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Video: Chase Roberts: Why this game is the wake-up call BYU needs and the key to beating Arizona State - BYU Football wide receiver Chase Roberts joins Spencer Linton after BYU's tough loss to Kansas to... View

[BYUtv Sports] BYUtv Sports Nation

8:36am

POLL: Offensive coordinator

Tuskaloosa Cougar

8:35am

I was annoyed with clock management on the final drive

Hup

8:35am

We went fast when we should have gone slow in the first half, and fast when we

al3124

8:36am

Who else thinks it’s weird that Lance Leipold practice that quick kick every

HimmerFredette

8:35am

Kansas is good

HimmerFredette

8:34am

I don't agree. We didn't deserve to win that game, but it was way more to do

westsidecoug

8:36am

It's time to bench Jake. Coaches don't trust him to pass in the red zone.

BIG XII Coug Unemployed BIG XII advisor

8:33am

Gerry hasn't played a game in almost three years, Jake is 9-1 this year as a starter.

2FarGone

8:35am

They apparently do trust him by continuing to let him throw fades.

GfB

8:35am

That game just absolutely sucked. 9-0 and you blow it to a 3-6 team at home.

WhirleyPop

8:33am

What’s the deal with CB crashing during football games. Super annoying.

Magneto

8:33am

So if we win one more game do we get to the CCG?

WB Coug

8:32am

No. Basically ASU is a must win, can't drop Houston either.

GfB

8:34am

From my understanding the ASU game pretty much decides who is going to CCG.

Jay_L

8:35am

On sports nation, they always ask the question…what is the most important

Idacoug

8:32am

The offense produced a clunker. Not good enough. Just have to regroup.

rcbyufan

8:33am

I have loved Twitter for the easy sports content, but one thing that has gotten

Coog4Life

8:31am

TNT has a question.

cvd6262

8:32am

We have an average OC and an average QB. We can get specific all day but that's the summary.

GfB I'm not crazy, you're crazy

8:31am

Yeah they both have above and below average days and yesterday they were both

tony

8:33am

Correct

GfB

8:34am

It’s been a fun run. Be grateful.

Blue Print

8:31am

Plot twist: We are in a conference and still in the driver's seat to win it

jrifkin48

8:34am

I had to apologize to a-rod, but now I take that back

HimmerFredette

8:29am

With BYU loss it's likely BSU ends up as 4th highest ranked conf champ...

lbmango

8:29am

I doubt they host ... BigXII champ is likely ranked #10 or lower.

Xenon

8:31am

If we win out, we could potentially jump BSU

McMax

8:32am

I think that’s what would happen.

Yukon

8:35am

Nah. That isn’t how it works.

Carnac

8:32am

I don't think that they will rank the Big 12 champ lower than Boise State

2FarGone

8:33am

For all the hand ringing the game was lost on an unlucky bounce.

stonecougar

8:29am

It was an unlucky bounce but we still should’ve won

HimmerFredette

8:30am

It was lost by fade and long stupid drives that didn't get TDs

88Coug

8:31am

Beg to differ—the game was lost when we threw a pick on first and goal at the 5.

al3124

8:32am

^^^^THIS

carcoug

8:35am

That wasn't a bad bounce. It bounced literally RIGHT to a BYU player who decided

COACHdrn

8:33am

It was Robinson who had it pop out of him.

Magneto

8:35am

Or Glasker could’ve just held onto the ball 2 players earlier for an INT.

Magneto

8:34am

Blog: Takeaways From BYU Football’s Upset Loss To Kansas View

[KSL Sports] Mitch Harper

8:29am

Been thinking about this game and here are my thoughts.

MHallDidNothingWr0ng Nice Leather Pants

8:27am

Another thing thatreally hurt last night was the 2 minute warning

TADOW Intervention Needed

8:26am

I noticed that too

stonecougar

8:32am

We Seahawked ourselves with the fade in the endzone.

maYbe

8:24am

At least Russ threw his INT on a slant.

oxcoug

8:33am

POLL: What's your outlook for the rest of the season?

BlueFever

8:23am

Byu will lose to ASU and beat Houston and just miss on the CCG

Tuskaloosa Cougar

8:25am

Yep. Last night was huge and we blew it

ballen

8:27am

I’m glad people are feeling zen, but failing to beat a 3-6 team at home makes

al3124

8:33am

Hopeful, but not confident in any outcome, good or bad

OverratedHumor

8:25am

You're basically asking how will BYU respond to adversity.

