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Dec 16, 12:33am

Today is the day I finally get to find out what all those killer credit card

GRCoug

4:57pm

We got our Jewish SIL the BYJew shirt. It was a hit. Happy Hannukah tonight.

Great38

4:54pm

Playing Diablo IV with my oldest son. This takes me back to my Diablo I and II

WhirleyPop

4:40pm

Diablo II Resurrected is pretty awesome.

barnacle

4:54pm

Dang i just remembered i bought that when it came out and we never played it. Tonight!

dryflyelk

4:59pm

Follow up: I had a leaky “flex line “ they said it would cost anywhere from 200-400 to fix and replace

gmoney7 All-American

4:33pm

I love Josh Allen, but Lamar deserves the MVP this season by a wide margin. He

Odysseus

4:33pm

He is playing great ball.

LifeLongLakerFan

4:33pm

Biggest nod to Allen is he doesn't have a Henry. But you can't go wrong with either guy.

CSoul

4:36pm

Is Lamar not the favorite?

PHXSUNS31

4:37pm

No. Combination of voter fatigue and Bills having a better record.

JuicyJam

4:40pm

Allen is great…My vote would be for Lamar though…wouldn’t be upset with Allen

PHXSUNS31

4:43pm

Great players but Mahomes might win another SB.

Archaea

4:40pm

Counter argument:

RdF3

4:44pm

My notes for Netflix. (Cc: Amazon prime)

shimmy Grab the keys to the friggin’

4:31pm

And put what down and distance it is

xarope8

4:34pm

Steamy? We must be watching different things.

maxpowers

4:46pm

Al Michaels isn’t established?

ForzaPuma

4:53pm

Gifted my dad a homemade BYU cornhole set for Christmas made out of

Loyal2Royal

4:29pm

That is epic!

ldssdl

4:32pm

RE: Gifted my dad a homemade BYU cornhole set for Christmas made out of

creameryon9th

4:42pm

That's awesome. Nice work

RealSimsShadY

4:44pm

You are hereby nominated for the coveted "Son of the Year" award.

cmoney

4:58pm

POLL: SEC after next round...

Xenon

4:27pm

I wonder what the estimated value is of Santa’s gifts. Worldwide since forever

Chasicle

4:26pm

RE: I wonder what the estimated value is of Santa’s gifts. Worldwide since

JC6

4:33pm

This halftime show sucks.

LifeLongLakerFan

4:25pm

That’s literally the definition and future of country music. The face of country.

TCuz

4:25pm

Can't tell if you're kidding. If you are, nice work. If you are not

LifeLongLakerFan

4:29pm

Now THAT is country music. And the world’s best country artist at that.

TCuz Coastal Elite

4:22pm

Mark Harlan liked what he saw under the tree this morning. But then he opened his presents and doesn't like what he was

zonacougar Medium Rare

4:19pm

A ring of jello was just set out on top of a bed of lettuce

wannnacruise

4:18pm

You married into that….you have to own it.

Coug98

4:21pm

In the jello heyday mayo was included

BandW

4:33pm

Not kidding

BandW

4:34pm

What the they Yewt is this half time show

Coug98

4:14pm

It’s a halftime show for those of us who are actually cultured.

RdF3

4:16pm

Cultured huh…is that what you call it? Watching her dance around in whatever

Coug98

4:19pm

You know you can turn it off

PHXSUNS31

4:21pm

Oh wow….you serious…I didn’t realize I could do that.

Coug98

4:22pm

Happy to help

PHXSUNS31

4:24pm

Much appreciated

Coug98

4:36pm

Culture of

FT487

4:27pm

Hahahahaha! Cultured. Hahahahaha!

Cnation

4:33pm

RE: What the they Yewt is this half time show

Bluedarts

4:17pm

What in the Beyonce fever dream is going on here?

CSoul Hardcore Democrat

4:12pm

Beyoncé time.

TCuz Coastal Elite

4:10pm

RE: Beyoncé time.

