Fine. Semantics don’t change the argument.

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Jan 1, 2025
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RobDog

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The arguments of why Boise is overrated is what others say about the 84 team.

maYbe

12/31/24 9:34pm

Except 84 didn't lose. Kind of a big difference.

byubyu

12/31/24 9:35pm

And beat 3 'P4' level teams... to 0.

Methusaleh22

12/31/24 9:36pm

Wrong! Boise lost. BYU never did...

Jericho

12/31/24 9:35pm

Twice even

VACOUGFAN

12/31/24 9:35pm

Maybe BSU should try winning their tough games instead of losing them.

tacallaway

12/31/24 9:36pm

BYU’s 84 schedule included two power conference teams and

BYU '80

12/31/24 9:36pm

BYU played in the WAC the MWC didn't exist in the 80s

acougfan

12/31/24 9:37pm

Already fixed and doesn’t change the point at all

BYU '80

12/31/24 9:38pm

BYU didn't beat a single top 20 team that year.

maYbe

12/31/24 9:41pm

We played our schedule and won every game.

Jericho

12/31/24 9:43pm

Boise beat exactly one ranked team and lost to two of them.

tacallaway

12/31/24 9:45pm

They’ve had better teams. Kellen Moore teams could have competed with anyone

BYU '80

12/31/24 9:46pm

Yeah, this is one of BSU's weaker "great" teams.

Jericho

12/31/24 9:48pm

They scheduled preseason number three and another power conference team

BYU '80

12/31/24 9:47pm

15 guys from that ‘84 team were eventually drafted in the NFL. BSU has Jeanty.

Housemartin

12/31/24 9:50pm

Key fact: they didn't lose to (checks notes) ANY team that year.

oxcoug

12/31/24 9:52pm

Who cares? Boise didn't deserve a bye or to be seeded above a P4 champ...

Mississippi

12/31/24 9:37pm

This x 1000

BYU '80

12/31/24 9:38pm

Except we won…and others refused to play us in a bowl.

dtownCoug

12/31/24 9:38pm

Eh. Football landscape was far different in 84. Was no consolidation of "P5"

oxcoug

12/31/24 9:43pm

LOL. Yes, 2-loss Boise is just like the undefeated 1984 champs. #utelogic

rivercitycoug

12/31/24 9:43pm

Not even close

2FarGone

12/31/24 9:46pm

This argument was used in 84 to say we should not be ranked 1. It’s the same

RobDog

12/31/24 9:58pm

Bsu lost twice and had a better opportunity to prove to be the best.

BYU '80

12/31/24 10:02pm

The argument is that they should not have been ranked 3

RobDog

12/31/24 10:05pm

Sorry lost track of the original argument. I think there was a better argument

BYU '80

12/31/24 10:30pm

They aren’t ranked 3. They were seeded 3 based on seeding rules.

dtownCoug

Jan 1, 8:16am

Fine. Semantics don’t change the argument.

RobDog

Jan 1, 8:20am

It does change the argument. People are saying they didn’t deserve a bye.

dtownCoug

Jan 1, 8:25am

That’s a fair distinction. I will take it up.

RobDog

Jan 1, 8:38am

We proved them wrong. BSU proved them right.

Methusaleh22

12/31/24 10:15pm

The argument was wrong either way. Nobody is saying that Boise should finish

RobDog

12/31/24 10:30pm

They earned a chance to prove that they didn’t belong, and they delivered

Jericho

12/31/24 10:33pm

Then stop saying they didn’t

RobDog

12/31/24 10:36pm

Show me where I said they didn’t earn the right to be in the playoffs

Jericho

12/31/24 10:43pm

Do you think we deserved a chance to play a BCS bowl in 96? If we did play

RobDog

Jan 1, 8:04am

If they lost in the opening round it would have been fine

Jericho

Jan 1, 10:01am

Who would you put in their place?

RobDog

Jan 1, 10:38am

Almost any team in the playoff was more deserving

Jericho

Jan 1, 10:57am

I disagree. And they played far better than all other losing teams so far.

RobDog

Jan 1, 11:01am

They scored 14 points and lost by 3 scores. Yay!!!

Methusaleh22

Jan 1, 11:16am

You serious? Texas and Penn St or Notre Dame should have received byes.

Methusaleh22

Jan 1, 11:15am

Show me where i said they didn't deserve a bid?

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