2FarGone

8:25am

Not so, brother. If you "believe" then choose the "BYU is going all the way"

BlueFever

8:36am

Perhaps Okie State and Utah close games were results of undefeated pressure

jrifkin48

8:23am

The pressure will be higher now. The ASU game will feel like a playoff game.

maYbe

8:27am

The best most consistent player on offense is Caleb Etinne this year. Watching

Magneto

8:23am

Blog: Red Zone Struggles Among Questions Answered For No. 6 BYU Football Against Kansas View

[KSL Sports] Matt Baiamonte

8:21am

So, is Jake injured?

Zip

8:21am

He’s played bad the past two games. It reminds me of when Jaren was injured but

BaseCoug

8:22am

Too bad we don't have an experienced and quality backup QB.. oh wait

88Coug

8:24am

To be honest, Bohanon hasn't had game in experience in almost three years now, right?

2FarGone

8:32am

Probably. Most players are this time of year.

shoganai

8:22am

Morning after a cold night at Lavell

cajuncoug

8:21am

The suck it Utah part is spot on. Any Ute talking trash right now has some

westsidecoug

8:33am

The pain is real. It will last another few days. Disrespect will be huge. The

Idacoug

8:20am

Kansas OL was incredible. We couldn’t get that QB all game.

Magneto

8:20am

Really great when the refs don't call obvious holds on the KU OL

88Coug

8:21am

Neal did fantastic in blitz pickup. There were a few times I was sure we would

allaboutthegainz

8:21am

Did either team have a sack? I good Kansas has at least 1 when Jake ran but...

COACHdrn

8:21am

There was at least one where Kansas QB was tackled behind LOS.

Yukon

8:23am

The discouraging thing about the INT to end the half was Jake did the 1 thing

YbeatsU

8:20am

I know you know this logically, but the wording of the post sure makes it

Polecat

8:34am

The Big12 refs let us down. Where was the holding call on that 4th down? Did

NOCAL_YFAN

8:20am

We were happy to be in the Big 12, but not today

McMax

8:20am

Refs let us down the first drive by missing the most obvious OPI ever

puntersarepeople

8:21am

That was a bad non call. The offsides that didn't get called hurt too.

IronPotato

8:22am

Maybe they were like “Brett, they were throwing fades to blocking TE’s on 1st

NOCAL_YFAN

8:29am

Why in the world did Connor Pay not snap the ball in the red zone? Can’t use the

Magneto

8:19am

His 5 yard penalty made a 3rd and manageable into 3rd and long.

Magneto

8:27am

How on the pooch punt do the coaches not warn the players to look out for it??

ChubbyMoose

8:19am

Coach L said it was the third time he ever called it in his career, since 2007.

momowagon

8:23am

Three HUGE Plays...

lbmango

8:19am

Well said. We didn’t play well but still could have won if the breaks that have

Disco Lemonade

8:26am

Team of Density

CallSign

8:18am

You still think Utah is good? 😉

puntersarepeople

8:20am

Now down to 123rd in 3rd Down Conversion %. The teams around us are awful. We

rivercitycoug

8:18am

We had a hard-fought one game margin. We needed that for next week. Right now

momowagon

8:18am

Shutdown all the side podcasts and tv shows. Offense said they weren’t focused

Magneto

8:17am

I have to agree. We don’t pass the eye test.

ColdFusion1989

8:16am

Kansas played to prevent big plays and we couldn’t run well enough to make them

puntersarepeople

8:18am

Kalani needs to figure out how to win more games by more points.

COACHdrn

8:25am

I thought John Beck worked with Jake on his throwing. Jake can’t throw a deep

Magneto

8:16am

He did. And Jake has nailed multiple deep balls this year. Throws over 40 yards

oxcoug

8:17am

What’s his percentage on passes 35+ or longer? I bet it’s not great.

Magneto

8:18am

Uhhh AKSHUALLY

oxcoug

8:20am

Reality is Jake has made a bunch of throws that a bunch of BYU greats could not

oxcoug

8:23am

Kansas did a good job defending the deep ball

NacoCoug

8:20am

Except for the two plays Jake had WR wide open down field.

