I think it was wise for the dad to call. You need a chance to get your lawyer ready. Dad calls police on Sunday. Says

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Nov 13, 2024
12:27:48pm

HarlemCoug Intervention Needed

I think it was wise for the dad to call. You need a chance to get your lawyer ready. Dad calls police on Sunday. Says

"I was an eye witness. The perp will meet you at the station with his attorney on Monday afternoon."

No way would I let my kid talk to the cops without an attorney present.

I'm not an attorney so if others would do it differently I'm happy to learn better ideas.

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Time

Details from the arrest of the bottle thrower-

byubyu

Nov 13, 9:42am

good for Dad, better late than never. (and maybe he didn't see it)

TheRowdy

Nov 13, 9:44am

Yep. Dad is helping him face consequences for his actions, that's the right thing to do.

durandal

Nov 13, 9:57am

The dad probably realized someone else would eventually ID them, so better to

CharlottesvilleCoug

Nov 13, 10:23am

So instead we'll assume the absolute worst possible motive?

durandal

Nov 13, 10:35am

Would your kid say F Utah and throw a water bottle at people all while

Cobra Venom

Nov 13, 11:33am

I don't know. BYU has not lost to Utah since they were babies, so hard to say.

RoboKayne

Nov 13, 1:18pm

Utah fan so it isn't an assumption.

shimmy

Nov 13, 11:42am

Well - why does the son feel comfortable yelling that and throwing the bottle in

truecougster

Nov 13, 1:07pm

Why not? The punk yelled expletives at the opposing team and threw

BlueFever

Nov 13, 1:50pm

Extreme ute fandom requires a little mental illness to be in there somewhere IMO.

Knight-who-says-ni

Nov 13, 2:27pm

You may be right.

BlueFever

Nov 13, 2:42pm

What are you even talking about? This is about the father's actions, not the son's.

durandal

Nov 13, 2:54pm

If Dad had turned him in right away I would assume good intentions but since he

CameronG

Nov 13, 4:26pm

Who's to say his dad knew where the bottle landed

roadrash

Nov 13, 5:43pm

He turned him in the next day. It was 1am what did you expect?

Cougarite

Nov 13, 6:41pm

Dude - c’mon. We have no idea so let’s not say probably.

RWaters

Nov 13, 10:37am

I'd probably assume they'd never identify him. And I'm not sure that it will

fattycoug

Nov 13, 10:52am

The first part of your post I think is very plausible. I know if that was me I would be assuming that my son would be

KYU

Nov 13, 12:43pm

Yep. Someone may have told them I’m telling the police or her remarks that they

Nov 13, 12:57pm

I'm prone to giving the Dad the benefit of the doubt that he was doing the right

CougarDanger

Nov 13, 11:09am

Exactly. Did the right thing regardless of motive.

Les IsMore

Nov 13, 3:07pm

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Ripliancum

Nov 13, 11:35am

Assumed dad was giving the son the opportunity to turn himself in, then turned

Ripliancum

Nov 13, 11:36am

Good for his dad turning him in. Nice life lesson to that kid

Cougz19

Nov 13, 9:44am

Assumption: Dad is a Ute fan too. Conclusion: Class exists somewhere among them

xgbs

Nov 13, 11:00am

Many Ute fans are good people. Just hard to see that amongst all the ones who

CougarDanger

Nov 13, 11:10am

Wow. Dad called in to say his son was the suspect.

dallasbyu

Nov 13, 9:44am

Sad all around. I'm hoping that some good can come out of this for both parties.

LegitCoug

Nov 13, 9:44am

It's good to know that the culprit was apprehended and will be held accountable

EM_Puma

Nov 13, 10:01am

My wife watches TV shows as background during the day. They are all

Nov 13, 12:47pm

I might have thought as my son's friend before I had seen what was happening to

EM_Puma

Nov 13, 1:19pm

Sad, on many levels.

WIGGIN

Nov 13, 9:45am

Good job Dad. Not sure about the timing and there are many things we will not

Cougar TD

Nov 13, 9:46am

This is definitely 100% speculation on my part, but the timing of it and the dad

TheNerd

Nov 13, 9:51am

Here’s some more speculation…. I wonder if the U told him you better figure out

Cougar86

Nov 13, 9:58am

Could have easily been this, either way I am glad that they are moving forward

Cougar TD

Nov 13, 10:40am

That's a lot of speculation. It wasn't widely reported until Monday. Get's

fattycoug

Nov 13, 10:54am

They may not have even known it hit someone until they heard it on the news the

Cougarite

Nov 13, 2:00pm

👏 for dad

cheezedawg

Nov 13, 9:47am

That was a hard thing to do, Dad.

DirtyWater

Nov 13, 9:50am

I'm guessing dad only turned him in when he knew he was going to get caught.

kimdaddy35

Nov 13, 9:56am

Could have also wanted to contact his attorney first as well?

