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Sep 27, 2022
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kimdaddy35
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Are you that obtuse? No we don't stop. That is why Hall's will continue to increase like it did last week.
This isn't hard, why is it so hard for you?
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RE: Hall is the best BYU QB since Detmer.
HairyCougar
9/27/22 2:16pm
RE: Hall is the best BYU QB since Detmer.
Soupie
9/27/22 2:18pm
You do realize he has played a tougher schedule than just about everyone above him, right? His rating is going to go
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 2:19pm
Have to remember that Hall has played way more P5 teams as a percentage of games
Dangerous
9/27/22 2:20pm
Detmer threw for 500 against Penn State in the Holiday Bowl, 400 yards against
HairyCougar
9/27/22 2:27pm
Not the same offense. Detmer also turned the ball over a lot more than Hall.
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 2:29pm
Can't you say the same about interceptions? They are down across the NCAA from
Polemic
9/27/22 2:32pm
I'd frame it as "offenses have gotten better at not turning the ball over"
Hotlanta
9/27/22 2:38pm
Detmer's TO's were due to risks he took and he admits it
HairyCougar
9/27/22 3:05pm
Yes, my point exactly.
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 2:38pm
Detmer took a few more risks but the offense was more explosive as a result
HairyCougar
9/27/22 2:33pm
Ty Detmer's team's point totals in games against P5s:
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 2:58pm
Like I said, not all P5's are created equal
HairyCougar
9/27/22 3:01pm
Now compare Jaren's #'s to Ty's versus G5's.
HairyCougar
9/27/22 3:01pm
Passer rating is not all that different. Yards will be very different as Hall's teams have been possession poor and
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 3:09pm
What? Detmer had QB ratings of 176, 156, and 169 his soph, jr, and sr years
HairyCougar
9/27/22 3:12pm
Not sure your point. But Hall's is worse overall because he plays more P5s than Detmer did. Not sure
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 3:25pm
Detmer's "P5s" were infinitely more difficult.
HairyCougar
9/27/22 4:28pm
Detmer had some great games against P5 teams, but also struggled mightily
Dangerous
9/27/22 2:31pm
Go watch those games. He had no time to throw.
HairyCougar
9/27/22 2:34pm
P5 doesn't really mean much. The G5 Utah and TCU teams that Max Hall faced were
Polemic
9/27/22 2:31pm
25 - 32 for 261 yards and 2 TD's is a lackluster game?
Dangerous
9/27/22 2:33pm
Hall played great against USF. Made one bad decision which was an incredible play by the defender.
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 2:33pm
All P5's are not created equal
HairyCougar
9/27/22 2:32pm
Did you just say that John Beck played well in the 13-16 loss to 6-6 Arizona?
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 2:37pm
BYU beat Oregon 38-8
HairyCougar
9/27/22 2:40pm
No, he did not say that. . . I am curious what you are saying though.
Zoobieman
9/27/22 2:41pm
Sorry I typed Oregon and meant Arizona.
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 3:06pm
Understood, thank you.
Zoobieman
9/27/22 3:41pm
Jaren had a 131 passer rating against Boise State last year. 123 against
HairyCougar
9/27/22 2:47pm
Yes, the numbers will favor Hall
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 3:06pm
Beck's QB rating sr year 169. Hall's right now 158.
HairyCougar
9/27/22 3:13pm
You do realize that after 4 games Beck's was much lower. Then he played the MWC.
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 3:22pm
So we stop after 4 games? Guy, you sound foolish
HairyCougar
9/27/22 4:29pm
Are you that obtuse? No we don't stop. That is why Hall's will continue to increase like it did last week.
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 4:31pm
It was 161 against South Florida which might be the worst defense he plays all y
HairyCougar
9/27/22 4:34pm
Jaren's passer rating against non P-5s this year is 186. I see why people don't talk to you because you aren't
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 4:48pm
2 game sample?
HairyCougar
9/27/22 6:43pm
Until he sees the middle of the field better
PortlandCoug
9/27/22 2:22pm
Correct
HairyCougar
9/27/22 2:27pm
Lol he had three 3rd down brilliant throws in 1 drive against Wyoming
cougfan03
9/27/22 3:01pm
"against Wyoming"
HairyCougar
9/27/22 3:16pm
I love that Wyoming has become a punchline, when BYU played them for generations
Hotlanta
9/27/22 4:53pm
When a guy is drafted is also anecdotal, as teams draft off needs
1984coug
9/27/22 2:24pm
Jaren Hall is amazing. . . But Zach went #2 in the draft for a reason
Zoobieman
9/27/22 2:39pm
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