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Das_Countach
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Uona would be like a Puka or Kingsley (...and maaaaaybe Vaki?)
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A thread of LDS recruits over the years that didn’t choose BYU that might have
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 7:55am
Jake Murphy was a BYU commit IIRC
BYU Statsman
12/5/23 7:58am
If I remember correctly he wanted to be at byu, but we didn’t have a scholarship
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 8:06am
Yeah that’s how I remember it
BYU Statsman
12/5/23 8:07am
He came home early and we didn’t have a scholarship available
molodyets
12/5/23 8:09am
Because he came home early from his mission.
AF_Puma
12/5/23 8:09am
Committed, signed with byu but came home from his mission early and he and dale
1984coug
12/5/23 8:16am
You could add Uona Kaveinga to your list
BYU Statsman
12/5/23 8:06am
Uona would be like a Puka or Kingsley (...and maaaaaybe Vaki?)
Das_Countach
12/5/23 10:11am
I won't even look at this list. Too painful.
Lifer
12/5/23 8:06am
I wish the coaches would to see what might have been if we had put in the effort
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 8:13am
That’s some real revisionist history
molodyets
12/5/23 8:19am
How do you know they didn't put in the effort? You are assuming
Canusa
12/5/23 8:20am
It’s a complete assumption. How many of those do you know the story to? Who was
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 8:35am
there's a perception from a lot of LDS families that BYU needs to bend over
molodyets
12/5/23 10:11am
Bet there’s a lot of truth to that.
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 10:40am
We were heavily pursuing Manti Teo and we thought we had him and then we didn't
AF_Puma
12/5/23 8:11am
Manti told me a few yrs ago that it was always USC for him and ND then stole him
Bluforever
12/5/23 12:13pm
you could say we were... catfished...?
4slyce
12/5/23 12:17pm
Manti told me at first is was Lennay Kekua who had him and then Ronaiah Naya
calvindyer
12/5/23 12:47pm
We heavily recruited Simi Fehoko. Tony Bergstrom was Utah from day 1
Reasonable1
12/5/23 8:16am
Multiple guys on that list were committed at one point and some even signed
molodyets
12/5/23 8:20am
I never said we didn’t. I followed the recruiting process with a lot of the
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 8:41am
You said "might have been ours had wee recruited them better or even offered"
molodyets
12/5/23 10:11am
Exactly “might”
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 10:42am
I see. The way you worded in OP reads like blaming the staff for them, not
molodyets
12/5/23 10:51am
My apologies, probably could have been worded better.
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 10:58am
For sure, it’s assumption. I don’t know who was offered and reached out to.
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 8:38am
RE: A thread of LDS recruits over the years that didn’t choose BYU that
1984coug
12/5/23 8:18am
Thanks, good reply
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 8:42am
It's a long list, but part of that is because it goes back to the 90's w/ Lavell
d-coug
12/5/23 8:19am
And because LaVell only had to truly compete with Utah for LDS recruits for the
Junior Deputy
12/5/23 8:34am
100% we know that he did, it wasn’t saying he never did. But I’m guessing he got
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 8:43am
Missing 1 important variable…interest in BYU
1manwolfpack
12/5/23 8:26am
That’s a great point, how many might have been if we were in the big 12 or
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 8:45am
Most of those were heavily recruited and simply chose to go elsewhere.
Junior Deputy
12/5/23 8:32am
Good to know! Thanks
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 9:11am
There could be a lot of reasons why LDS recruits don't pick BYU as much.
dut99002
12/5/23 8:41am
At least three of these kids signed with BYU. Logan Fano was on the team, then
Captain Stubing
12/5/23 9:44am
Bowles was like Pita…academics kept him out.
BYUHgrad
12/5/23 12:30pm
I thought Bolles was coming to the Y, then his wife wanted him to go to U?
Captain Stubing
12/5/23 12:56pm
Matt Gay was never recruited by BYU. You are missing...
Big-Q
12/5/23 9:47am
RE: Matt Gay was never recruited by BYU. You are missing...
Sport sci
12/5/23 11:05am
I thought Matt Gay was the one who reached out to Bronco, asking for an audition
lilpenny
12/5/23 11:44am
Bronco said on his podcast he never talked to Gay kickers.
calvindyer
12/5/23 12:48pm
That was Phillips. His sister played soccer here at the Y.
