But as you implied, if they think he's done a horrible job this might be seen as

Nov 11, 2024
12:54:17pm

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a refusal to take any accountability and blame everyone else for the problems, which could fire up critics that are just tired of him.

I have no idea about the dynamic at play here, I'm just commenting generally on human nature.

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My Sources Tell Me Harlan is in a World of Hurt

ghettomagic

Nov 11, 12:48pm

That would imply the University disagrees with him. That can't be true.

Cougarclaw

Nov 11, 12:49pm

True....since Whit was yelling at the refs too.

WJCougar

Nov 11, 12:50pm

On the field yelling at the refs by the head coach is nothing, even after games.

RenoCoug

Nov 11, 12:58pm

Going after refs while ignoring the opposing coach who just wanted to shake hands is pretty shameful IMO.

Knight-who-says-ni

Nov 11, 1:43pm

Whitt and Kalani hugged right before Whitt went off on the refs. They'd already

jwalk

Nov 11, 1:46pm

Ok. Mea Culpa. I must have missed that clip. I only saw the one where KS looked uncomfortable

Knight-who-says-ni

Nov 11, 1:54pm

He looked uncomfortable because Whit gave him a quick bro hug then attacked ref.

ochobeeguy

Nov 12, 8:06am

thats not what happened

TheHop

Nov 11, 1:46pm

I'm not defending Whitt, but to stay he ignored Kalani isn't accurate

jwalk

Nov 11, 1:56pm

RE: thats not what happened

K-So

Nov 11, 4:16pm

Not much of a "going after the refs"

Les IsMore

Nov 11, 4:29pm

RE: thats not what happened

TheHop

Nov 11, 4:30pm

RE: thats not what happened

K-So

Nov 11, 5:08pm

RE: thats not what happened

TheHop

Nov 11, 5:12pm

This is what happened, and the video is clear - KW clearly extended his hand,

jaba166

Nov 11, 6:01pm

I don’t know if it’s really possible for KW

foosman

Nov 11, 6:26pm

That's probably true - he's definitely not warm and fuzzy like KS . . unless,

jaba166

Nov 11, 6:57pm

I agree with your interpretation of their current friendship. To me it was

Schultz is back

Nov 11, 10:03pm

Just because someone goes in with a handshake doesn't mean they are against hug

cruoti

Nov 11, 6:39pm

KW knows KS is a hugger though. Everyone knows that.

VACOUGFAN

Nov 11, 6:56pm

Even if you agreed with his sentiment, his childish behavior put their only

Jericho

Nov 11, 12:51pm

I wish a byu player had accidentally run into him during his tantrum

BYU '80

Nov 11, 2:21pm

If they don’t fire him they align with him.

xgbs

Nov 11, 2:03pm

"90% decent Utah fans." I suggest you stay away from anyone with a breathalyzer.

DeepCCoug

Nov 11, 3:29pm

90% decent, not 90% of fans who are decent. 😉

xgbs

Nov 11, 4:20pm

What's 90% of two?

Les IsMore

Nov 11, 4:31pm

He means "decent" as in "dressed." "Come in, I'm decent!"

Brandoblueblood

Nov 11, 5:40pm

He epitomizes Utah and their fan base. They would need new admin too

Bobmarleyjr

Nov 11, 2:16pm

True, but they need something/someone to blame because accepting the truth about their university

BYU Tar Heel

Nov 11, 2:52pm

I think with bball issues and current state of football program it put a target

U2wearblue

Nov 11, 4:12pm

I'm guessing fans and admin are probably more upset with the state of the

Huge Manatee

Nov 11, 12:49pm

But as you implied, if they think he's done a horrible job this might be seen as

Tricky

Nov 11, 12:54pm

Bingo!

ghettomagic

Nov 11, 12:54pm

What a disgrace to all the Utah taxpayers who had money forced from their hands

Brandoblueblood

Nov 11, 1:57pm

Harlan has always been a clown.

