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it seems to me that people that are quick to explain that ARod isn't the problem

HouseDeeking

2:39am

We have video replay and reviews, why do coaches react like the ASU coach did

Y05

1:51am

unfortunately its often part of the industry based around a violent sport. Its

cwilke1

2:03am

I think this was personal because of his end of game strategy and nervous it

Pied Piper

3:37am

For the real answer you would have to ask Utah’s athletic director.

Sea Chicken

3:53am

One nice thing about the Kansas St game is that they're still alive to make CCG

Cougs4Lfe

1:40am

Puka can still realistically get 1000 yards this season.

Y05

1:32am

Glad he's looking more like last season's version. Love seeing him ball out.

Cougs4Lfe

1:35am

I like to see Puka do well while the Rams lose. It’s a win win.

Sea Chicken

3:55am

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Cougs4Lfe

1:31am

State of Utah salaries data base says USU head coach (Anderson) was only making

Das_Countach

12:58am

It would be like going back to Weber State to be HC.

Y05

2:35am

6 ACC teams and 2 Big 10 teams make up the women's soccer final 8. The 6 ACC

cwilke1

12:53am

Rady invitational

KYU All-American

12:47am

Name the great OC or DCs we’ve enjoyed since Kalani became HC.

Hawk Talons

12:26am

Also different with p4 status and more money now.

cougarfann888

12:28am

Time will tell. I don’t think our coaching pool magically enlarged substantially

Hawk Talons

12:30am

I think it increased but not as much as people think it did.

NYCougz

12:32am

Agreed

Hawk Talons

12:32am

I don’t think it’s just money that has increased it. It’s Big 12 membership,

Polecat

1:04am

still got to have coaches willing to live the honor code and teach it.

runnincoug

1:28am

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Polecat

12:50am

Idk maybe it’s me, but there’s no way Jay Hill is leaving BYU to be the HC at

bigbossbyu

12:18am

Jay will ge more opportunities at better programs.

NYCougz

12:21am

Yep this. He’ll probably have his pick of being the main guy at BYU or Utah in

bigbossbyu

12:26am

Hope we can keep him. I worry about his health too. Had a big scare not that

NYCougz

12:29am

You think kalani is out in 3-5 years?

cougarfann888

12:34am

No, nor do I think Hill is the BYU DC 5 years from now. Kind of a sucky

bigbossbyu

12:39am

Sounds like you have the future all planned out. Do you have any stock tips?

Ozymandias

12:43am

CFB coaching carousel is easier to predict than the stock market.

Y05

2:36am

Not for BYU and Utah, it isn’t.

Ozymandias

2:51am

Huh? Kalani and Scalley are both young guys.

Ozymandias

12:37am

The average length of head coaching careers is getting smaller. Kalani is

Polecat

1:09am

Kalani is 49. He will likely be at BYU now as long as he wants. Scalley is 45

Ozymandias

1:14am

My point is things are unpredictable, and modern college football coaches stay

Polecat

1:19am

Do you think that the odds are that in 5 years someone other than Kalani or

Ozymandias

1:22am

They say never replace a legend. Scalley will be doing just that in a new world

Polecat

1:30am

Haha. Their defense has been good to very good this year. He gets 4 years

Ozymandias

2:33am

That just seems like nonsense to me.

YSMACK

12:35am

What does the HC make at UsU?

NYCougz

12:40am

Google says $1.3M. You think he makes less now?

NYCougz

12:42am

He makes 1 m now. He will likely be offered 1.4 by USU

YSMACK

12:45am

I just don’t see it. Maybe he’s desperate to be the main guy, we’ll see. But to

bigbossbyu

12:54am

It seems like we could come up with another $400 and give him associate HC role

NYCougz

12:58am

They surely would pay more for Hill. And Hill could parlay that job to a huge

Hawk Talons

12:46am

I agree it’s nonsense that USU is some kind of terrible gig that Hill wouldn’t

Polecat

1:17am

BYU fans should be worried. The way to becoming my a coach at a P4 program for

Ozymandias

12:36am

Idk if Hill is they type of coach that needs a G5 HC gig at USU to land at a

bigbossbyu

1:05am

What coordinators from a BYU type program have gone from a coordinator to HC

Ozymandias

1:11am

When has BYU ever been a P4 program? Not saying he’d be a run away candidate,

bigbossbyu

1:16am

I asked for a BYU type program. Show me a Baylor coordinator or a

Ozymandias

1:19am

So you’re essentially saying his FCS coach experience is enough to land a P4

Polecat

1:28am

BYU is in playoff and conference championship contention.

