Jul 10, 4:27pm

I should add the guys who make bank are willing to travel all over

gopman

Jul 9, 7:56pm

This. My step brother is working towards a journeyman electrician.. says many

Lefty24

Jul 10, 1:51pm

Underwater welding. Incredibly dangerous & financially lucrative.

gopman

Jul 10, 3:43pm

$200k-$300k, LOL. Tell him to look at someone's actual paycheck.

WDaddy

Jul 10, 4:24pm

Not sure where you’re going with that. If you disagree with what they make, you

Lefty24

Jul 10, 8:07pm

No but I know a lot of them and use a lot of them.

YOHONOMOTO

Jul 9, 7:49pm

So you have dealt primarily with the owners or managers

Jul 9, 8:05pm

You don’t need a college background but you need to know how to self teach,

YOHONOMOTO

Jul 9, 8:37pm

There are big startup costs for a mechanic to start his own shop

Jul 9, 8:51pm

To be honest, if you're not cut out to succeed in college as OP mentioned

Jul 10, 7:23am

I know tons of ppl who fit that mold and had no interest in college.

YOHONOMOTO

Jul 10, 8:07am

Had a Bishop who drove semis for UPS. Early morning, but a local regular route

Saregreat

Jul 9, 7:06pm

CBP

Jul 9, 7:09pm

Sales

grosven

Jul 9, 7:14pm

Sales. Those guys make more than all my lawyer and doctor friends.

valleus

Jul 9, 8:02pm

Pest control business. Get a job as a tech, learn the business, be friendly to

BYUFBDAD

Jul 9, 8:08pm

I’ve said it before around here, so I’ll just link a post with my thoughts on

stenso

Jul 9, 8:35pm

Yeah this is accurate. Need to have the right personality and skills.

YOHONOMOTO

Jul 9, 8:37pm

That’s the best thing about it. If you can actually communicate you’re light

cougfanz

Jul 9, 9:28pm

Can't read it. Am I blocked?

sah22

Jul 9, 8:42pm

You also have to take into account that the many that go into it

cougfanz

Jul 9, 9:26pm

CNA

NYC and Japan

Jul 10, 7:53am

IMO, college is about learning, but its primary value in employment is to

russkiejedi

Jul 10, 9:01am

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