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Here is some of our defensive stats. After reviewing these, how many wins does BYU have if we had an "average" defense?

byujacob INSUFFERABLE KNOW IT ALL

1:56am

7 or 8? Average defense + a little above average offense + above average ST

Rhubarb

2:12am

8 maybe.

NYCougz

2:16am

Our D had an awesome year and killed it tonight.

NYCougz

2:24am

BYU ABSOLUTELY should have been in the playoffs

Bigtimeballer

1:29am

Eh. I'm over it. You should move on too.

byujacob

1:31am

We controlled our own destiny is not a great argument.

NYCougz

1:31am

How else would you describe starting 9-0 and then going 1-3 to end the season?

LOLzzz

1:42am

First of all, we didn't go 1-3. So there's that.

byujacob

1:46am

Every team that didn’t win the conference could say the same thing.

NYCougz

1:55am

So if even if we won out (which was ver possible) you don’t think we would have

LOLzzz

2:24am

Of course we would have been. If we went undefeated, we would be in

NYCougz

2:26am

Which 3 games did BYU lose?

mulletino

2:03am

Kansas, ASU, Big12 tiebreakers

robin

2:24am

LOLzzz

Ozymandias

3:08am

11-2. Let’s move on and hope the ACC isn’t given two spots next year.

SausageKing

1:32am

in some ways the ACC essentially had 3 with ND

palangi

1:34am

We need Arizona St to do well.

Jstak17

2:24am

i agree, but i’m not super upset with it either. if i had higher expectations

FieroCoug

1:32am

We potentially are top 12 but didn't win when we needed to. SMU didn't get

johnnybyu

1:33am

Don't say why we lost to KU or those with blinders will throw more tantrums.

88Coug

1:34am

several playoff teams had worse losses, and BYUs other loss was far better

FieroCoug

1:36am

Bias for the two top conferences is going to be there. Only way to change it is

Jstak17

2:33am

BYU was the only ranked team colorado played and all the stars were playing.

FieroCoug

2:34am

Common opponents shows something else imo. However far you want to take that.

Jstak17

2:53am

Nah they lost the play in game against Arizona State. They win that game and they get to play again. 1-3 down the

KYU

1:44am

timing of losses only matters to make bad non conference losses irrelevant for

FieroCoug

1:51am

Should be based on full body of work.

NYCougz

2:19am

It’s funny how so many have in their heads that we went 1-3 down the stretch.

Your Royal Blueness

1:57am

Maybe the committee thought we lost 3 games?!?

NYCougz

2:05am

Which should not matter at all. So should we schedule a fcs game late to

NYCougz

2:04am

The problem is the perception of the conference. More than just us. The team

Jstak17

2:36am

No question the big 10 and sec have huge perception advantages.

NYCougz

2:40am

Teams I would have liked to see have a crack at the playoffs this year:

Countcougula

1:48am

I like where it’s at. But they should make all teams play one or two out of

Jstak17

2:56am

Good argument for two teams out of the Big Twelvd. Which probably adds Iowa St

Jstak17

2:23am

Colorado’s mascot was totally foreshadowing their team’s performance.

bluesloth

1:28am

Was that a baby Buffalo? I always thought they were bigger…

CougieMcCougFace

1:43am

Definitely an adolescent

Countcougula

2:07am

It's what you get when you give America's great beast over to Liberals to raise.

SinkingQuffa

1:57am

I think it’s a female and on small side

JamieTartt

2:20am

Anybody know what the TV viewership was for tonight’s game?

Crowgar All-American

1:27am

It takes a few days for those numbers to be available.

kalifi

1:31am

I’ll bet they know them already. How could they not know?

Crowgar

1:37am

Because they get ratings data from a third party (Nielsen) who compiles the data

bluesloth

1:53am

I watched with my dad so it was at least two

HandwovenBox

1:51am

Ooooooooo......and Dallas-Philly in the morning. Go Eagles

TNT

1:14am

nice to see on social media that everyone noticed the media glazing colorado

FieroCoug

1:01am

My wife is on Twitter/X 90/10 for politics vs sports…

cajuncoug

1:16am

This is exactly why our bowl game was awful

DodgerCoug

12:58am

POP Tart post game was fantastic

johnnybyu

12:59am

Pop tarts spent like $8b today. Got a fun game though.

