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Jan 20, 2023
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kccougar
Intervention Needed
It would be different if BYU was not honoring a contract or agreement in place
But simply applying social media pressure to try to get something out of the organization that someone is not already entitled to is a bad look.
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A child of some deceased legacy season ticket holders has taken to twitter about
keithcoug
1/20/23 5:35am
RE: A son of some deceased legacy season ticket holders has taken to twitter
snowbird
1/20/23 5:37am
Nm. Found it
snowbird
1/20/23 5:38am
Added
keithcoug
1/20/23 5:38am
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What_The_Hill?
1/20/23 8:22am
It's just the right to buy. They still have to pay current market price.
What_The_Hill?
1/20/23 8:23am
They way BYU treats their alumni and legacy families is terrible and Holmoe has
What_The_Hill?
1/20/23 8:25am
Go back to your trash University up on the Hill.
Swag Kazekage
1/20/23 8:54am
Chances are, your family was never "engaged."
Big McLargeHuge
1/20/23 9:10am
Get out of here troll
arizonacougarfan
1/20/23 9:36am
RE: They way BYU treats their alumni and legacy families is terrible and Holmoe
VACOUGFAN
1/20/23 9:37am
Yeah, no matter how much money I want to give, they keep the grandson of some guy who donated money 50 years ago
jaromp
1/20/23 10:17am
Oh, no! Say it ain't so! I just feel so sorry for you.
Emmett Fitz-Hume
1/20/23 1:57pm
RE: They way BYU treats their alumni and legacy families is terrible and Holmoe
TrueBlue67
1/20/23 2:09pm
lol this post is almost as embarrassing as the original tweet.
YOHONOMOTO
1/20/23 2:26pm
It's extraordinarily comical...so much so it's borderline sad because of how pathetically one can grasp at straws.
BlueBlood94
1/20/23 2:52pm
“Disengaged”?
CougarGuy84
1/20/23 4:12pm
Just right to buy. They may have been reduced a long time ago now some of the
johnnybyu
1/20/23 5:48am
Yes. This is what I do. I have the right to purchase my late father's legacy...
UCLACoug
1/20/23 6:40am
This is the right associated with being a stadium donor, correct?
BlackBart
1/20/23 6:58am
Yes
eyebleedblu
1/20/23 7:07am
Unless her dad signed a different agreement than other donors, she is entitled
MVPlayer
1/20/23 7:33am
My guess is that the tickets have already been passed on once.
kccougar
1/20/23 7:53am
Could be. She said on Twitter that her parents were the donors.
MVPlayer
1/20/23 8:17am
Then they likely weren't stadium donors, just long-time ticket holders.
kccougar
1/20/23 8:21am
RE: A son of some deceased legacy season ticket holders has taken to twitter
Gustav
1/20/23 5:49am
Is this the two lifetime rule on tickets sold to build the original stadium?
(Private)
1/20/23 5:57am
Yes
eyebleedblu
1/20/23 7:08am
I have a friend who's been buying his Grandma's tickets for years
Gentleman Stan
1/20/23 6:10am
Yep. I don’t care if they maintain the rights to the seats but they should be
WDaddy
1/20/23 6:15am
How long can you benefit from parents' and grandparents' statuses you've done
vagabonder
1/20/23 6:26am
What is the point of putting this on social media? Make BYU look bad? The people
Iman23
1/20/23 6:11am
In this case, Twitter is often used to try and get BYU to reverse their decision
BYUheaven
1/20/23 6:19am
Just proves how selfish and entitled many are in cougardom
BlackBart
1/20/23 6:22am
Or - hear me out - it’s an opportunity for a little guy to
troglodyte
1/20/23 7:11am
The other side is that BYU has big-time donors who want good seats but can't get them because the family has had these
jaromp
1/20/23 7:21am
But the Twitter poster donated $250
BYUheaven
1/20/23 7:26am
Solid point
eysikal
1/20/23 7:43am
Exactly. As is the case with many current donors I know
BlackBart
1/20/23 7:57am
Eaxctly! This is what other schools do and even some pro teams do.
Kolipoki
1/20/23 10:44am
The “little guys” are whiny complainers
stoils
1/20/23 8:14am
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CameronG
1/20/23 8:33am
I agree...I'm also mad my Grandfather's pension from Kennecott ended when he
ordinary tri guy
1/20/23 6:14am
Exactly.
BlackBart
1/20/23 6:17am
Kennecott has never cared about the little guy.
ochobeeguy
1/20/23 9:16am
You should sue! That will teach them!