Nuke

4:12pm

Hard pass…she bugs.

Coug98

4:14pm

I think she's on a PR rescue campaign

cmoney

4:49pm

Speaking of good players bad person. Favre is on that list

TNT

4:02pm

Well we can agree he’s a bad person.

lilpenny

4:12pm

He was the very definition of "gunslinger"

TNT

4:14pm

Question for you finance guys (It’s a Wonderful Life)

cougarblue

3:57pm

He had more cash reserves?

P-Boy Squad

3:59pm

What doesn't make sense?

RexIdaCoug

4:00pm

Shares (deposits). Not 50% on the notes (loans). If someone had shares/deposits

Manti

4:01pm

This. The building and loan was a corporative more like a credit union than

UNLVcougar

4:18pm

He's buying at a steep discount in a panic to obtain a controlling interest

Still Blue

4:04pm

All of those people that wanted money from

The Chief

4:09pm

Another interesting tidbit

The Chief

4:10pm

What BYU-themed gifts did people get this year?

Dr MoBYU

3:57pm

(Y) tie clip, royal blue flag

Ted Lasso

4:00pm

Hat and socks

El Careeb

4:03pm

RE: What BYU-themed gifts did people get this year?

NGB

4:17pm

Royal Blue Minky Couture blanket (she knows she'll get more use out of it than I will)

Knee Brace

4:30pm

My son gave me a BYU Erne Pickle Ball Paddle.👍 Wife gave me two Y polo shirts.

OBXCougar

4:33pm

There are five great teams: KC, BUF, BAL, PHI, DET

Coop

3:55pm

Minn has a better record over three of those teams

Lekker01

3:57pm

And there are doubts about the Vikings because of Darnold

TNT

3:58pm

darnold singlehandedly saved my fantasy season.

TN_Coug

4:09pm

So guys on teams that save your fantasy season are legit teams?

TNT

4:12pm

Well he ruined mine. I went up against Darnold/Jefferson, with Lamar on bye

PHXSUNS31

4:28pm

Their schedule has been garbage. It’s nice to play the AFC South and NFC West…

Coop

4:00pm

They’ve played pretty much the same schedule as the Lions and played the Lions close

Nuke

4:13pm

I think if Cincy makes it into the playoffs they could turn some heads

HimmerFredette

4:00pm

The Rams lost to the Lions in OT and have beaten both the Bills and MN. If Puka

YbeatsU

4:10pm

Those early injuries cost them their season. Agreed on playing lights out

Lekker01

4:45pm

I think you’re right, but I think Green Bay might be able to do something in the playoffs.

Housemartin

4:33pm

Santa was nice. I now have a Jimmer signed basketball to add to my Steve Young and Ty Detmer signed footballs.

SierraCoug All-American

3:42pm

I have a football signed by the entire 1984 natty team

HimmerFredette

3:44pm

Actual signatures, or the printed ones?

byubyu

4:05pm

I’m not sure

HimmerFredette

4:08pm

SWEET. I have the student shirt signed by a few players and Mendenhall from 2006. John Beck wrote BYU 33 Utah 31 on it.

JarJarBeeps

3:59pm

Houston just wanted another safety

HimmerFredette

3:41pm

Where does Steve Young rank as NFL QBs

Archaea

3:39pm

Has to be top 50. Maybe top 25

HimmerFredette

3:41pm

Montana?

Archaea

3:41pm

What about him?

HimmerFredette

3:43pm

Where do rank him?

Archaea

3:43pm

Around 10

HimmerFredette

3:44pm

He was frustratingly timely and special

Archaea

3:45pm

Young or montana

HimmerFredette

3:46pm

Montana. I only liked SF when Young played

Archaea

3:52pm

Well I’m a cowboys fan so I have mixed feelings about that

HimmerFredette

3:54pm

TNT would say #2. But Mahomes is closing

TNT

3:59pm

Above Peyton? Really?