Y05

2:49am

Show me a comparable program where a coordinator went from coordinator to

Ozymandias

3:53am

I love Hill, but in typical CB fashion, some of you act like there are no other

Thrill

12:15am

Losing Jay would be huge.

NYCougz

12:16am

Of course there are. But I doubt they would have the on field and recruiting

Hawk Talons

12:18am

Hill is unique in that he’s been a HC before as well, so prob helps Kalani w/

Das_Countach

1:22am

Dallin Leavitt. Here is the clip from his pick against BYU. I remember being

Ozymandias

12:14am

Here's another angle of it

ryebrye

12:17am

It's amazing the capability that AI can already do. Here's some old paintings that have been morphed into videos.

Zenoch All-American

12:04am

It's hard to trust any video anymore. Could be doctored so easy now

TNT

12:06am

That’s really cool

Breaded Hamster

12:10am

Ute Twitter is running with the idea that the Big12 refs are out to get them.

YOHONOMOTO

12:02am

They have had so many lucky breaks the last 10-12 years. It's

cougarfann888

12:07am

Is there a replay of the holding call? How do you get a holding on a FG attempt?

BenTheBoss

12:09am

This is only a guess but maybe like the defense gets one on an offensive running play. They grab the offensive player

Chemish

1:20am

I’m just sitting back and smiling

hdx57

1:24am

I honestly feel the competitive future for BYU hinges on keeping Jay Hill.

Hawk Talons

Nov 24, 11:59pm

Jay is is an excellent coach and great resource, but he’s not the be all end

Polecat

12:02am

Then why not get someone better than ARod? Hill is showing he gets it done

TNT

12:03am

Arod is Kalani’s third OC, and my guess is it he won’t be his last. I know TNT

Polecat

12:11am

Do you understand how difficult it is to find a DC as good as Hill to coach at

Hawk Talons

12:05am

People here think Bronco was an elite DC. Now we have Hill. Gary Andersen

Polecat

12:18am

I disagree. I’ll bookmark this to see who is correct.

Hawk Talons

12:21am

Are you predicting BYU is on the brink of collapse ? What exactly do you

Polecat

12:23am

I disagree with your dismissal of Jay Hill and the thinking he is replaceable by

Hawk Talons

12:28am

I actually said neither of those things. Although I will say almost nobody

Polecat

12:34am

I’m sure they will. Just like they found Detmer, Tuiaki, Grimes, and Howell.

Hawk Talons

12:38am

Dude I’m not commenting on Hill at all. I’m saying BYU is a quality

Polecat

12:51am

I don’t think we are on the brink of disaster. But I don’t think we will find a

Hawk Talons

12:55am

I’m not in the interest of comparing coaches, Hill is great. Somewhere

Polecat

12:59am

For weeks now Utah’s conference record on ESPN and a few other places has been

Nittany Cougar

Nov 24, 11:46pm

Baylor was not a conference game. Scheduled pre Big12 invite, and doesn’t count in conference

WP17

Nov 24, 11:48pm

Baylor didn't count as a conference game.

yorksama

Nov 24, 11:49pm

IIRC the Baylor game had been previously scheduled as an OOC game

Hinta

Nov 24, 11:49pm

But the Big12 still hates Utah, right? Right?!?!

Nittany Cougar

Nov 24, 11:55pm

College football is a funny thing. We’ve all become conditioned to think the

Polecat

12:57am

BYU is slow to fire bad coaches. Do coaches consider that a perk?

maYbe

Nov 24, 11:41pm

Better job security

TNT

Nov 24, 11:42pm

Kind of like the Steelers.

maYbe

Nov 24, 11:52pm

Give us the power and we will have new fresh coaches every year.

NYCougz

Nov 24, 11:46pm

Except for the guy who was the most decorated player in BYU history

LongtimeLurker

Nov 24, 11:53pm

who had arguably the worst offense in his own lifetime

FieroCoug

Nov 24, 11:55pm

You know who else is slow to fire coaches? The Pittsburgh Steelers. They’ve

gwalker

Nov 24, 11:55pm

Nebraska firing Frank solich for 9-3 seasons was not a good idea

NYCougz

Nov 24, 11:58pm

Firing Larry cocker at Miami after two 9-3 seasons didn’t work out great

NYCougz

12:05am

The last time BYU needed to fire a head coach, I think they did it right when

Polecat

12:07am

The recording of Batty being posted on X by a Ute fan is par for the course. Reminds me what Utes did to Spencer Hadley.