Vernon Dozier
1/20/23 7:22pm
I feel for them, but it was time. Many of the original donors are long gone and I never liked the idea of passing
P-Boy Squad
1/20/23 6:14am
Hate to say it, but this was a very selfish post. Full of emotion and no facts
BlackBart
1/20/23 6:16am
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JodyGenessy
1/20/23 6:45am
Nah, I’m good. BYU needs a little defending.
BlackBart
1/20/23 6:55am
Newsflash: Large organizations don’t care about you as an individual.
troglodyte
1/20/23 7:13am
Newsflash: Large organizations are groups of individuals who have to make
oxcoug
1/20/23 7:43am
or....maybe I know those involved and they and their actions are being
BlackBart
1/20/23 8:03am
Shocking, 600,000 ways to support a fanbase.
Q-grr
1/20/23 12:16pm
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JodyGenessy
1/20/23 9:31am
I being entirely civil. I called the act as selfish. Calling someone's action
BlackBart
1/20/23 11:54am
She shouldn’t have posted then….
Vernon Dozier
1/20/23 7:38am
except she's the one bringing it up
lukeskywalker
1/20/23 10:37am
Her dad just died. So she has gained a fresh perspective on what is important.
YOHONOMOTO
1/20/23 2:34pm
Don’t want to hear any bs about showing sympathy because her dad just died. She
babycarrot
1/20/23 7:30pm
Not really, she’s entitled to the tickets if her dad had the same agreement
MVPlayer
1/20/23 7:36am
Which should tell you that her situation is different.
kccougar
1/20/23 8:09am
That group was pretty entitled . At least some of the families
byukarl
1/20/23 6:18am
Donor seats have always been pricier than other seats.
MVPlayer
1/20/23 7:39am
The hilarious part of that thread was where she said this..
VACOUGFAN
1/20/23 6:19am
Facts. Some people way overvalue money…
Vernon Dozier
1/20/23 7:42am
I donate less than that, and don't have season tickets either.
ochobeeguy
1/20/23 9:23am
Straight up cringe
YOHONOMOTO
1/20/23 2:33pm
Wah. My parents were Legacy ticket holders.
TrueBlue67
1/20/23 6:20am
Is Kelli... A son? I just kinda assumed it was a girl.
Courtimedes
1/20/23 6:27am
No
molodyets
1/20/23 7:58am
You don't remember Kelli poppinga?
notaboy
1/20/23 10:27am
Name checks out.
Gentleman Stan
1/20/23 10:30am
That was the agreement at donation and the donor was aware. Move along Kelli.
SpudNut
1/20/23 6:35am
It sounds like she is still dealing with the loss of her parents.
Boredname Checks Out
1/20/23 6:44am
Is it this Woodall family do you think?
IdahoCoug
1/20/23 6:44am
Yes - a great family
ExitStageLeft
1/20/23 7:06am
Yes, that is the family
mj5097
1/20/23 7:06am
If they pay current market rate by all means, but they
arizonacougarfan
1/20/23 6:54am
All of the legacy season ticket holders are entitled to buy season tickets at
VACOUGFAN
1/20/23 7:12am
This is true and a valid point. However BYU may be able to charge more because
johnnybyu
1/20/23 7:29am
“2 things a byu fan brings to a road game the 10 commandments and a $50 dollar
stonecougar
1/20/23 6:56am
Would her dad agree with her post? I'm guessing he would not.
Supercoug
1/20/23 6:57am
Sad they no longer will make fun memories of selling them for profit
TEXAS
1/20/23 6:58am
This is not true. They buy them at a cost usually higher than market rate for
johnnybyu
1/20/23 7:27am
That’s not true. Secondary market for most games in good seats is above the per-ticket price for season tickets. I
TEXAS
1/20/23 7:54am
They are not I have followed them for years. You think people were getting
johnnybyu
1/20/23 8:00am
Upper west bench increased to 425 this year. That’s $70 a ticket. They were selling them for $100 and making $180 or
TEXAS
1/20/23 8:03am
This OP is about the legacy chair seats which you are staying there is no
johnnybyu
1/20/23 8:47am
Maybe. My comment was directed at those original donors that do it for profit, like (I'm guessing here) the mad tweeter
TEXAS
1/20/23 10:30am
But it appears after more info that these are just the end zone seats and not special donor ones. She should donate and
TEXAS
1/20/23 10:55am
Yes it appear they were endzone. My point is the original donors have not been
johnnybyu
1/20/23 11:11am
Original donors could only sit in the $950 section? They couldn't buy tickets elsewhere?