Captain Stubing
12/5/23 12:57pm
This is almost what happened. Bronco wasn't that cruel but basically told Matt thank you, but no thank you.
TheLoneCougar
12/5/23 4:10pm
Which was the problem. He “recruited BYU” and didn’t get the time of day.
russkiejedi
12/5/23 11:52am
RE: A thread of LDS recruits over the years that didn’t choose BYU that
TPcoug
12/5/23 10:23am
This has more to do with the culture of people now than coaches or rankings.
Pretorian
12/5/23 10:24am
Star Lotulelei should be on the list, although IIRC he committed to BYU but
BYUVA
12/5/23 10:27am
I'm pretty surprised at the efforts focused on players that BYU
Fido
12/5/23 10:42am
For sure. Not intended to feel like we failed on all.
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 11:01am
That is a good list. I wonder what the list looks for Notre Dame and Catholics
auzziecoug
12/5/23 10:50am
I would think a lot bigger.
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 11:01am
The list is oddly encouraging. And incomplete
cajuncoug
12/5/23 11:01am
Appreciate those thoughts.
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 11:02am
The Sewell boys. All 4 of them would've been starters in Provo
SV72 Sale
12/5/23 11:34am
Anyone have any idea what happened there? Did any have interest in byu?
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 11:51am
Here's the gist...the dad thinks they are bigger than BYU
stansburycoug
12/5/23 1:06pm
Nephi did not serve a mission. And I don't blame anyone for thinking they are
SV72 Sale
12/5/23 1:23pm
You're right, I remembered the xfer thing differently
stansburycoug
12/5/23 2:21pm
That’s too bad
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 4:21pm
RE: A thread of LDS recruits over the years that didn’t choose BYU that might
arizonacougarfan
12/5/23 12:20pm
Bunch of recognizable names there
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 12:41pm
But if Merlin can to byu we wouldn’t have the thor thunder punch….. good trade
Pretorian
12/6/23 12:06pm
This is the first I've ever heard of Adam Archuleta being LDS. If he is/was, he
robin
12/6/23 2:56pm
Thanks for effort pulling together. Thanks for NOT including Scott Mitchell. Several LDS QB's not included are:
CLCougar
12/5/23 12:34pm
You bet, thanks for those added to the list
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/5/23 12:42pm
Najee Harris probably needs to be on the list. According to my source.
MajorZeus
12/5/23 12:36pm
Another sad fact as we look at all these names, as well as those added below, is that the fans of the colleges they went
CLCougar
12/5/23 1:03pm
I made this list back in 2017, its missing a lot since then.
robin
12/5/23 1:09pm
The one consistent link between all of these is
Crowd Factor
12/5/23 1:24pm
WHO CARES!!! MY GOSH!! REALLY!!!
Huck
12/5/23 1:24pm
It makes you sad, does it not.
Big-Q
12/5/23 1:29pm
Add William Kava - had a solid four years at Washington playing OL
pspcres
12/5/23 3:14pm
He wasn’t a starter and played 3 years. He medically retired with a year left
Bobmarleyjr
12/5/23 3:24pm
Will might have started at BYU! if you add his red shirt year, he was
pspcres
12/5/23 3:34pm
Many of these guys had academic concerns. Haloti Ngata and his cousin Simi Moala
Bobmarleyjr
12/5/23 4:57pm
That’s not correct. Ngata was committed to BYU up until signing day when he
robin
12/5/23 6:09pm
Haloti was never coming to BYU and it didn't matter what BYU did or didn't do in the recruiting process.
TheLoneCougar
12/5/23 9:34pm
Todd Heaps was headed to BYU but then honor code. Tony Moeaki was almost at BYU
Bobmarleyjr
12/5/23 3:16pm
Don't know quite who you're referring to, but I don't think it was JHeaps.
d-coug
12/5/23 3:26pm
Maybe Todd Heaps. He was open about the honorcode.
Bullrider
12/5/23 3:50pm
Ooops meant Todd Heaps
Bobmarleyjr
12/5/23 4:58pm
Some on that list were not coming to BYU
Repete397
12/5/23 3:57pm
How many of these players couldn’t get a Bishop’s endorsement?
Bullrider
12/6/23 3:26pm
That’s a good question as well
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/6/23 10:40pm
adding Dallas LLoyd and Brandon Fanaika Stanford
Swishfromdeep3
12/6/23 9:09pm
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