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Jan 20, 2023
6:58:12am

BlackBart All-American

This is the right associated with being a stadium donor, correct?

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BlackBart

Previous username: LVCoug
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Joined: Oct 3, 2004
Last login: Dec 22, 2024
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A child of some deceased legacy season ticket holders has taken to twitter about

keithcoug

1/20/23 5:35am

RE: A son of some deceased legacy season ticket holders has taken to twitter

snowbird

1/20/23 5:37am

Nm. Found it

snowbird

1/20/23 5:38am

Added

keithcoug

1/20/23 5:38am

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1/20/23 8:22am

It's just the right to buy. They still have to pay current market price.

1/20/23 8:23am

They way BYU treats their alumni and legacy families is terrible and Holmoe has

1/20/23 8:25am

Go back to your trash University up on the Hill.

1/20/23 8:54am

Chances are, your family was never "engaged."

Big McLargeHuge

1/20/23 9:10am

Get out of here troll

arizonacougarfan

1/20/23 9:36am

RE: They way BYU treats their alumni and legacy families is terrible and Holmoe

VACOUGFAN

1/20/23 9:37am

Yeah, no matter how much money I want to give, they keep the grandson of some guy who donated money 50 years ago

jaromp

1/20/23 10:17am

Oh, no! Say it ain't so! I just feel so sorry for you.

Emmett Fitz-Hume

1/20/23 1:57pm

RE: They way BYU treats their alumni and legacy families is terrible and Holmoe

TrueBlue67

1/20/23 2:09pm

lol this post is almost as embarrassing as the original tweet.

YOHONOMOTO

1/20/23 2:26pm

It's extraordinarily comical...so much so it's borderline sad because of how pathetically one can grasp at straws.

BlueBlood94

1/20/23 2:52pm

“Disengaged”?

CougarGuy84

1/20/23 4:12pm

Just right to buy. They may have been reduced a long time ago now some of the

johnnybyu

1/20/23 5:48am

Yes. This is what I do. I have the right to purchase my late father's legacy...

UCLACoug

1/20/23 6:40am

This is the right associated with being a stadium donor, correct?

BlackBart

1/20/23 6:58am

Yes

eyebleedblu

1/20/23 7:07am

Unless her dad signed a different agreement than other donors, she is entitled

MVPlayer

1/20/23 7:33am

My guess is that the tickets have already been passed on once.

kccougar

1/20/23 7:53am

Could be. She said on Twitter that her parents were the donors.

MVPlayer

1/20/23 8:17am

Then they likely weren't stadium donors, just long-time ticket holders.

kccougar

1/20/23 8:21am

RE: A son of some deceased legacy season ticket holders has taken to twitter

Gustav

1/20/23 5:49am

Is this the two lifetime rule on tickets sold to build the original stadium?

(Private)

1/20/23 5:57am

Yes

eyebleedblu

1/20/23 7:08am

I have a friend who's been buying his Grandma's tickets for years

1/20/23 6:10am

Yep. I don’t care if they maintain the rights to the seats but they should be

WDaddy

1/20/23 6:15am

How long can you benefit from parents' and grandparents' statuses you've done

vagabonder

1/20/23 6:26am

What is the point of putting this on social media? Make BYU look bad? The people

Iman23

1/20/23 6:11am

In this case, Twitter is often used to try and get BYU to reverse their decision

BYUheaven

1/20/23 6:19am

Just proves how selfish and entitled many are in cougardom

BlackBart

1/20/23 6:22am

Or - hear me out - it’s an opportunity for a little guy to

troglodyte

1/20/23 7:11am

The other side is that BYU has big-time donors who want good seats but can't get them because the family has had these

jaromp

1/20/23 7:21am

But the Twitter poster donated $250

BYUheaven

1/20/23 7:26am

Solid point

eysikal

1/20/23 7:43am

Exactly. As is the case with many current donors I know

BlackBart

1/20/23 7:57am

Eaxctly! This is what other schools do and even some pro teams do.

Kolipoki

1/20/23 10:44am

The “little guys” are whiny complainers

stoils

1/20/23 8:14am

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CameronG

1/20/23 8:33am

I agree...I'm also mad my Grandfather's pension from Kennecott ended when he

ordinary tri guy

1/20/23 6:14am

Exactly.

BlackBart

1/20/23 6:17am

Kennecott has never cared about the little guy.

ochobeeguy

1/20/23 9:16am

You should sue! That will teach them!