RootieBoy

Nov 13, 9:58am

What’s the plan there? Hope the attorney

Nov 13, 10:00am

You should always have a defense attorney when facing charges.

sidsie716

Nov 13, 10:17am

Are you an attorney?

sfeuz

Nov 13, 12:26pm

No. Forensic Psychologist (but I have a JD along with a PhD- joint grad program)

sidsie716

Nov 13, 2:06pm

Always consult with an attorney if you know you are about to be arrested, always

RenoCoug

Nov 13, 11:58am

The fact Dad had to do it means the son refused after Dad tried to get him to do

DirtyWater

Nov 13, 9:58am

What you are suggesting makes a lot of sense

KYU

Nov 13, 12:45pm

Yeah, I'm sure they knew that with all the video and witnesses that it would get

QBarrister

Nov 13, 9:59am

Early Sunday morning there were already reports that authorities had a good idea

bluesloth

Nov 13, 10:06am

I think it's entirely possible dad (or kid) didn't know it hit anyone until it

fattycoug

Nov 13, 10:55am

Possible, but seems unlikely. If I threw something I would watch to see where it went.

kimdaddy35

Nov 13, 12:39pm

If that was the case, how would he ever know it was his bottle that hit her?

kansascougar

Nov 13, 1:00pm

Intent irrelevant. He did a good thing.

xgbs

Nov 13, 11:01am

Kids these days don't know how to talk on phones. Esp 'suite' kids

Dataguy

Nov 13, 11:56am

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preneur

Nov 13, 10:07am

Eeek. Ouch, that would hurt, but wouldn't reflect on him in my opinion because

EM_Puma

Nov 13, 10:11am

Feel bad for Christian Gardner, who seems like a great guy

anonymous37

Nov 13, 10:26am

.

ParentingNotForSissy

Nov 13, 11:57am

Maybe not his dad, but highly

Thunder

Nov 13, 10:18am

is this the Kem Gardner family? I assume it was his suite and his grandson

stan

Nov 13, 5:55pm

Pretty sure it wasn't Christian's son--he doesn't have an 18yo son iirc

Buckeye

Nov 13, 11:22am

So was it metal or plastic?

Heath Squashwell

Nov 13, 10:13am

Plastic

JuicyJam

Nov 13, 10:14am

But full - still had some heft. Very dangerous object launched from upstairs like that.

CalGTR

Nov 13, 10:27am

It says disposable water bottle.

Madam Pattirini

Nov 13, 10:32am

Right, so probably plastic, but I've seen more and more aluminum disposable water bottles at

bag

Nov 13, 10:35am

It was disposable impact 12 venues disposable water bottles are normally aluminum

KYU

Nov 13, 12:46pm

Wow won’t be hard to prove motive with what he yelled

cypresstx

Nov 13, 10:19am

What motive would they be trying to prove that would be difficult without his

SuperTank

Nov 13, 10:59am

Hate crime

mvtoro

Nov 13, 11:49am

Class A Misdemeanor is the most serious level. In addition to other aspects of sentence, I vote that his

CLCougar

Nov 13, 10:42am

He should clean the toilets with his Utah hoodie, the only thing to do with it.

Nov 13, 12:51pm

The victim needs to make sure assault charges are filed and then a civil against

sfeuz

Nov 13, 1:13pm

RE: The victim needs to make sure assault charges are filed and then a civil

8:18am

Why so many cbers being soft on this jerk, who's mimicking the worst yewt fans.

sfeuz

Nov 13, 1:15pm

Not mimcking....HE IS ONE OF. THE WORST UTE FANS

TheHop

Nov 13, 1:21pm

Dad should have had his son make the call.

goseabass

Nov 13, 11:00am

If 18 year old refused to, you cannot exactly physically force them to.

sidsie716

Nov 13, 11:14am

I think it was wise for the dad to call. You need a chance to get your lawyer ready. Dad calls police on Sunday. Says

HarlemCoug

Nov 13, 12:27pm

This is PR driven, Dad is helping the U's image, not doing right by his son

davidsonlaw

Nov 13, 11:19am

Kid was screaming *F* BYU and throwing stuff while there with family... what a great family.

AltTabbins

Nov 13, 11:24am

Lots of great families have kids who do stupid things

Buckeye

Nov 13, 11:44am

How many of them do it right there with the family?

AltTabbins

Nov 13, 11:46am

They have money......They most likely are going to pay big time.

TheHop

Nov 13, 11:40am

The 18 year old son may not have money.

ParentingNotForSissy

Nov 13, 12:13pm

They would sue the owner of the suite tickets then.

VACOUGFAN

Nov 13, 3:31pm

Sue the program that promotes that behavior, a la Harlan (and his non-reprimand)

Brandoblueblood

Nov 13, 5:13pm

Them too. There will be plenty of parties.

VACOUGFAN

Nov 13, 7:22pm

I'm sure a plea is already in the works

Fido

Nov 13, 11:43am

Where did you get that info? Link?

kansascougar

Nov 13, 11:45am

Not overly worried about criminal prosecution. Families with Table seats have money, and she’ll get a nice piece in her

mvtoro

Nov 13, 11:50am

Good on them for calling this in, respect

RenoCoug

Nov 13, 11:56am

"Remember everyone - this kind of thing happens at

CougarLegend

Nov 13, 12:27pm

We threw pom poms at the refs at half time of a game against Utah at LES.

LeGrandBleu

Nov 13, 1:20pm

Rekt

eysikal

Nov 13, 12:33pm

Last name is familiar

The Grrinch

Nov 13, 2:40pm

Maybe grandson, someone said Dad is Christan

sfeuz

Nov 13, 4:32pm

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The Grrinch

Nov 13, 4:39pm

Wow. Big respect to the dad

Nov 13, 4:09pm

My wife thought maybe the bottle was for Cosmo, who was in the area.

sfeuz

Nov 13, 4:36pm

I guarantee he wasn’t aiming for her specifically. If he were, it would be somewhat worse, but the seriousness of an

mvtoro

Nov 13, 4:50pm

Embarrassing for Ken Garff?

Brandoblueblood

Nov 13, 5:12pm

We hear you saying F--- BYU!

davidsonlaw

7:02am

Most likely Dad called police on behalf of son to avoid additional dumb behavior

Nov 13, 5:31pm

Maybe he'll reform and start rooting for BYU.

Blue Ghost

12:20am

If he roots for BYU an he throws a water bottle at Utah's cheerleaders? I wonder

RoboKayne

11:02am

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