Completely disagree. You don't really learn until you do it without a calculator

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Dec 4, 2024
8:47:43am

SafetyFirst Starter

Completely disagree. You don't really learn until you do it without a calculator

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SafetyFirst

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Last login: Dec 4, 2024
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Daughter got caught turning in an AI generated paper for English. Me, trying to

rcbyufan

8:25am

Now don’t do that Jenny cuz you won’t learn run along now …. I’d have one of the

franklyvulgar

8:27am

There is nothing wrong with punishing your children for things that you did or might have done when you were younger.

Sea Chicken

8:29am

Yeah. It went well. She's a good kid and will turn out fine I think.

rcbyufan

8:31am

Me: Now let me show how to change the paper enough to get around it.

CougarTwins

8:30am

That was my first thought (not spoken out loud)

rcbyufan

8:31am

I guess I understand schools cracking down on this but companies are doing it…

Jay_L

8:31am

The assignment is there for the student to demonstrate evidence of learning

8:35am

BYU wont let you use calculators which is silly

Longseason

8:38am

Completely disagree. You don't really learn until you do it without a calculator

SafetyFirst

8:47am

Professionally, is it more important to learn it or to get the right answer?

Longseason

8:56am

Depends. It's true enough that lots of companies simply need people who,

Ghost of Peanut

9:06am

Being able to tell that the calculator gave you the wrong answer is the skill

rcbyufan

9:18am

This opens up a different debate- college is not set up as a professional prep

Ezy

10:05am

Yet companies use AI a ton now, so it's kind of hypocritical

RockyBalboa

9:18am

As someone that reviews a lot of college freshman essays, AI has made them so

LeGrandBleu

9:39am

It’s foolish for her teacher is foolish to try prevent this. AI is here, and

garyfan

8:36am

That would just mean that schools would stop teaching writing.

OrsoNero

8:36am

Doesn’t have to be that way at all. Schools still teach math in spite of

garyfan

8:38am

That's different than plugging a writing prompt into AI, though.

OrsoNero

8:46am

If the traditional writing assignments become useless in our new AI world,

garyfan

9:03am

This. AI is a tool. Use it.

Longseason

8:39am

Just switch up to the final assignment being handwritten in class without reference to the computer

9:00am

I think AI is most useful in writing the rough drafts, with humans coming in to

garyfan

9:07am

Which is fine. If they learned the content well enough to recreate it from 'scratch' with content notes-

9:17am

How did they know it was AI? They used AI to detect it. 🤷‍♂️

blueaussie

8:49am

There are tools

garyfan

8:51am

Yes tools that rely on AI technology to detect students using AI. No?

blueaussie

8:54am

Yes

garyfan

8:59am

It’s still fairly easy to recognize AI-written text, especially if the person is lazy and doesn’t give it any kind of

Mike Honcho

9:00am

Yup tends to be over explanatory in parts not necessary and very pedantic

franklyvulgar

9:03am

I say this as a former high school teacher. I think it is incredibly lazy for a

blueaussie

9:28am

Why is this a problem? While there are rules against using AI to write your

Tricky

9:09am

You make a fair point, but in my interactions with my kids and teachers on this

blueaussie

9:37am

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