1/20/23 7:22pm

I feel for them, but it was time. Many of the original donors are long gone and I never liked the idea of passing

P-Boy Squad

1/20/23 6:14am

Hate to say it, but this was a very selfish post. Full of emotion and no facts

BlackBart

1/20/23 6:16am

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JodyGenessy

1/20/23 6:45am

Nah, I’m good. BYU needs a little defending.

BlackBart

1/20/23 6:55am

Newsflash: Large organizations don’t care about you as an individual.

troglodyte

1/20/23 7:13am

Newsflash: Large organizations are groups of individuals who have to make

oxcoug

1/20/23 7:43am

or....maybe I know those involved and they and their actions are being

BlackBart

1/20/23 8:03am

Shocking, 600,000 ways to support a fanbase.

Q-grr

1/20/23 12:16pm

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JodyGenessy

1/20/23 9:31am

I being entirely civil. I called the act as selfish. Calling someone's action

BlackBart

1/20/23 11:54am

She shouldn’t have posted then….

1/20/23 7:38am

except she's the one bringing it up

lukeskywalker

1/20/23 10:37am

Her dad just died. So she has gained a fresh perspective on what is important.

YOHONOMOTO

1/20/23 2:34pm

Don’t want to hear any bs about showing sympathy because her dad just died. She

babycarrot

1/20/23 7:30pm

Not really, she’s entitled to the tickets if her dad had the same agreement

MVPlayer

1/20/23 7:36am

Which should tell you that her situation is different.

kccougar

1/20/23 8:09am

That group was pretty entitled . At least some of the families

byukarl

1/20/23 6:18am

Donor seats have always been pricier than other seats.

MVPlayer

1/20/23 7:39am

The hilarious part of that thread was where she said this..

VACOUGFAN

1/20/23 6:19am

Facts. Some people way overvalue money…

1/20/23 7:42am

I donate less than that, and don't have season tickets either.

ochobeeguy

1/20/23 9:23am

Straight up cringe

YOHONOMOTO

1/20/23 2:33pm

Wah. My parents were Legacy ticket holders.

TrueBlue67

1/20/23 6:20am

Is Kelli... A son? I just kinda assumed it was a girl.

Courtimedes

1/20/23 6:27am

No

molodyets

1/20/23 7:58am

You don't remember Kelli poppinga?

notaboy

1/20/23 10:27am

Name checks out.

1/20/23 10:30am

That was the agreement at donation and the donor was aware. Move along Kelli.

SpudNut

1/20/23 6:35am

It sounds like she is still dealing with the loss of her parents.

Boredname Checks Out

1/20/23 6:44am

Is it this Woodall family do you think?

IdahoCoug

1/20/23 6:44am

Yes - a great family

ExitStageLeft

1/20/23 7:06am

Yes, that is the family

mj5097

1/20/23 7:06am

If they pay current market rate by all means, but they

arizonacougarfan

1/20/23 6:54am

All of the legacy season ticket holders are entitled to buy season tickets at

VACOUGFAN

1/20/23 7:12am

This is true and a valid point. However BYU may be able to charge more because

johnnybyu

1/20/23 7:29am

“2 things a byu fan brings to a road game the 10 commandments and a $50 dollar

stonecougar

1/20/23 6:56am

Would her dad agree with her post? I'm guessing he would not.

Supercoug

1/20/23 6:57am

Sad they no longer will make fun memories of selling them for profit

TEXAS

1/20/23 6:58am

This is not true. They buy them at a cost usually higher than market rate for

johnnybyu

1/20/23 7:27am

That’s not true. Secondary market for most games in good seats is above the per-ticket price for season tickets. I

TEXAS

1/20/23 7:54am

They are not I have followed them for years. You think people were getting

johnnybyu

1/20/23 8:00am

Upper west bench increased to 425 this year. That’s $70 a ticket. They were selling them for $100 and making $180 or

TEXAS

1/20/23 8:03am

This OP is about the legacy chair seats which you are staying there is no

johnnybyu

1/20/23 8:47am

Maybe. My comment was directed at those original donors that do it for profit, like (I'm guessing here) the mad tweeter

TEXAS

1/20/23 10:30am

But it appears after more info that these are just the end zone seats and not special donor ones. She should donate and

TEXAS

1/20/23 10:55am

Yes it appear they were endzone. My point is the original donors have not been

johnnybyu

1/20/23 11:11am

Original donors could only sit in the $950 section? They couldn't buy tickets elsewhere?

