Different eras… qb’s didn’t run back then unless you’re Randall Cunningham

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Nov 17, 2024
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Das_Countach

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Probability: Jake lands in the Feterik / Walsh range of BYU QBs who are good but

oxcoug

2:30pm

How does he compare to Sarks junior year?

cruiserhead

2:34pm

He was shaky and not good until he put it together in the final game for an

oxcoug

2:37pm

This year? Better than Sark’s jr year

Bluforever

2:59pm

Oh man. He's not as good as Walsh. That's just nuts

Belboz

2:36pm

When you factor his running ability vs Walsh's total inability to run he

oxcoug

2:37pm

I.e. that 5. whatever combine 40 that got him run from the NFL draft

oxcoug

2:40pm

I'll take a guy who is capable of throwing over 600 yards in a game

Belboz

2:43pm

Walsh went 2-6 vs current power programs. Got destroyed on most of those

oxcoug

2:48pm

Yeah, BYU had terrible defenses those years

Belboz

2:52pm

We scored 14 and he threw three INTs vs UCLA. Hard to write that off to our D.

oxcoug

2:57pm

Some of Retzlaff's big wins (SMU and Utah)

cwilke1

3:01pm

Sure. I wouldn't argue with that. Retz made a great play to get that SMU win tho

oxcoug

3:02pm

Because our defenses sucked.

NYCougz

2:53pm

Mmm hmm. See above.

oxcoug

2:57pm

They were bad. Full stop. Yes walsh had some clunkers but he was a good qb.

NYCougz

3:28pm

FYI I’m a Retz fan but Walsh had the unenviable task of coming after detmer.

NYCougz

3:32pm

Neither Walsh nor Retzlaff are playing defense and special teams. Retzlaff has

cwilke1

2:58pm

Different eras… qb’s didn’t run back then unless you’re Randall Cunningham

Das_Countach

2:42pm

How often does Retzlaff throw for 300, 400, 500, 619 yards in a game?

Belboz

2:43pm

As noted above. Walsh played UTEP twice, New Mexico, etc etc. And went 2-6 and

oxcoug

2:49pm

he played schedules similar to those of Wilson, McMahon, Steve Young, Bosco

Belboz

2:54pm

McMahon and Young were a combined 9-4 vs current P4 teams. Walsh was 2-6.

oxcoug

3:09pm

That includes wins over Wisky and Mizzou in addition to the obvious four wins

oxcoug

3:11pm

I was at the USU game but in general count me unimpressed with his leadership

GoodBetterBestBYU

2:54pm

Walsh is very underrated in byu lore

NYCougz

2:39pm

Walsh gets a bad rap because he didn’t beat Utah and BYU had horrid defenses

arizonacougarfan

2:45pm

Yep. And followed detmer.

NYCougz

2:52pm

Wash clears— (in the words of today’s kids)

Das_Countach

2:47pm

He can't throw the ball to the inside on that fade. That is QB 101 and speaks to your good, but not great argument.....

Bonoman

2:37pm

He is a "gamer" though and leaves it all out there. We know that, we also know the other stuff will happen too

Bonoman

2:38pm

Walsh was way better than Retzy

arizonacougarfan

2:44pm

Neither of those guys are a 10th the leader Jake is and didn’t face the competition or scrutiny. I’ll take retzlaff

GoodBetterBestBYU

2:50pm

Feterik seems like a really good comparison.

shoganai

2:56pm

That's pretty accurate I think. He's a pretty good QB, but not elite.

runnincoug

2:59pm

Maybe a better leader than pure QB skill, but so much improved YoY

GoodBetterBestBYU

3:10pm

yes, I'm glad to have him and am excited for his senior year!

runnincoug

4:02pm

He's got another year too. He improved a lot year 1 to year 2. I'd expect

pinolero

3:03pm

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