TEXAS
1/20/23 11:27am
The original donor seats were for the chair section on the west. There may have
johnnybyu
1/20/23 12:05pm
So you've never sold those for a profit and no other legacy fans have either? I'm not a legacy but do have chair seats
TEXAS
1/20/23 12:34pm
I don't think you can through a whole season. For certain games yes. I posted
johnnybyu
1/20/23 12:51pm
Also you’re missing the fact that the stadium donors (and their kids) don’t have to make the minimum yearly donation
TEXAS
1/20/23 8:06am
That doesn't factor in here. Season tickets last year cost $950 If you tried
johnnybyu
1/20/23 8:59am
It does factor in. People don't buy season tickets to make a profit
jaromp
1/20/23 9:48am
I agree. We don't. Texas is trying to say they are making a profit which is
johnnybyu
1/20/23 11:05am
I disagree. It makes a huge difference. The stadium donor folks that sell their tickets for money aren't buying up the
TEXAS
1/20/23 10:09am
The discussion is about if someone can sell them for a profit. I am telling you
johnnybyu
1/20/23 11:08am
Thanks. I disagree
TEXAS
1/20/23 11:11am
Her dad just died. She lost her mom, too. Cut her some slack and have empathy.
JodyGenessy
1/20/23 7:00am
Hello, have you met the internet? It’s kinda it’s thing. Jk I’m glad you are
stonecougar
1/20/23 7:04am
Most of us have lost loved ones--we get that part of it. She drew her guns in public and wanted it to make the rounds.
Supercoug
1/20/23 7:08am
I don't disagree with you. I just think some people are being unnecessarily rude
JodyGenessy
1/20/23 9:28am
I completely agree people should leave her alone. She’s wrong by taking this to
eyebleedblu
1/20/23 7:38am
I’m sorry she lost her loved one
TEXAS
1/20/23 7:57am
^ Keyboard warrior wading into battle.
kccougar
1/20/23 7:59am
Is using my real name and defending a good person being a keyboard warrior?
JodyGenessy
1/20/23 9:26am
The way you are wading in to throw your sword around? Short answer, Yes.
kccougar
1/20/23 9:27am
By trying to have people be civil to a daughter in mourning? Okey dokey, champ.
JodyGenessy
1/20/23 9:29am
Apparently there are no mirrors at home?
kccougar
1/20/23 9:45am
You win. You're 10000% correct. Congrats! I rightfully dubbed you the champion.
JodyGenessy
1/20/23 10:05am
Condescending and passive-aggressive. Hallmarks 2 and 3 of the keyboard warrior.
kccougar
1/20/23 10:14am
Here's my last word on this subject:
JodyGenessy
1/20/23 10:24am
Good.
kccougar
1/20/23 10:27am
It sure is easy to act like a jerk when hiding behind the cloak of anonymity
Les IsMore
1/20/23 1:36pm
I agree, Lester. We don't even know if this guy's name is really Jody.
kccougar
1/20/23 1:42pm
Isn't it nice not needing to pretend to be stupid?
Les IsMore
1/20/23 1:55pm
Double negatives FTW.
kccougar
1/20/23 2:05pm
What evidence is there that she's a good person?
HarlemCoug
1/20/23 12:58pm
You had a lot of good people cheering for you back in the day when you were
Backcountry
1/20/23 1:01pm
It's a bad look to ask for civility? I'm not trying to fight. Just be kind.
JodyGenessy
1/20/23 9:50pm
Grief doesn't give people free rein to make poor choices without criticism.
benny1982
1/20/23 8:02am
Fine. Maybe she shouldn't have. So let's pile on and show her how wrong she is!!
JodyGenessy
1/20/23 9:33am
I'm not piling on. But I also don't feel sympathy for some of the blowback
benny1982
1/20/23 9:41am
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TEXAS
1/20/23 10:32am
I don't know if she's on CB. I know her through Twitter and Facebook.
JodyGenessy
1/20/23 9:51pm
If she isn't on CB then she can't possibly be a good person.
BYUtka
1/21/23 7:55am
I don't see many people attacking her. Just explaining the situation.
COACHdrn
1/20/23 8:08am
I have a hard time finding empathy for someone who takes a private squabble
UberDeek
1/20/23 8:20am
It would be different if BYU was not honoring a contract or agreement in place
kccougar
1/20/23 8:23am
So you only have empathy for people when you agree with them and their actions?