Real Men Wear Blue

Nov 11, 4:56pm

It really is so embarrassing to have the head of your athletic department walking on the field during a live play to

slappy

Nov 11, 12:51pm

How is he different than any other idiot fan streaking across the field?

Brandoblueblood

Nov 11, 1:57pm

Field pass

calbearcoug

Nov 11, 1:58pm

So he's no different than any other fan with a field pass.

Brandoblueblood

Nov 11, 4:04pm

If you say so.

calbearcoug

Nov 11, 4:45pm

He’s a representative of the university. He’s the head of all athletics. He knows exactly what his actions merit and

BYU Grounds

Nov 11, 4:38pm

Yep. And the U likely has a code of conduct their employees have to abide by.

SJS

Nov 11, 4:52pm

So he's worse than the average fan running onto the field. He's specifically...

Brandoblueblood

Nov 11, 5:41pm

He is the Athletic Director

Blue Heart

Nov 11, 5:16pm

And that makes him different than any other person with a field pass how?

Brandoblueblood

Nov 11, 5:44pm

Maybe I misunderstood the question

Blue Heart

Nov 11, 5:59pm

That is the kicker. Theoretically, he could have physically disrupted the game.

Chase

Nov 11, 2:59pm

Yes, it shouldn't just be a penalty, it should be a criminal charge

Brandoblueblood

Nov 11, 5:45pm

RE: My Sources Tell Me Harlan is in a World of Hurt

TheHop

Nov 11, 12:51pm

Firing him is the right thing that I hope doesn’t happen. He’s a useful fool

Big Daddy D

Nov 11, 12:51pm

Exactly. The curse is now owned by him and Huntley

BYU '80

Nov 11, 2:22pm

They really need to clean house, force KW to "retire" too.

BigHouse Coug

Nov 11, 12:52pm

Is your source related to a Rasband, Huntsman, or Eccles?

MajorZeus

Nov 11, 12:53pm

Rasband? Why on earth would he care?

kansascougar

Nov 11, 2:18pm

He went to Utah, so I imagine he's a big fan.

coventry94

Nov 11, 3:44pm

RE: He went to Utah, so I imagine he's a big fan.

kansascougar

Nov 11, 3:47pm

Maybe don’t imagine and guess……

kansascougar

Nov 11, 3:47pm

He left one semester short of graduating to work for Huntsman.

coventry94

Nov 11, 8:41pm

I know that. Cheering for them and suggesting he would have any opinion

kansascougar

Nov 11, 8:51pm

Rasband is much more involved in BYU sports. His son here in Orlando area was in charge of the UCF game tailgate for BYU

CLCougar

Nov 11, 4:16pm

He really should be. We'll see.

fbguru

Nov 11, 12:53pm

There were three things that were for sure going to happen

bythenumbers

Nov 11, 12:54pm

There was no apology, just lots of words and mansplaining

NYC and Japan

Nov 11, 1:41pm

Blamed it on hurt feelings of his players

WJCougar

Nov 11, 2:07pm

Which was a lie as he hadn’t even been to the locker room

BYU '80

Nov 11, 2:23pm

Walked straight from his penalty for disrupting final play to disrupt press conf

NYC and Japan

Nov 11, 3:25pm

ya - there were not even the words "I'm sorry for ..." in his statement

CoolB

Nov 11, 4:25pm

But what does he think of Isaac Wilson at QB?

kccougar

Nov 11, 12:55pm

I wish I could have seen Yormark’s face as he heard Harlan’s “I’m calling the

Big Daddy D

Nov 11, 12:57pm

Here are some reasons it could happen:

zonacougar

Nov 11, 12:58pm

All good reasons. Dr Hill made allegations of a toxic environment some years

MajorZeus

Nov 11, 1:01pm

#4 is the reason I'd fire him. It's wild that his impromptu press conference is

fattycoug

Nov 11, 1:30pm

Their donors love this behavior or they would do something to stop it

BYU '80

Nov 11, 2:24pm

In regards to number 5, do you know for a fact that ‘damage is being done to

Soy Celeste

Nov 11, 2:39pm

All of your given reasons are accurate. They know their problems.