HimmerFredette

4:00pm

Yeah. Montana was incredibly clutch. Just like Brady

TNT

4:01pm

True. I think it is really close between Montana and Manning

HimmerFredette

4:03pm

Well and there are a bunch TNT never saw play. Bart Starr, Tarkenton, Staubach

TNT

4:05pm

There are a bunch I never saw play

HimmerFredette

4:07pm

Aikman is extremely overrated in TNT's book

TNT

4:09pm

He’s good. I am a cowboys fan so a bit biased

HimmerFredette

4:10pm

Best O-line in NFL history. Also had Michael Irvin and Emmitt Smith

TNT

4:13pm

Ya that helps

HimmerFredette

4:43pm

I saw all of them play.

Archaea

4:23pm

You ARE young.

Archaea

4:22pm

Me Or TNT

HimmerFredette

4:40pm

Both

Archaea

4:47pm

Must be above Brady, because any legitimate list has Peyton #1.

bluecougar1985

4:08pm

Young in many ways revolutionized the QB position along with Randell Cunningham, but Young had a better command of the

specsauce

3:42pm

Ahead of his time, one of the first real dual threat QBs, put up good numbers

ArcticKat

3:54pm

Top 5

AF Cougar

3:42pm

Near the bottom.

The Pope

3:45pm

15-20 years ago, he often made top 10 all-time lists. Probably still top 15-20

STL

3:47pm

20 years ago he was probably top 5. But there have been a ton of QBs who have

Duke Silver

3:47pm

Yes, he lost years of production playing behind Montana

AF Cougar

3:53pm

But I bet Montana taught him a lot. He seems like a great mentor

HimmerFredette

3:58pm

Nope. He hated Steve. This is well documented. They made up a few years ago

TNT

4:00pm

Oh my bad

HimmerFredette

4:01pm

Steve Bono and Montana both seemed to have a thing against Young for a time

BYUBandfan

4:03pm

Bono and Montana both ended up moving to KC

BYUBandfan

4:04pm

RE: Nope. He hated Steve. This is well documented. They made up a few years ago

BYUBandfan

4:09pm

Definitely Top 50. This NFL.com article has him at 15

Revolution

3:48pm

I would go with Steve over Tom Brady any time.

BYUBandfan

3:58pm

Oh cmon. That is just a little too blue goggled

TNT

4:06pm

1994 Steve was incredible

Odysseus

4:14pm

He was. Brady has six (seven?) NFL rings and was crazy clutch

TNT

4:15pm

And for the record Steve Young is TNT's favorite QB of all time

TNT

4:17pm

Yes, Young was great. But 2007 Brady was perfect.

Revolution

4:27pm

Like Steve, Tom benefited from having good coaches and teammates around him.

BYUBandfan

4:17pm

If Steve has started our on a good team instead of the LA Express and TB Bucs

BYUBandfan

4:20pm

Top 10-15, but at his peak I’d say Top 5

Odysseus

4:03pm

Top 15, IMO. Maybe Top 10. He was really good. Better than Bradshaw for sure.

Japan Coug

4:48pm

My wife gave me a ton of BYU gear for Christmas. She asked me a while back what

rebelCoug

3:38pm

Love it. I got a big byu plush rug as my main gift. Perfect for man cave

Dr MoBYU

3:44pm

I got a Y umbrella and the football 100 year history book

BYUBandfan

4:00pm

Never seen a better Santa!

CougarCanuck76

3:18pm

The BYU NFL guys who get media attention represent the school incredibly well

vagabonder

3:41pm

Utah is Christmas University

Beggar

3:09pm

I thought they had a problem finding 3 wise men etc…

jollaksentie

4:10pm

Does any US airline have good food for long haul flights?

Archaea

3:09pm

Delta has been good for Comfort+ and above. IMO.

VegasCoug

3:17pm

When? I haven’t had a good meal in Delta in years.

