Well Jay Hill vs ARod

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Mar 31, 2025
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Nus coming home!

finnish_blue

Mar 31, 7:49am

Nice. Picked us over the U.

oxcoug

Mar 31, 7:51am

RE: Nice. Picked us over the U.

BYU Grounds

Mar 31, 8:13am

A W over the UUs

JodyGenessy

Mar 31, 12:07pm

Highlights...

mokelembembe

Mar 31, 7:51am

I thought for sure I'd see my son get demolished in those higlights. I did not!

Belboz

Mar 31, 8:53am

I'm not sure why this got an eye roll. That's some impressive film. The kid is

Iron Coug

Mar 31, 12:39pm

Wow.

snowbird

Mar 31, 7:54am

4 star on 247, 9 P4 offers

Riggins Rigs

Mar 31, 7:58am

Looks like we're only pulling defensive players from the top prospects in Utah.

Undefeated

Mar 31, 8:06am

Ah yes, noted defensive lineman and BYU commit Austin Pay.

Rise Against

Mar 31, 8:07am

Sorry I was meaning skill positions. Was in a hurry. But that's only one. No

Undefeated

Mar 31, 8:14am

Well Jay Hill vs ARod

TNT

Mar 31, 8:15am

You do realize ARod got a 4 star wide receiver in this class, right?

Rise Against

Mar 31, 8:16am

The topic was in state recruiting battles. Hoping Utah isn't becoming like Arizo

Undefeated

Mar 31, 8:22am

There was only 1 skill player in Utah in the top 10. 5 star Jerome Myles.

Rise Against

Mar 31, 8:25am

Did I say top 10? Did I bring arod into it? Was I hand wringing? No. I brought

Undefeated

Mar 31, 8:30am

We have an excellent chance to get 6 of the top 10 in state recruits for '26.

Rise Against

Mar 31, 8:46am

Agree with all that. My response to your response to TNT however said nothing

Undefeated

Mar 31, 8:50am

If they’re not a top 10-15 recruit they’re usually not worth offering

puntersarepeople

Mar 31, 8:52am

Iirr, historically we've had a lot of studs from in-state that weren't top 15.

Undefeated

Mar 31, 9:01am

I guess my point is it becomes pretty iffy at that point

puntersarepeople

Mar 31, 11:11am

Well and lots of top 15 guys flame out and don't make it as well. Look back

Undefeated

Mar 31, 1:48pm

So you’ll only give ARod kudos if he gets 1) Offensive 2) Skill Players 3) from

BamaCoug

Mar 31, 8:55am

I never said anything about A-Rod or dumping on him or kudos. I made a corrected

Undefeated

Mar 31, 9:18am

Fair enough. Looked at the 247 list and 8 of the top 13 in-state recruits are…

BamaCoug

Mar 31, 10:29am

TNT eagerly awaits

TNT

Mar 31, 8:34am

RE: TNT eagerly awaits

Zip

Mar 31, 6:19pm

If Im ranking coaches recruiting ability, Hill is a high 4* & Arod is a low 3*

Das_Countach

Mar 31, 10:00am

ARods list actually looks pretty similar

puntersarepeople

Mar 31, 11:20am

This is correct

I'mBatman

Mar 31, 12:03pm

The difference is that Arod has his position coaches more involved

Das_Countach

Mar 31, 12:12pm

Transitioning into a narrative because the data doesn't support your argument.

puntersarepeople

Mar 31, 12:36pm

Fight! Fight! Fight!

TNT

Mar 31, 1:13pm

Bro, let's look at 4*+ talent on both offense and defense since 2023...

Das_Countach

Mar 31, 2:57pm

Well your data isn’t accurate so it hardly blows up the narrative

puntersarepeople

Mar 31, 6:06pm

lol, LJ, that Unga recruited? And Madsen will be 95% LB 5% RB, if at all

Das_Countach

Mar 31, 8:12pm

...also, Arod has had YEARS to build up his recruiting, and hes proven hes just

Das_Countach

Mar 31, 8:16pm

Haha you’re resorting to narrative again since the data didn’t back you up

puntersarepeople

Mar 31, 8:56pm

I get it, you cant debunk what Ive laid out so u deflect— solid tactic that lets

Das_Countach

Mar 31, 10:21pm

AROD is about to get the biggest catch of all as well.

Thrill

Mar 31, 10:42am

Tiresome, for heavens sake

Hammurabi

Mar 31, 5:57pm

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puntersarepeople

Mar 31, 8:43am

Not sure why recruits from Utah are more important to so many on CB than others

NYC and Japan

Mar 31, 8:54am

Ill take top Utah Poly kids all day every day as LB, S, DL, OL & RBs. Primarily

Das_Countach

Mar 31, 10:24am

Nusi is a monster. I'm so excited to see our DE talent take a huge leap.