JodyGenessy
1/20/23 9:37am
Empathy doesn’t mean supporting bad behavior. She started a debate. Now there’s a debate. In a debate, truth matters. If
mvtoro
1/20/23 9:53am
So no consequences for dumb, attacking behavior from her?
stoils
1/20/23 9:14am
Somebody needs to clear up this person's pronouns for me. Is this person....Crap
IceBlue
1/20/23 10:44am
Leave Brittany Alone!
Backcountry
1/20/23 1:00pm
Her brother works for BYU athletic department in video production
ExitStageLeft
1/20/23 7:02am
*Daughter…Kelli is a she
eyebleedblu
1/20/23 7:09am
So is this an accurate summary of the situation?
Rivers Cuomo
1/20/23 7:22am
Most likely
BYUheaven
1/20/23 7:25am
Yup
jaromp
1/20/23 7:26am
I believe it was back in the 60’s right before
eyebleedblu
1/20/23 7:31am
The stadium expansion was in 1983.
Captain Stubing
1/20/23 7:40am
I stand corrected
eyebleedblu
1/20/23 7:45am
She said in the comments that her parents were the original ticket holders
Lekker01
1/20/23 7:38am
Yeah just saw that so maybe they weren't stadium donors
Rivers Cuomo
1/20/23 7:42am
That's the conclusion I drew. She wants the rights to the accrued donations of a
BlackBart
1/20/23 8:00am
Most likely this is correct. Not stadium donors so they don't even have that special arrangement
kccougar
1/20/23 8:00am
So she wants the "points" her parents accumulated as donors to pass on to her.
Madam Pattirini
1/20/23 10:14am
Yeah, this group really bugs me. They've had the sweetest deal in college athletics for decades, and when it finally
jaromp
1/20/23 7:32am
What about rights of current donors?
cougarnw
1/20/23 7:47am
Greg Vehar, Mike Middleton, and the admin have been walking on eggshells
BlackBart
1/20/23 8:01am
I completely understand your point, and while admittedly not knowing all of the
Ursas Puma
1/20/23 10:02am
this situation's pattern doesn't seem to be a legacy/stadium donor situation
BlackBart
1/20/23 12:04pm
Did you miss the part that she IS a current donor? Nearly 69 cents per day! Hmm?
Cru Jones
1/20/23 9:06am
Sounds fair to me. What did they think? It was going to be in perpetuity? Was that ever the deal ?.
Dr MoBYU
1/20/23 7:52am
Good reminder to those who enjoy tickets bought by family members
kccougar
1/20/23 8:05am
Really, having a parent/grand-parent fund a younger persons CC Donations. . .
Madam Pattirini
1/20/23 10:16am
Entitlement is a funny thing.
Big McLargeHuge
1/20/23 8:36am
Bad idea to criticize and start a public debate when you’re grieving. Also, when so many of your supporters are Utes,
mvtoro
1/20/23 10:00am
As you learned in Econ 110, a savvy seller (BYU)
jre85
1/20/23 10:12am
If I understand correctly, these are not "Legacy Seats" they are EZ seats. The
BYUtka
1/20/23 10:37am
I went to the CC office just last week and talked to Greg Vehar (great guy)
3BallCoug
1/20/23 11:11am
I would assume he explained, as I've heard, that all tickets aside from a few
BlackBart
1/20/23 12:01pm
Sorry, he doesn't like playing by the same rules as everyone else, so there's NO GOOD REASON for BYU not to treat him
jaromp
1/20/23 12:07pm
You think I am asking BYU to treat me special because I want to continue to
3BallCoug
1/20/23 1:01pm
You are asking for something that wasn't promised. You're asking for special treatment then throwing shade at BYU for
HarlemCoug
1/20/23 1:04pm
That is literally what you are doing.
jaromp
1/20/23 1:40pm
By asking for something unavailable to any other fans, you are by definition asking for special treatment
kccougar
1/20/23 1:46pm
I get what you guys are saying and I don't want to come off as arguing. I was
3BallCoug
1/20/23 2:03pm
I hate to say this, but this reminds me of NIMBY's in California
tamasiaina
1/20/23 12:19pm
And then flee to another state and try to create another California cesspool.
Les IsMore
1/20/23 1:57pm
Nimbys? Not anything like CB melting down over a tweet from someone nobody here
AltTabbins
1/20/23 3:30pm
I am sorry for the family’s loss. With that said donors when the stadium was expanded was only required to
Cougarpride
1/20/23 3:51pm
“With that said…” is the new CB version of the Talladega Nights “with all due respect…”. But you’re 100% right.
mvtoro
1/20/23 4:27pm
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