DeepCCoug

Nov 11, 3:34pm

You need to add #6: Harlan is in no way remorseful for his petulant behavior

cougarmeister

Nov 11, 4:38pm

I'd add another

deliciousmocha

Nov 11, 5:24pm

Add to that his comments can be construed that the admin doesn't like the B12 in

P-Widdy

Nov 11, 7:33pm

I hate calling for someone's head, but in all honesty he should be fired. I'm still in shock over

kimdaddy35

Nov 11, 1:04pm

I hope not. He sucks at his job. May UU keep him for the next 50 years.

ldssdl

Nov 11, 1:06pm

His running on the field during a play is the worst of it.

Belboz

Nov 11, 1:13pm

It's funny that they let the play go on to give them hope.

BigHouse Coug

Nov 11, 1:26pm

I wish they'd blown it dead long before the play actually ended...then fans

AlternateShot

Nov 11, 3:25pm

how sweet would have that been?! I really wish they scored on that!

fattycoug

Nov 11, 1:31pm

I would have loved to see him get an inadvertent pitch as they

Pangare

Nov 11, 2:05pm

Or accidentally trip the player with the ball!

libertycoug

Nov 11, 3:53pm

Especially based on what we know he said. I bet that former Pac12 refs handed

BYU '80

Nov 11, 2:25pm

^^^^^ This. If Utah returned that kick, then the hold would almost be forgotten.

RecoveringLawyer

Nov 11, 2:46pm

I thought so, too, but I think it's the case that an unsportsmanlike penalty on

SoCalCoug

Nov 11, 3:11pm

That would have gotten him fired for sure!!!

trumpetur

Nov 11, 5:14pm

There are already performance-based reasons established that justify his firing

CougarCanuck76

Nov 11, 1:46pm

#KeepHimPlease!

Your Royal Blueness

Nov 11, 1:47pm

They need to introspect more. Why take tax money to do...this? Killtheprogram.

Brandoblueblood

Nov 11, 1:51pm

Is introspect a verb?

calbearcoug

Nov 11, 4:45pm

Yes:

Brandoblueblood

Nov 11, 5:46pm

Wasn't Harlan the "Give me a break" guy?

YankeeCoug

Nov 11, 1:56pm

Yes. Same putz.

fbguru

Nov 11, 2:38pm

He's also a public employee of the State, he supposed to keep a higher standard

Samuel Hall Society

Nov 11, 2:01pm

He needs to learn you support the school to the press, and support your team in the locker room.

AltTabbins

Nov 11, 2:03pm

My brain told me that right after seeing what he said and did. I don't think

BlueTooth

Nov 11, 2:07pm

I think let his emotions get the best of him. He didn’t act rationally after a

Soy Celeste

Nov 11, 3:12pm

Yeah but he doubled down too with that non-apology.

Brandoblueblood

Nov 11, 4:05pm

Ute football currently sucks. So does Ute basketball. He's on the hot seat.

DeepCCoug

Nov 11, 3:38pm

NOOOOO! Best thing that ever happened to Utah athletics.

Socrates Johnson

Nov 11, 2:12pm

Doubtful. They all agree with him.

BYU '80

Nov 11, 2:19pm

Living pretentiously will bring you that kind of Karma.

VenomFarmer

Nov 11, 2:24pm

CB understands Harlan needs to keep his job and for as long as possible right?

Ripliancum

Nov 11, 2:41pm

Petulant? That's a big word for their fan base and donors

tyler durden

Nov 11, 2:46pm

I saw several Reddit comments saying a lot of people at the U have been

Polecat

Nov 11, 2:46pm

No university president or BOD or high-end donors want to be embarrassed by

Chase

Nov 11, 3:16pm

Harlan just stepped to the front of Utah’s toxic image problem.

