Then what is the motivation for bringing them into an office that they could

Mar 2, 2023
8:19:06pm

Ojiisan All-American

close and get the cost savings?

I think that the bad apples ruined WFH by always being on errands and walking their dogs during working hours and being unavailable

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Appears like WFH is gradually on the decline

greatbam 1% better everyday

3/2/23 8:01pm

I appreciate working for a company that is all in on WFH. The office campus is still there but WFH…

Tokolosh

3/2/23 8:05pm

We are ramping up WFH. Closing offices and going “remote first”

8-track

3/2/23 8:11pm

Which company?

1984coug

3/2/23 9:11pm

Many companies have found that productivity generally goes down with WFH.

John Doe

3/2/23 8:11pm

That sounds suspect.

BYUtka

3/2/23 8:12pm

IMO it's way more productive. You can wash the dishes, fold laundry and babysit between meetings.

Mike Bolton

3/2/23 8:16pm

A good mouse jiggler app helps you appear to be online. You can get so much

Ojiisan

3/2/23 8:21pm

I do that during meetings, do my job the rest of the time

BlueRhino

3/2/23 8:51pm

There are many studies showing the opposite

Skeptical Optimist

3/2/23 8:17pm

Then what is the motivation for bringing them into an office that they could

Ojiisan

3/2/23 8:19pm

Don't understand how many people are blindly committed to traditional "in office

BYUtka

3/2/23 8:24pm

Micromanaging and old school attitude.

spugeddy24

3/2/23 8:35pm

A lot of office workers use their jobs as their entire social life and don’t like heading into empty offices

TCuz

3/2/23 8:36pm

I think there are many companies who don’t know how to manage WFH employees. Our company sold off a bunch of office

Mike Honcho

3/2/23 8:22pm

Many companies have no clue how to measure productivity

Tare

3/2/23 8:33pm

Because I was so effective sitting in 10 hours of meetings per week

1984coug

3/2/23 9:10pm

So now you run errands during those meetings.

John Doe

3/2/23 10:41pm

If it is a virtual meeting that I don't need to be on camera for, yes. That is

1984coug

3/3/23 4:49pm

If they don’t need to be in the office, they can be in India or the Philippians

Acorn

3/2/23 8:25pm

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OnEMoReTrY

3/2/23 8:41pm

My company has designers. We pay a little more for the third party

Acorn

3/2/23 8:46pm

If your company is us based and has India jobs and they won’t let you wfh

1984coug

3/2/23 9:09pm

I really like my job and my company. You seem a bit angry or bitter?

Acorn

3/2/23 10:17pm

For some reason I read that YOUR company does that. I just don’t understand why

1984coug

3/2/23 10:41pm

Some of the departments in my company don’t allow WFH.

Acorn

3/2/23 10:49pm

If you agree to take an India salary then I am sure they would. Working from

johnnybyu

3/2/23 11:14pm

Not nearly that simple and you know it. Time zones are a huge problem.

Mitty

3/3/23 3:58pm

It’s just like business. Some people are good at it. Some aren’t.

Acorn

3/3/23 5:37pm

I work at Microsoft and the company is all in on flexible work. You can choose

OnEMoReTrY

3/2/23 8:32pm

For years it's been understood that flexibility = happier, more productive,

Mitty

3/3/23 3:59pm

WFH makes a lot of sense for many jobs and should stick around.

spugeddy24

3/2/23 8:33pm

I know I am old school but I hate the "flex"

SayMyName

3/2/23 8:39pm

Managing remotely might not be your skill set. Always time to find a new job.

TCuz

3/2/23 8:47pm

Ha, i manage them all just fine, doesn't mean I have to like it. (:

SayMyName

3/2/23 10:32pm

So, they'll leave for a company with better managers?

Mitty

3/3/23 4:00pm

Sad. Fake email jobs that most people have are just as easily done at home as in

Lord Jim

3/2/23 8:50pm

Even when I was in the office we communicated via email and chat most of the

BYUtka

3/2/23 8:57pm

If you run a business and are against WFH, but have outsourced jobs, just sit

1984coug

3/2/23 9:08pm

Do the outsourced jobs have the same salary as the in office jobs? Likely no.

johnnybyu

3/2/23 11:22pm

So then, offer higher pay for in office to offset commuting and owning the

1984coug

3/2/23 11:36pm

This is likely going to happen, but due to covid people had an in office job

johnnybyu

3/2/23 11:42pm

Except WFH not only saves the individual money, it saves the company money too.

BYUtka

3/3/23 4:21pm

It's pretty simple, but man oh man do companies get hung up on dogmatic policy.

Mitty

3/3/23 4:02pm

Here at Tesla still in office with a little hybrid.

jwf

3/2/23 10:30pm

How’s the culture at Tesla? Are you in Fremont?

Acorn

3/2/23 10:33pm

In draper. Definitely a work work work culture. Amazing benefits and

jwf

3/10/23 4:33pm

Excellent

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