Magneto

8:20am

He overthrew them both.

Magneto

8:21am

Throws of that distance are ALWAYS gonna be 60/40 deals even for the best QBs

oxcoug

8:25am

It's like an open 3 pointer - great shooters are gonna knock it down 60% of the

oxcoug

8:27am

What’s most disappointing is this year is not like 2020 or other previous great

boorad

8:16am

Idk who called it but ARod and Jake need to be on same page to not throw fades

Warner

8:15am

Or just quit severely under throwing them

LV Coug

8:24am

My 8 year old

IronPotato

8:15am

What P4 conference is worse this year ACC or B12?

Magneto

8:15am

Blog: Hinckley Ropati Gives BYU The Lead On Long Touchdown Grab View

[KSL Sports] Brian Preece

8:14am

RE: Blog: Hinckley Ropati Gives BYU The Lead On Long Touchdown Grab

Gustav

8:15am

Game wasn't a total loss — at least we sent a positive message to viewers:

Gustav

8:13am

Y'all need to stop looking 4 scapegoats. ARod isn't the problem. He's a good OC

runnincoug

8:12am

He's not a good OC. FIFY.

foofcoug

8:13am

Nice argument. What's your evidence?

runnincoug

8:17am

Recruiting. Clock management. Game management. Situational awareness. Play calling. Execution. Player development.

foofcoug

8:19am

Yeah let’s rehire Anae! He sent lots of guys to the NFL … oh wait

puntersarepeople

8:24am

Why do BYU fans want to retread so many coaches? "If it's not our current guy, then it has to be the guy who coached

foofcoug

8:26am

Arod statistically is an above average OC. If you fire him, you have a greater

runnincoug

8:28am

13 points against the worst defense they faced all year. 13.

foofcoug

8:29am

Nice argument, where's your evidence? Any actual data like I provided?

runnincoug

8:25am

The data you provided like attributing him to recruiting 2 guys he didn't? Just because it's data doesn't mean it's fact

foofcoug

8:27am

I've shared lots more data on this thread.

runnincoug

8:28am

There was also lots of data for keeping Tuiaki - giving up yards not points. Does mean he was a good DC or that BYU

foofcoug

8:30am

ARod is the biggest thing holding the team back.

88Coug

8:14am

"holding us back?" We're 9-1. How common do you think that kind of record is?

runnincoug

8:19am

It is not because of him but in spite of him.

88Coug

8:20am

Who has he recruited himself? He doesn’t.

Magneto

8:14am

three straight NFL QBs for starters. Maybe he's great at finding lower rated

runnincoug

8:18am

Zack and Jaren were both Grimes and Kalani.

Magneto

8:22am

ARod was the offensive consultant and passing game coordinator that recruited

runnincoug

8:25am

I believe it was Grimes, Kalani, and Fesi who went after him.

Magneto

8:32am

Arod was involved. he was offensive consultant in 2017 & then Wilson's QB coach

runnincoug

8:35am

He’s Tuiaki but for offense. There’s a reason teams aren’t trying to poach him. He needs to head to FCS where he belongs

byuTX

8:16am

That's just not true at all. Tuiaki's defenses were legit horrible. Our offense

runnincoug

8:18am

He should have been let go last year after a bottom 20 offense

byuTX

8:20am

If we had done that, we wouldn't be 9-1 this year, I guarantee that.

runnincoug

8:21am

We might have been 10-0

88Coug

8:26am

Wouldn’t have lost last night for sure

byuTX

8:28am

He's not the reason we lost last night. We lost because:

runnincoug

8:32am

We are 9-1 because of luck in spite of QB/coaching. Hard to say whether we would have the same luck again. D would

byuTX

8:27am

As an example, this data shows firing an OC usually doesn't help.

runnincoug

8:22am

The offense hasn't played a complete game all season. They've been buoyed by defensive and special teams TDs and

foofcoug

8:22am

Ludwig has had more success as an OC and has had to deal with a serious number of injuries last 2 seasons...