TEXAS

1/20/23 11:27am

The original donor seats were for the chair section on the west. There may have

johnnybyu

1/20/23 12:05pm

So you've never sold those for a profit and no other legacy fans have either? I'm not a legacy but do have chair seats

TEXAS

1/20/23 12:34pm

I don't think you can through a whole season. For certain games yes. I posted

johnnybyu

1/20/23 12:51pm

Also you’re missing the fact that the stadium donors (and their kids) don’t have to make the minimum yearly donation

TEXAS

1/20/23 8:06am

That doesn't factor in here. Season tickets last year cost $950 If you tried

johnnybyu

1/20/23 8:59am

It does factor in. People don't buy season tickets to make a profit

jaromp

1/20/23 9:48am

I agree. We don't. Texas is trying to say they are making a profit which is

johnnybyu

1/20/23 11:05am

I disagree. It makes a huge difference. The stadium donor folks that sell their tickets for money aren't buying up the

TEXAS

1/20/23 10:09am

The discussion is about if someone can sell them for a profit. I am telling you

johnnybyu

1/20/23 11:08am

Thanks. I disagree

TEXAS

1/20/23 11:11am

Her dad just died. She lost her mom, too. Cut her some slack and have empathy.

JodyGenessy

1/20/23 7:00am

Hello, have you met the internet? It’s kinda it’s thing. Jk I’m glad you are

stonecougar

1/20/23 7:04am

Most of us have lost loved ones--we get that part of it. She drew her guns in public and wanted it to make the rounds.

Supercoug

1/20/23 7:08am

I don't disagree with you. I just think some people are being unnecessarily rude

JodyGenessy

1/20/23 9:28am

I completely agree people should leave her alone. She’s wrong by taking this to

eyebleedblu

1/20/23 7:38am

I’m sorry she lost her loved one

TEXAS

1/20/23 7:57am

^ Keyboard warrior wading into battle.

kccougar

1/20/23 7:59am

Is using my real name and defending a good person being a keyboard warrior?

JodyGenessy

1/20/23 9:26am

The way you are wading in to throw your sword around? Short answer, Yes.

kccougar

1/20/23 9:27am

By trying to have people be civil to a daughter in mourning? Okey dokey, champ.

JodyGenessy

1/20/23 9:29am

Apparently there are no mirrors at home?

kccougar

1/20/23 9:45am

You win. You're 10000% correct. Congrats! I rightfully dubbed you the champion.

JodyGenessy

1/20/23 10:05am

Condescending and passive-aggressive. Hallmarks 2 and 3 of the keyboard warrior.

kccougar

1/20/23 10:14am

Here's my last word on this subject:

JodyGenessy

1/20/23 10:24am

Good.

kccougar

1/20/23 10:27am

It sure is easy to act like a jerk when hiding behind the cloak of anonymity

Les IsMore

1/20/23 1:36pm

I agree, Lester. We don't even know if this guy's name is really Jody.

kccougar

1/20/23 1:42pm

Isn't it nice not needing to pretend to be stupid?

Les IsMore

1/20/23 1:55pm

Double negatives FTW.

kccougar

1/20/23 2:05pm

What evidence is there that she's a good person?

HarlemCoug

1/20/23 12:58pm

You had a lot of good people cheering for you back in the day when you were

Backcountry

1/20/23 1:01pm

It's a bad look to ask for civility? I'm not trying to fight. Just be kind.

JodyGenessy

1/20/23 9:50pm

Grief doesn't give people free rein to make poor choices without criticism.

benny1982

1/20/23 8:02am

Fine. Maybe she shouldn't have. So let's pile on and show her how wrong she is!!

JodyGenessy

1/20/23 9:33am

I'm not piling on. But I also don't feel sympathy for some of the blowback

benny1982

1/20/23 9:41am

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TEXAS

1/20/23 10:32am

I don't know if she's on CB. I know her through Twitter and Facebook.

JodyGenessy

1/20/23 9:51pm

If she isn't on CB then she can't possibly be a good person.

BYUtka

1/21/23 7:55am

I don't see many people attacking her. Just explaining the situation.

COACHdrn

1/20/23 8:08am

I have a hard time finding empathy for someone who takes a private squabble

UberDeek

1/20/23 8:20am

It would be different if BYU was not honoring a contract or agreement in place

kccougar

1/20/23 8:23am

So you only have empathy for people when you agree with them and their actions?