Shawarma

Nov 11, 3:31pm

"Embrace the dark side, Utah...YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO. YOU KNOW!!!

DeepCCoug

Nov 11, 3:40pm

Good he was completely unprofessional

BYUvermont

Nov 11, 3:40pm

He released a non-apology statement. That's it.

mannheimadler

Nov 11, 3:45pm

No, keep him! Let him destroy the program a little more before he goes

Resurgens

Nov 11, 3:51pm

I think we should start a movement for them to keep him. He is good for BYU.

AZPTCOUG

Nov 11, 3:58pm

If I were high level donors I’d be looking at having Whitt join Harlan…

icecougar

Nov 11, 3:59pm

Spoke with a member of the board at the U a couple weeks ago

4thand19

Nov 11, 4:08pm

Scalley is not “new direction.” He’s nothing more than Whitt 2.0.

Soy Celeste

Nov 11, 4:14pm

Seems likely to me that he already felt his seat was hot, and that might have

russkiejedi

Nov 11, 4:00pm

I think this is correct. This has become a major embarrassment for the

WillsPitStop

Nov 11, 4:00pm

Has the University released a apology - Or Harlan?

TeeKaa

Nov 11, 4:07pm

Hopefully they keep him. The implosion of the program has been a fantastic side

Ray Shoesmith

Nov 11, 4:16pm

I just hope they don’t go out and hire the next Urban Myer, or SMU’s coach.

Shawarma

Nov 11, 4:27pm

Gotta think Prez Randall is embarrassed & angry after his "Rival Right" campaign

cougarmeister

Nov 11, 4:34pm

I’m honestly surprised he hasn’t been fired yet.

Boring

Nov 11, 4:40pm

He at the least deserved probation pending administrative review.

Boring

Nov 11, 4:41pm

Firing him would be admitting they were wrong.

HuskerFan2

Nov 11, 4:43pm

Have you ever lost it? I have more often than I'd like to admit. Harlan is wrong

rockyrd

Nov 11, 4:45pm

we don't see AD's of other schools on the field during play because it's not that hard to control yourself.

HarlemCoug

Nov 11, 4:56pm

Even nearly all fans have more self control than this...Athletic Director.

Brandoblueblood

Nov 11, 5:48pm

People who lose it like that don't have jobs like this.

calbearcoug

Nov 11, 5:33pm

fine to say that and he could have garnered some sympathy but he doubled down

oryguncoug

Nov 11, 5:54pm

It is the Ultimate Sin in our secular society: NEVER EMBARRASS YOUR BOSS

ninja math

Nov 11, 4:59pm

I can’t tell if this is satire or not

ColonelMustard

Nov 11, 4:59pm

In light of the 'Rival Right' campaign, it'll look real bad if they don't fire

Orem58thBall

Nov 11, 5:25pm

The most egregious thing wasn’t yelling at the officials on the field or

BYUFan2010

Nov 11, 5:48pm

That would probably be a bad thing for us. Hope he stays there.

ybecausethatswhy

Nov 11, 6:20pm

Is there anyone else on CB that hasn't had a chance to comment?

Plantagenet

Nov 11, 6:27pm

The fact that even if Utah ran it back, it would be called back because of

Veep

Nov 11, 6:31pm

The incident really hurts the Utah brand. I’d fire the AD.

GMGlenn

Nov 11, 6:32pm

Did you hear that from a cougar fan?

davidmj10

Nov 11, 6:57pm

RE: Did you hear that from a cougar fan?

Shawarma

Nov 11, 7:00pm

Harlan should keep his job because he's added entertainment for the rivalry game

greatbam

Nov 11, 7:10pm

Yahtzee

DirtyWater

Nov 11, 10:04pm

Fixed and made it a yahtzee again. Someone took away their POTD.

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