Archaea

3:22pm

Last week they had chocolate pistachio bread pudding as the breakfast

lilpenny

3:29pm

i hope so, have a 15 hr flight in a couple weeks on Delta

Count Cougar

4:09pm

ATL to JNB? 15 hours is about as far as they go.

TN_Coug

4:57pm

Delta is getting Shake Shack out of Logan. I thought the short rib is pretty

califcougar

3:23pm

Scheduled to arrive: Delta One Lounge food

Archaea

3:25pm

Flying to Europe on American and home on British, was amazing the difference in food quality and quantity.

Jimo Dashen

3:36pm

I think a lot of it also has to do with caterers at the airports. I fly out of Delhi at least twice a year. Even on the

specsauce

3:48pm

Foreign airlines are subsidized and Americans value low cost over food/comfort

CougieMcCougFace

3:55pm

Air France can be edible?

TN_Coug

4:49pm

Perhaps too late today; visit your local nursing facility on Christmas

BlackBart

3:09pm

We bring a basket of treats to hand out at the local hospital every Christmas

misterpepper

3:32pm

One somewhat overlooked QB star

Archaea

3:05pm

Bradshaw was good, but not great. Not a Top 25 QB. Maybe not Top 50.

Japan Coug

3:07pm

4 SBs and 2 MVPs and not top 50?

Archaea

3:11pm

it’s just hard because he played in an era where passing stats weren’t great…

PHXSUNS31

3:13pm

Tough audience. His leadership was special.

Archaea

3:16pm

That I can’t speak on…I wasn’t alive

PHXSUNS31

4:04pm

Correct. There are 22 starters in football, and the QB is only on the field for

Japan Coug

3:14pm

Who are the other QBs that have multiple SB wins who are considered pedestrian?

SierraCoug

3:20pm

Troy Aikman wasn’t all that great, and he won 3 Super Bowls. He was better than

Japan Coug

3:24pm

So you define greatness only by stats, not leadership

Archaea

3:25pm

No, by the total package. But I do believe that Super Bowl wins are much more

Japan Coug

3:28pm

So Brady and Mahomes aren’t special?

Archaea

3:31pm

I didn’t say that. I think Mahomes is probably the best QB in NFL history.

Japan Coug

3:32pm

But his stats are pedestrian this year.

Archaea

3:33pm

He will end his career with Top 5-type stats in most advanced analytics, IMO. To

Japan Coug

3:35pm

Greatest QB’s today? Of Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, & Lamar only 1 has any rings

arcawley

3:32pm

I don’t think Aikman was better. They each had 9 seasons with adjusted passer

Odysseus

3:34pm

That’s fine, I don’t feel strongly about that point. I do feel strongly that

Japan Coug

3:39pm

Both considered better than Steve Young?

Archaea

3:40pm

Only 13 QBs have won an MVP and a Super Bowl in their careers. Bradshaw is one

Odysseus

3:49pm

He won 2 SB MVP

Archaea

3:21pm

He won 4 Super Bowls. Eli Manning will likely be in the HOF too, having won two.

Japan Coug

3:33pm

I suspect the downgrading of Bradshaw is recency bias

Archaea

3:38pm

I thought that of Bradshaw back when I was in middle school. Only difference is

Japan Coug

3:43pm

You have to look at eras. Barr Starr has poor stats

Archaea

3:45pm

Bart Starr was much better than Bradshaw.

Japan Coug

3:54pm

QB ratings are always subjective, but most publications I reviewed have Bradshaw between 15-20 on list of all-time best

SierraCoug

3:50pm

Bradshaw is not top 10

HimmerFredette

3:13pm

I think he’s neck and neck with Elway when adjusting for the eras they played in

Odysseus

3:37pm

I thought Elway was much better than Bradshaw.

Japan Coug

4:02pm

Elway carried his team to 3 superbowls. Name his best offensive weapon for the

cougaman

4:38pm

I remember when he lost the starting job to Joe Gilliam, his backup also played really well. He was good and really

Osteotome

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