JodyGenessy

1/20/23 9:37am

Empathy doesn’t mean supporting bad behavior. She started a debate. Now there’s a debate. In a debate, truth matters. If

mvtoro

1/20/23 9:53am

So no consequences for dumb, attacking behavior from her?

stoils

1/20/23 9:14am

Somebody needs to clear up this person's pronouns for me. Is this person....Crap

IceBlue

1/20/23 10:44am

Leave Brittany Alone!

Backcountry

1/20/23 1:00pm

Her brother works for BYU athletic department in video production

ExitStageLeft

1/20/23 7:02am

*Daughter…Kelli is a she

eyebleedblu

1/20/23 7:09am

So is this an accurate summary of the situation?

1/20/23 7:22am

Most likely

BYUheaven

1/20/23 7:25am

Yup

jaromp

1/20/23 7:26am

I believe it was back in the 60’s right before

eyebleedblu

1/20/23 7:31am

The stadium expansion was in 1983.

Captain Stubing

1/20/23 7:40am

I stand corrected

eyebleedblu

1/20/23 7:45am

She said in the comments that her parents were the original ticket holders

Lekker01

1/20/23 7:38am

Yeah just saw that so maybe they weren't stadium donors

1/20/23 7:42am

That's the conclusion I drew. She wants the rights to the accrued donations of a

BlackBart

1/20/23 8:00am

Most likely this is correct. Not stadium donors so they don't even have that special arrangement

kccougar

1/20/23 8:00am

So she wants the "points" her parents accumulated as donors to pass on to her.

Madam Pattirini

1/20/23 10:14am

Yeah, this group really bugs me. They've had the sweetest deal in college athletics for decades, and when it finally

jaromp

1/20/23 7:32am

What about rights of current donors?

cougarnw

1/20/23 7:47am

Greg Vehar, Mike Middleton, and the admin have been walking on eggshells

BlackBart

1/20/23 8:01am

I completely understand your point, and while admittedly not knowing all of the

Ursas Puma

1/20/23 10:02am

this situation's pattern doesn't seem to be a legacy/stadium donor situation

BlackBart

1/20/23 12:04pm

Did you miss the part that she IS a current donor? Nearly 69 cents per day! Hmm?

Cru Jones

1/20/23 9:06am

Sounds fair to me. What did they think? It was going to be in perpetuity? Was that ever the deal ?.

Dr MoBYU

1/20/23 7:52am

Good reminder to those who enjoy tickets bought by family members

kccougar

1/20/23 8:05am

Really, having a parent/grand-parent fund a younger persons CC Donations. . .

Madam Pattirini

1/20/23 10:16am

Entitlement is a funny thing.

Big McLargeHuge

1/20/23 8:36am

Bad idea to criticize and start a public debate when you’re grieving. Also, when so many of your supporters are Utes,

mvtoro

1/20/23 10:00am

As you learned in Econ 110, a savvy seller (BYU)

jre85

1/20/23 10:12am

If I understand correctly, these are not "Legacy Seats" they are EZ seats. The

BYUtka

1/20/23 10:37am

I went to the CC office just last week and talked to Greg Vehar (great guy)

3BallCoug

1/20/23 11:11am

I would assume he explained, as I've heard, that all tickets aside from a few

BlackBart

1/20/23 12:01pm

Sorry, he doesn't like playing by the same rules as everyone else, so there's NO GOOD REASON for BYU not to treat him

jaromp

1/20/23 12:07pm

You think I am asking BYU to treat me special because I want to continue to

3BallCoug

1/20/23 1:01pm

You are asking for something that wasn't promised. You're asking for special treatment then throwing shade at BYU for

HarlemCoug

1/20/23 1:04pm

That is literally what you are doing.

jaromp

1/20/23 1:40pm

By asking for something unavailable to any other fans, you are by definition asking for special treatment

kccougar

1/20/23 1:46pm

I get what you guys are saying and I don't want to come off as arguing. I was

3BallCoug

1/20/23 2:03pm

I hate to say this, but this reminds me of NIMBY's in California

tamasiaina

1/20/23 12:19pm

And then flee to another state and try to create another California cesspool.

Les IsMore

1/20/23 1:57pm

Nimbys? Not anything like CB melting down over a tweet from someone nobody here

AltTabbins

1/20/23 3:30pm

I am sorry for the family’s loss. With that said donors when the stadium was expanded was only required to

Cougarpride

1/20/23 3:51pm

“With that said…” is the new CB version of the Talladega Nights “with all due respect…”. But you’re 100% right.

mvtoro

1/20/23 4:27pm

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