NYCougz

12:59am

They brought frosted strawberry back from the dead in a whole ceremony.

CougieMcCougFace

1:12am

Best bowl game sponsor for the bowl season

GoodBetterBestBYU

1:01am

It’s amazing how much I laughed with people dressed like pop tarts

NYCougz

1:01am

I’m absolutely buying a box of Pop Tarts this week

DodgerCoug

1:02am

The crunchy ones??

NYCougz

1:02am

What flavor?

TNT

1:08am

Jake Retzlaff rushing stats compared to other QBs in cfb:

byujacob INSUFFERABLE KNOW IT ALL

12:58am

Good for him. Lots of clutch runs for not being a “dual threat” QB but a pretty well rounded game manager

GoodBetterBestBYU

1:02am

How many BYU QBs have had more rushing TDs in a season?

Japan Coug

1:18am

That’s a good question. Did taysom ever play enough games?

NYCougz

1:25am

If they all return, could be an all time LB core in '25. Fastest ever perhaps

cajuncoug

12:55am

Amazing performances tonight

GoodBetterBestBYU

1:03am

Esera has amazing closing speed as well

RUNBYU1

1:09am

Man with all four of those guys makes you wonder if they shouldn’t do some 3-4 sometimes?

KYU

1:11am

Anyone know when Swanson leaves for his mission? Here for spring?

BYURider

12:55am

The sooner the better.

JuicyJam

12:55am

On postgame said he's leaving in a few weeks.

Leemur

12:56am

He leaves at the very end of January

Hawk Talons

1:10am

It was so wonderful to see BYU's D shut down COL on 3rd down repeatedly. COL was

Hinta

12:52am

Started with stuffing the run. Great blitz packages after that

NYCougz

12:54am

😂 I wonder what he’s on about.

BYUGardner

12:51am

The internet is undefeated

NYCougz

12:52am

His follow up tweet, in case there was any doubt (language warning):

ldssdl

1:14am

I’m here to eat crow.

AZPTCOUG

12:51am

Why do you hate BYU so much?

swingcat

12:54am

You mean you’re here to gloat? You were in the minority my man… congratulations

KYU

12:54am

Yes, that’s exactly right.

AZPTCOUG

12:58am

You were freaking nuts. Did you get your head checked because you should have

KYU

1:09am

Good for you! Most here thought Colorado would crush us as well. The team sure

Jstak17

2:38am

Wow, you were more optimistic than I was. I thought we’d be a lot better and get to a bowl but not this good

GoodBetterBestBYU

1:04am

Connor Pay with a funny post.

Sandstone Cougar Your true friend

12:50am

One of the great interviews of the last several years

cajuncoug

1:00am

Does Colorado have a rival? Seemed like Nebraska was a big deal for them.

CougGolf

12:50am

Colorado St?

TANK

12:52am

Utah?

Ski-U-Mah

1:06am

Next year’s game against them will be huge. They will be out for revenge. Could be the start of a great rivalry between

KYU

1:15am

I think Colorado State is their biggest rival now, and Nebraska is probably #2.

Japan Coug

1:27am

Nebraska was HUGE rival. My neighbor who is a huge N fan wanted us to win so bad

King of Y

1:34am

BYU has had 3 top 10 (or so) seasons in the last 5 years and this is by far the

Lcoug

12:49am

We all know what powered BYU to the win tonight: The Power Of AJ Dybantsa

TNT

12:45am

The under the legs dunk unlocked Eagle powers

GoodBetterBestBYU

12:49am

This post forgives a lot of TNT sins

KYU

1:16am

It’s like an indulgence

GoodBetterBestBYU

1:17am

I'm not sure how things work on the other side... #DeekThoughts

HouseDeeking

12:45am

Jake Retzlaff compared to top 100 FBS players with at least 1000 yards passing:

byujacob INSUFFERABLE KNOW IT ALL

12:42am

Hard to not feel like we were one great QB away from conference champ

775coug

12:46am

We were one flukey pooch punt bounce off a DB’s helmet away from the CCG.