SierraCoug All-American

Nov 24, 11:40pm

That was Utah's Compliance office. Even worse

BYU '80

12:10am

One very underrated ability that Jake has shown since he became the starter...

Ja'Crispy

Nov 24, 11:28pm

He’s resilient and a real leader. He’s played the most challenging schedule in byu history. Not flawless but dangerous

GoodBetterBestBYU

Nov 24, 11:31pm

That’s a good description.

NYCougz

Nov 24, 11:56pm

If Whitt retires, Scalley goes to HC, Hill goes up there to DC

OU Cougar

Nov 24, 11:23pm

It’s very unlikely Hill moves laterally for less money

WP17

Nov 24, 11:24pm

And a heckuva lot less security. BYU is stable, Utah is in crisis and unknown.

runnincoug

Nov 24, 11:27pm

And work for a defensive coach as a defensive coach. Jay will want to run it

NYCougz

Nov 24, 11:36pm

Please tell me why Hill goes? Especially bc if scalley gets axed so does hill. If hill stays and s alley gets axed now

BYU Grounds

Nov 24, 11:28pm

Won’t happen

GoodBetterBestBYU

Nov 24, 11:29pm

Wouldn't it be great if people stopped wetting their pants every time some dumb rumor comes out?

ManicBlue

Nov 24, 11:33pm

This is more likely related to an undiagnosed or untreated incontinence issue.

Nittany Cougar

Nov 24, 11:51pm

Having great coaches is a double-edged sword.

dut99002

12:00am

0 chance. He’ll let Scalley and Utah feel it out for 2-3 years and if at that

bigbossbyu

12:32am

Do you just like to make stuff up?

LifeLongLakerFan

1:05am

I'm not an attorney, isn't this a felony? A.R.S. § 13-3005

Uno Doctoro

Nov 24, 11:20pm

Maybe but Probably not. Idaho has a similar statute and there is a debate

cougarfann888

Nov 24, 11:56pm

Why has the offense faltered at the worst time?

Countcougula

Nov 24, 11:17pm

…arod

Das_Countach

Nov 24, 11:19pm

I'm not sure they've ever been that good. I am starting to think that the

Emmett Fitz-Hume

Nov 24, 11:28pm

This is how football games are. Alabama put up 3 in a must win game.

NYCougz

Nov 24, 11:51pm

Don’t you know BYU is just supposed to beat everyone 66-3? And if they don’t,

Polecat

12:31am

I’m get emotional during games like we all do.

NYCougz

12:35am

Every fan base thinks their OC is a terrible play caller. The reality is the

Polecat

12:47am

It's 2-2 on last-minute long drives but has otherwise been bad all year.

vagabonder

Nov 24, 11:41pm

This is so stupid and not even close to true.

Polecat

12:27am

I’d say the D faltered too…

Pretorian

Nov 24, 11:50pm

But you see the defense is coached by Jay Hill. He’d probably have to start

Polecat

12:29am

Film

HouseDeeking

2:44am

Jay Hill’s bio, born in Lehi, served a mission in Puerto Rico, played at Ricks

OU Cougar

Nov 24, 11:16pm

I’ve been really impressed with the Oregon State DL this year. If Jay Hill left

DieHarder

Nov 24, 11:15pm

What about New Mexico's DC?

Great38

Nov 24, 11:36pm

POLL: Personal feelings aside, if you're an NFL GM, and you need a starting QB now, who would you rather have?

Mr. Belding Truly Addicted User

Nov 24, 11:05pm

Three ways for BYU to deal with Jay Hill assuming he is offered the USU job:

Emmett Fitz-Hume

Nov 24, 11:03pm

So we have to pay him or we get Howell? Yikes.

puntersarepeople

Nov 24, 11:05pm

#3 doesn't ring a bell. SERENITY NOW!!!!!!!!!

TNT

Nov 24, 11:08pm

pay the man, he's the best guy for our defense and culture.

4mack

Nov 24, 11:13pm

HC @ USU or really any G5 now is essentially a JUCO HC today w/ all the turnover

Das_Countach

Nov 24, 11:24pm

This is how I see it. You can’t keep a roster together in the G5

deliciousmocha

Nov 24, 11:28pm

That's limited to the G5?

TNT

Nov 24, 11:41pm

RE: That's limited to the G5?

deliciousmocha

12:27am

Last thing.. Any rationale as to how that wasn't intentional grounding?