Rise Against

Mar 31, 8:06am

It's awesome. I'm just waiting for the interior DL recruitment to catch up

oxcoug

Mar 31, 8:07am

Yeah, while it's getting better and we have some studs finally, the high school

Rise Against

Mar 31, 8:10am

Is it possible that some of these edge athletes will move to the inside?

Goatnapper'96

Mar 31, 8:14am

Yeah I've heard that Fetuli has the frame to be a DT if he can put the weight on

Rise Against

Mar 31, 8:15am

Wow. That's kind of a big deal. Really adds some depth to the LB room.

Adrielle

Mar 31, 8:06am

That was already the deepest position on the team

puntersarepeople

Mar 31, 8:48am

It’s not like they don’t get dinged up there.

niqmadu

Mar 31, 9:00am

Wow is right.Plays 3 positions, LB, DE and RB, a fast beast playmaker everywhere

Coug76

Mar 31, 8:08am

That was the TCU model they used to great effectiveness

squidmark

Mar 31, 10:51am

It's beginning.

kccougar

Mar 31, 8:22am

RE: Nus coming home!

BlueBlitzkrieg

Mar 31, 8:58am

RE: Nus coming home!

gangbusters

Mar 31, 9:09am

Feels like this player type was often going to Utah during the 2010s. BYU rollin

pinolero

Mar 31, 9:13am

Wow! that highlight video is something... that's a great pick up

Coug

Mar 31, 9:14am

Additional X post from Nus

Negative Equity

Mar 31, 10:19am

Defense doing great. Offense, you’re up.

byujdmba

Mar 31, 11:32am

What are you talking about? Per 247:

molodyets

Mar 31, 11:45am

Madsen could play LB but the overall trend is that both are rising since B12

puntersarepeople

Mar 31, 1:41pm

He could play either, but he said he's playing RB.

molodyets

Mar 31, 1:48pm

This narrative needs to die

puntersarepeople

Mar 31, 11:55am

narratives don't die when supported by data

Das_Countach

Mar 31, 12:37pm

Then why was your rebuttal a narrative and not more data

puntersarepeople

Mar 31, 12:40pm

None of what I said is a narrative, go watch Nacua's Deep Blue

Das_Countach

Mar 31, 3:17pm

Gotta have the QB man

TNT

Mar 31, 1:18pm

Oh, you mean our returning starter who got all Big12 honors last year?

Rise Against

Mar 31, 1:32pm

He's good not great. BYU needs a great QB

TNT

Mar 31, 1:40pm

Apparently we don't, since we just went 11-2 with what you call

Rise Against

Mar 31, 1:49pm

He has accuracy issues. He isn't the sole reason for BYU going 11-2

TNT

Mar 31, 1:59pm

He's good but he isn't anywhere near the Mount Rushmore of BYU QBs

TNT

Mar 31, 2:00pm

Never said he was. I'm just pointing out that we don't need a legendary level

Rise Against

Mar 31, 2:07pm

Agree. But where you and TNT differ is you think Jake is great. TNT thinks good

TNT

Mar 31, 2:14pm

Uh huh. The sole reason. Don't remember the pooch punt? Defense gave up scores. Such silliness doesn’t become a cougar

Hammurabi

Mar 31, 10:24pm

Not even blue-bloods have an elite QB every year. Get real and stop blaming ARod

puntersarepeople

Mar 31, 2:04pm

ARod still hasn't landed one. Why are you guys so defensive?

TNT

Mar 31, 2:07pm

Why are you so negative? ARod helped get both Zach Wilson and Jaren Hall to BYU.

Rise Against

Mar 31, 2:09pm

He isn't "so negative." He is in absolute admiration with what Jay Hill is doing

TNT

Mar 31, 2:13pm

Has Jay recruited anyone that is "Elite" at their position? I don't see a 5* on defense.

TheLoneCougar

Mar 31, 2:49pm

Why are you guys so insistent on worshipping Hill and giving Arod 0 credit?

puntersarepeople

Mar 31, 2:29pm

I think certain posters will perpetually be unsatisfied and look for any reason

Rise Against

Mar 31, 2:08pm

Please, enlighten us on how the offense isn't doing great with recruiting.

Rise Against

Mar 31, 1:30pm

Super tiresome. Sheesh. They just got a killer TE prospect and have been doing great recruiting.

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