Japan Coug

1:30am

Or Jake’s pass before the half…

775coug

1:50am

Or many other plays.

NYCougz

2:02am

You could also say that we were one endzone interception away from the CCG.

byujacob

2:05am

Or a third down stop or an onside recovery…etc etc etc

NYCougz

2:18am

It's like you have a personal grudge. Did Jake give your wife an autograph?

LSUcougar92

12:47am

I'm just posting his stats. Why do you feel like his stats are negative?

byujacob

12:47am

Your stat Cherry-picking is interesting. He seems to live in your head rent free

LSUcougar92

12:48am

What other stats would you like to see?

byujacob

12:49am

How about where he ranks among QBs with 15 games of D1 experience with 11 wins in second season

GoodBetterBestBYU

1:17am

TD’s? YPA?

palangi

1:31am

Updated

byujacob

1:45am

I’m excited for his analysis of every position.

NYCougz

12:57am

He didn’t say anything subjective 😂

775coug

12:48am

Ya think

KYU

1:19am

Of those top 100, only 16 have 11 or more wins. Jake is one of them

bigbossbyu

12:52am

How many of them have a Jay Hill defense?

775coug

1:16am

I’d wager at least half

bigbossbyu

1:18am

Yet they still had that big Menorah in front of the Alamo

calvindyer

12:56am

Now overlay that data with wins and see who drops out? I think you are straining at gnats and ignore so many

GoodBetterBestBYU

1:10am

Remind me your “why” in this exercise? Do you advocate we send Jake to the portal for someone else? Start Bohanan?

GoodBetterBestBYU

1:13am

I'm just posting his stats.

byujacob

1:29am

RE: I'm just posting his stats.

porl thompson

2:29am

One big positive from Retzlaff this year: He’s been a very good read option QB.

DC15

12:41am

Imagine being so bad at defense that you give up 49 points to Colorado

LaVellIfIKnow

12:41am

I’ve seriously been trying to figure that out for that last several hours.

Cougar Jazz Fan

12:51am

Imagine thinking Colorado is the best team you'll face all year, so you justify

HouseDeeking

2:40am

Hans Olsen coming back to the fold very lucky, the U dumpster fire would be

SwanSong

12:39am

The only thing that’s changed about Hans is your perception of him. He has not changed at all. He was never a Ute homer

KYU

12:40am

He absolutely was a homer

YOHONOMOTO

12:46am

100%.

COUGZ

12:50am

It’s a pretty accurate litmus test of fan intelligence.

KYU

12:51am

Agree with almost all that but he has/had a man crush on Whit.

shimmy

12:47am

He has a crush on good football, and Whittingham has produced some really good football.

KYU

12:50am

It’s Whitt personally. And that’s fine

shimmy

1:00am

I don't think he was a Utah homer, I think he was positive towards Utah to avoid

LSUcougar92

12:41am

He was positive to Utah and negative to BYU consistently.

YOHONOMOTO

12:47am

That’s because Utah had consistently produced good football and BYU had not.

KYU

12:51am

Dude acted like they were Bama when they were losing 4 games to the Plaque12

YOHONOMOTO

2:08am

Love that Jamaal’s mom is still a huge BYU fan and supporter.

BYUHawk

12:33am

Awesome, Jamaal is my fav and even tho idk his mom, she’s awesome too

ByuImaginesDragons

12:37am

He is the one guy in the NFL that makes it look pretty fun still.

calvindyer

12:41am

Yeah that’s because he doesn’t take himself too seriously and

ByuImaginesDragons

1:05am

Big 12 QBs compared to Jake:

byujacob INSUFFERABLE KNOW IT ALL

12:30am

average P4 QB. major progress from last year. hopefully he improves even more

FieroCoug

12:31am

Good take

KYU

1:06am

Not great

OnEMoReTrY

12:32am

Not bad either. Closer to great than bad actually

bigbossbyu

12:40am

Most important stat, 11-2 as a starter in 2024.

LSUcougar92

12:33am

Only guys I like as well or better coming back are Leavitt and Becht

GoodBetterBestBYU

12:35am

With another year under his belt.

