Biggest thing holding Ludwig back is the same reason every other Utah OC left

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Nov 17, 2024
8:31:06am

LV Coug All-American

Biggest thing holding Ludwig back is the same reason every other Utah OC left

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Y'all need to stop looking 4 scapegoats. ARod isn't the problem. He's a good OC

runnincoug

8:12am

He's not a good OC. FIFY.

foofcoug

8:13am

Nice argument. What's your evidence?

runnincoug

8:17am

Recruiting. Clock management. Game management. Situational awareness. Play calling. Execution. Player development.

foofcoug

8:19am

Yeah let’s rehire Anae! He sent lots of guys to the NFL … oh wait

puntersarepeople

8:24am

Why do BYU fans want to retread so many coaches? "If it's not our current guy, then it has to be the guy who coached

foofcoug

8:26am

Arod statistically is an above average OC. If you fire him, you have a greater

runnincoug

8:28am

13 points against the worst defense they faced all year. 13.

foofcoug

8:29am

You don't fire someone because of an off night. Yes they missed twice in the ...

runnincoug

8:38am

KU took away its OC's playcalling and started winning games.

88Coug

8:40am

It has been much more than 1 off night. But continue to see it that way if you like.

foofcoug

8:40am

Two off nights. Before that we led the league in scoring (or were 2nd?)

puntersarepeople

9:01am

I bring up Anae because he is a good comparison for what you would get from an

puntersarepeople

9:00am

Nice argument, where's your evidence? Any actual data like I provided?

runnincoug

8:25am

The data you provided like attributing him to recruiting 2 guys he didn't? Just because it's data doesn't mean it's fact

foofcoug

8:27am

I've shared lots more data on this thread.

runnincoug

8:28am

There was also lots of data for keeping Tuiaki - giving up yards not points. Does mean he was a good DC or that BYU

foofcoug

8:30am

ARod is the biggest thing holding the team back.

88Coug

8:14am

"holding us back?" We're 9-1. How common do you think that kind of record is?

runnincoug

8:19am

It is not because of him but in spite of him.

88Coug

8:20am

Who has he recruited himself? He doesn’t.

Magneto

8:14am

three straight NFL QBs for starters. Maybe he's great at finding lower rated

runnincoug

8:18am

Zack and Jaren were both Grimes and Kalani.

Magneto

8:22am

ARod was the offensive consultant and passing game coordinator that recruited

runnincoug

8:25am

I believe it was Grimes, Kalani, and Fesi who went after him.

Magneto

8:32am

Arod was involved. he was offensive consultant in 2017 & then Wilson's QB coach

runnincoug

8:35am

ARod coached him correct. He did not recruit Wilson nor Hall.

Magneto

9:05am

He’s Tuiaki but for offense. There’s a reason teams aren’t trying to poach him. He needs to head to FCS where he belongs

byuTX

8:16am

That's just not true at all. Tuiaki's defenses were legit horrible. Our offense

runnincoug

8:18am

He should have been let go last year after a bottom 20 offense

byuTX

8:20am

If we had done that, we wouldn't be 9-1 this year, I guarantee that.

runnincoug

8:21am

We might have been 10-0

88Coug

8:26am

Wouldn’t have lost last night for sure

byuTX

8:28am

He's not the reason we lost last night. We lost because:

runnincoug

8:32am

How can you blame KS for not calling a timeout on a false start? He didn’t

Cougarite

9:31am

He shouldn’t have called a timeout on 4th and short only to then send out the FG team

byuTX

9:37am

I'd have to look at it again, but if it seems the offense is confused or rushing

runnincoug

9:43am

I would have to look at it again too. I just remember the entire line moving

Cougarite

9:44am

If only we had a coach to coordinate this offense

byuTX

9:38am

We are 9-1 because of luck in spite of QB/coaching. Hard to say whether we would have the same luck again. D would

byuTX

8:27am

As an example, this data shows firing an OC usually doesn't help.

runnincoug

8:22am

The offense hasn't played a complete game all season. They've been buoyed by defensive and special teams TDs and

foofcoug

8:22am

Ludwig has had more success as an OC and has had to deal with a serious number of injuries last 2 seasons...

Coug

8:22am

And how did that work out for Utah, firing Ludwig twice?

runnincoug

8:23am

Made zero difference... Just like keeping ARod it's made zero difference

Coug

8:28am

Utah has a great defense and hasn’t gone 9-1 either of the last 2 years.

puntersarepeople

8:26am

CB: Whitt is horrible at managing OCs! He's so dumb! Also CB: Fire ARod despite

runnincoug

8:26am

131st in RedZone production our last 3 games, 3 offensive TD's in the last 10 quarters of football

Coug

8:36am

Now do all year. BYU is 21st in the country in red zone production.

runnincoug

8:40am

We have no significant injuries to account for the bad trend at all... It's complacentcy...

Coug

8:46am

Or ... let's think about this ... we played our rival/best defense in the conf &

runnincoug

8:54am

So a coach who regresses to the mean is awful?

puntersarepeople

9:04am

Biggest thing holding Ludwig back is the same reason every other Utah OC left

LV Coug

8:31am

And I would hire Ludwig in a second over ARod.

Coug

8:38am

He’s average. He’s not awful, like some are saying. But he’s not great either. He has terrible and good games. Average

bag

8:58am

Statistically above average. I'll agree he's not exceptional. But not the reason

runnincoug

9:44am

I like him. I think he’s innovative and adapts to his personnel. He tries to get

Cougarite

9:51am

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