Yes

Nov 24, 10:58pm

Crazy enough, some reports say it was called intentional grounding.

Madam Pattirini

Nov 24, 11:19pm

The Last of Us

TNT

Nov 24, 10:58pm

Wait till you see what they did to Ron Swanson

SJS

Nov 24, 10:59pm

Have a feeling KSU v ISU going to break a record for most 👀 this year

Kolobrdm

Nov 24, 10:56pm

Jay Hill is getting poached 2 years into the job and ARod has gone 6 seasons with no interest…

WP17 King of the Kenai

Nov 24, 10:51pm

USU is a career killer. If he goes there he's not very smart.

Blueto

Nov 24, 10:56pm

Not at all the point of this post- more an observation that he’s being considered and A rod isn’t

WP17

Nov 24, 10:57pm

How do you know ARod hasn't had interest from other schools? Are you his spouse?

ManicBlue

Nov 24, 11:02pm

It becomes public, just like it has w/ Hill. Arod’s not a sought after commodity

Das_Countach

Nov 24, 11:27pm

Sure. There is usually a press release about it. Everyone knows..

NYCougz

Nov 24, 11:55pm

Unless of course it doesn’t become public.

Polecat

Nov 24, 11:59pm

Trust me, it gets out there if they want it or not

Das_Countach

12:01am

Why would I trust a random dude on CB? These discussions will and do

NYCougz

12:03am

You don’t know that everyone knows about every time a coach has discussions

NYCougz

12:01am

lol, bro, no ones trying to poach Arod, just like no one tried to poach Tuiaki

Das_Countach

12:04am

Well if das countach says so, obviously that must be true.

NYCougz

12:07am

It is, if you want to believe it or not 😂

Das_Countach

12:10am

You would know. I remember when people didn’t think highly of bronco

NYCougz

12:13am

I know more than I think you realize, and thats why I laugh at you pushing back

Das_Countach

12:19am

About how it goes public when every coach has discussions with other?

NYCougz

12:24am

Wasn’t for Gary Anderson. Jay knows how to recruit Utah and small programs.

Bin01015

Nov 24, 10:59pm

and Matt Wells used that job as a springboard to a P4 head coach job

cwilke1

12:05am

It is what it is

TNT

Nov 24, 10:58pm

You have no idea who has or hasn’t reached out to ARod. If he doesn’t want to go

gwalker

Nov 24, 10:59pm

This is true. The guys that turn down offers don’t make the headlines.

Mexicougazul

Nov 24, 11:04pm

The people that bashed ARod all summer and then simmered because they couldn’t

gwalker

Nov 24, 11:07pm

RE: The people that bashed ARod all summer and then simmered because they couldn’t

PJMort

Nov 24, 11:15pm

I still find the energy to challenge them when they try and retroject the last 2

Polecat

Nov 24, 11:56pm

If ARod was interviewing at other schools that information isn't going to be kept a secret. Nobody wants ARod

Coug

Nov 24, 11:13pm

💯

Das_Countach

Nov 24, 11:28pm

You do understand that him not interested means him not interviewing, right?

kimdaddy35

Nov 24, 11:50pm

I have some idea to say he hasn’t gotten serious interest. You might also recall he’s already been fired once at Utah.

WP17

Nov 24, 11:20pm

Oh he must be bad then. It’s really hard to be fired as offensive coordinator

Polecat

Nov 24, 11:58pm

You’re forgetting about Arod’s mind changing instances earlier in his career

Polecat

Nov 24, 11:01pm

Jay Hill is very good.

OU Cougar

Nov 24, 11:03pm

Totally whenever I see a team go 9-2, first thing I think is:

Polecat

Nov 24, 11:04pm

It is when they have legitimate issues- just ask Austin Collie

WP17

Nov 24, 11:23pm

My point is not that the offense doesn’t have issues or that Roderick has no

Polecat

Nov 24, 11:44pm

…your theory falls apart with Utah and Ok St

Das_Countach

Nov 24, 11:29pm

And general QB recruiting pipeline.

WP17

Nov 24, 11:30pm

💯

Das_Countach

12:13am

the offense was good against OSU, and while it was bad against utah, 22 points being bad is a really GOOD sign that

FieroCoug

Nov 24, 11:35pm

He was good against Utah when the game was online, and especially good against

Polecat

Nov 24, 11:36pm

Man let’s just go get any OC we want. Easy peasy.

NYCougz

Nov 24, 11:34pm

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