NYCougz

12:35am

Agreed good insight

GoodBetterBestBYU

12:36am

I wonder what that would look like with a Tuiaki defense

FatThor

12:44am

Yessir

KYU

1:06am

Good game manager to log 11 wins.. played hurt. Good, positive leader. Bet he’ll be better next year.

GoodBetterBestBYU

12:34am

With a mid defense this a .500 team, imo

deliciousmocha

12:36am

nah if the defense was about the same as the offense BYU still wins 8 or 9 games

FieroCoug

1:31am

I disagree

byujacob

1:40am

"Hey QB recruits... come to BYU where after you go 11-2 fans will sit in their basement and rip you apart."

HarlemCoug

12:36am

We are the NY Yankees fans of quarterbacks

NYCougz

12:39am

😂

GoodBetterBestBYU

12:41am

I'm not ripping him apart. I'm just showing his stats compared to other QBs.

byujacob

12:42am

You are staying pretty late after an amazing win and an amazing season

NYCougz

12:44am

If you think I'm ripping him apart by doing side by side comparisons, what does that tell you about your interpretation

byujacob

12:45am

I’m asking the question of why you are posting it.

NYCougz

12:47am

I'm just posting a side by side comparison for discussion. You are the one who thinks it's negative.

byujacob

12:48am

Lot of work for a point. What is it?

GoodBetterBestBYU

12:49am

Ok. Will you be analyzing just this position or others?

NYCougz

12:50am

Just take the L

JoeExotic

2:16am

What are you talking about? Bizarre post.

NYCougz

2:21am

We are the fan base that booed bosco

NYCougz

12:45am

Or go to the SEC where they love you no matter what

shimmy

12:48am

Don’t know how his rushing stats compare to the rest of the league, but when

bigbossbyu

12:46am

Yes he has kept drives and wins alive with beautiful timed runs. He’s also taken some brutal hits and gotten up.

GoodBetterBestBYU

12:51am

Thanks all for the angry boardmails. TNT has learned his lesson. Thank you

TNT

12:28am

Please share. I’d like to learn too!

Crowgar

12:44am

TNT is dum and he is wrong. Also his mother gets around

TNT

12:46am

Does she hang with Mrs Wilson?

Crowgar

12:52am

They didn't specify

TNT

12:55am

Crazy how the 1-seed, undefeated Oregon, arguably has the toughest opponent in

garyfan

12:27am

As a bracket purist, the byes going to the conf champs really screws it up

Coog4Life

12:30am

No perfect system. But yeah I had to explain to my wife that

NYCougz

12:38am

I like the byes. But I think the 2 seed should get to pick their opponent after

cougarfann888

12:38am

Just reseed after the first round

1984coug

12:42am

Did the committee give byes to ASU & BSU to keep them from hosting 1st round

jordbyu

12:54am

The 4 highest-rated conference champs get a bye, by rule.

garyfan

12:58am

So from my amateur viewpoint, it seems like the Cougs completely outcoached them

calvindyer

12:25am

Like they said on the call the D was giving Shadeur looks he hadn't seen before

TNT

12:26am

Ralphie did look tired. He must of known what was coming.

Lance71

12:27am

Imagine how Peggy must feel if a young spry Ralphie already knew

calvindyer

12:32am

The Buff fans by us said Ralphie was very young…this was only her (they made a point that she’s a her) second year and

cruiserhead

12:41am

An omen of things to come.

88Coug

12:55am

I think they are always female

Remigius

1:10am

Just finished game after I had to pause it at halftime for a few hours. Probably the

SayMyName All-American

12:25am

2018 and 2020 bowl games ZW was on fire. Against lesser competition but still

wildwilderness

1:03am

How does Glasker not get drafted this year? Stoked to have him back, but he had

TO11

12:24am

Is he eligible to get drafted yet?

CougfromtheSouth

12:25am

No, he isn’t eligible for the draft

12:38am

Yes he is since it’s been 3 years removed from HS (and he’s a RS So to boot)

molodyets

12:46am

A mission immediately after HS hasn’t ever been counted as part of the 3 years

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