Coug

8:22am

And how did that work out for Utah, firing Ludwig twice?

runnincoug

8:23am

Made zero difference... Just like keeping ARod it's made zero difference

Coug

8:28am

Utah has a great defense and hasn’t gone 9-1 either of the last 2 years.

puntersarepeople

8:26am

CB: Whitt is horrible at managing OCs! He's so dumb! Also CB: Fire ARod despite

runnincoug

8:26am

131st in RedZone production our last 3 games, 3 offensive TD's in the last 10 quarters of football

Coug

8:36am

Biggest thing holding Ludwig back is the same reason every other Utah OC left

LV Coug

8:31am

POLL: It’s your call

UnoDoctor

8:12am

People are forgetting that he coached a offense that has only 3 games that

McMax

8:15am

That punt though…

IGlowInTheDark

8:12am

1st and goal from the 5, 1 minute to play in the first half, 2 timeouts left.

AeroCoug

8:11am

We have a great season and this board goes “see ARod is great” no he ain’t

CycloneCoug

8:13am

Jake has never thrown a good fade ball

checoug

8:13am

Should never be in a position to throw at all

coug719

8:15am

Among his flaws, this is real - he doesn't have the touch for fades.

oxcoug

8:16am

LOL. I watched probably 7 games on Saturday. You need to get out more.

rcbyufan

8:13am

The call and execution is just inexcusable. Threw a pick on it just last week.

Mr. Scoobs

8:14am

I run a QB draw then call a timeout if he doesn’t score. Plenty of time to run 2

cougaman

8:17am

I assume you watched the Clemson game

rcbyufan

8:19am

The fade pass isn't a 50/50 pass, it's literally the least completed passing at all levels of football

Coug

8:26am

Agreed, should be more like 1% for BYU throwing the fade.

AeroCoug

8:34am

I think we all have a little PTSD from independence era. 1 loss and we're out.

BYURider

8:11am

Anyone ever wonder what would've happened if that one person let Arod take the Washington job he accepted?

foofcoug Wonder what the character limi

8:11am

The fade and clock management were issues last week. To make those mistakes

Mr. Scoobs

8:11am

Or smart enough to recognize that they were issues...

foofcoug

8:12am

This is the bigger problem. It’s just that self scouting and working to improve are vibe killers

byuTX

8:18am

They overcorrected with the clock management. There is no reason to spike it

cougaman

8:14am

I know I should be happy about being 9-1 and if you had told me before the season we'd be 9-1 I would have called you a

Nuke All-American

8:10am

The hard thing is that completely crapped the bed in every way

Zerigke Ally Zerigke

8:10am

Losing sucks, especially winnable games.

IronPotato

8:09am

This is how it will be in the Big12. Get used to it. In years where BYU is

Squirt

8:07am

More than ever, just win!!! Urgency was needed with this team. Now we see what

Stucoug83

8:07am

Article: 'Too many mistakes' doom BYU to 1st loss vs. KU View

[ESPN]

8:07am

I like the time consuming offense only if we had scored a TD before half. When

Magneto

8:06am

POLL: What stage of grief are you at?

immacougar

8:05am

Anger. And I plan to stay there a while. How do we not play with fire, at home

ballen

8:07am

I've accepted that Arod is a below average OC & QB coach for a long time now. I've also accepted that BYU will need much

foofcoug

8:07am

I can celebrate the wins without feeling the need to grieve the losses.

OverratedHumor

8:08am

Last three games byu is 131’st in redzone offensive grade per PFF. ARod and

idcougarfan

8:05am

I choose to believe that is more fixable than other probs we could be having

Rexy Coug

8:07am

Yeah, fire the OC

88Coug

8:10am

Whole season rating?

puntersarepeople

8:11am

It seems the O got a little dependent on the D to get them turnovers and short

jigidajrit

8:04am

No, we just had poor plays and execution in the Redzone.

cougaman

8:04am

The D did its job. The QB and OC didn't do theirs.

88Coug

8:05am

Oh I agree. Just wonder if gifting the O so many short fields in games past

jigidajrit

8:08am

We had lots of long drives vs Baylor and OSU but scored TD on them

puntersarepeople

8:12am

If we win out, this loss doesn’t even matter. We will still get a first round

allaboutthegainz

8:03am

Yup. Beating ASU and Colorado would put us over Boise for sure.

IronPotato

8:04am

100%. This simply removes margin for error in the next 3

krindorr

8:07am

Yes. But beating a losing team at home is much easier than beating an hot 8-2

ballen

8:08am

Not sure how you can say that with a straight face or any degree of confidence

ldssdl

8:10am

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