This is what the Big12 doc says, doesn't seem like its ambiguous, but maybe it

Nov 1, 2024
2:59:56pm

BYUFootballisBack Intervention Needed

could be?

"After one team has an advantage and is “seeded”, all remaining teams in the multiple team tiebreaker will repeat the tie-breaking procedure."

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Detailed tiebreaker analysis between BYU, ISU, KSU, and Colorado

zuko

Nov 1, 1:38pm

If KS loses 1 OR if ISU and CO both lose 1 b4 Farmageddon then we're in @ 11-1

Greg4BYU

Nov 1, 1:43pm

11-1 BYU only needs KSU to lose one more to get in for sure. But if KSU wins out

zuko

Nov 1, 1:46pm

OK. I edited my post

Greg4BYU

Nov 1, 1:54pm

I think you mean if BYU is 11-1, not 11-0. Great work.

durandal

Nov 1, 1:49pm

Thanks, fixed

zuko

Nov 1, 1:52pm

Interesting, if KSU loses this week our odds shoot up, but our resume gets worse

BYUCLA

Nov 1, 1:53pm

This is why I'm rooting for KState against the Coogs.

HandwovenBox

Nov 1, 2:05pm

I would argue our chances are better of winning the CCG than being picked as an

wannnacruise

Nov 1, 2:20pm

You've got something wrong there. We are guaranteed a spot if our 1 loss is ASU

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 1, 2:20pm

And if Colorado wins out and ISU and KSU are 11-1 we can lose to Houston

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 1, 2:20pm

Issues with your 11-1 isu/ksu and colorado 9-3 as well, we are in if we lose

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 1, 2:25pm

I agree. If our 1 loss is to ASU we are in. KSU wins the 3-way tiebreaker on

RGGeemer

Nov 1, 2:26pm

Also issues with the 10-2 isu 10-2 colorado 11-1 ksu one, we are in if our loss

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 1, 2:28pm

Hmm, let me investigate this

zuko

Nov 1, 2:30pm

The 3 way tiebreaker restarts once a team is picked, so once Kansas State gets

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 1, 2:39pm

Interesting, I've been interpreting the tiebreaker procedures differently

zuko

Nov 1, 2:57pm

This is what the Big12 doc says, doesn't seem like its ambiguous, but maybe it

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 1, 2:59pm

Part of what makes me think we are guaranteed a spot with only 1 loss is the

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 1, 3:08pm

Yep. It starts over.

RGGeemer

Nov 1, 3:30pm

We are in 100% at 11-1 IF the conference interpretation of the tiebreaker rules

RGGeemer

Nov 1, 2:20pm

Gotta love rules that are written such that they need "interpretation"

Greg4BYU

Nov 1, 2:33pm

We need divisions.

RGGeemer

Nov 1, 2:34pm

Except that opens the door for 1 WEAK division and 1 STRONG one

Greg4BYU

Nov 1, 2:38pm

So? Better than going undefeated and maybe missing your CCG (SMU this year)

RGGeemer

Nov 1, 2:45pm

In that strong division, the two best teams will play each other and the winner

RGGeemer

Nov 1, 2:46pm

It's not a concern to me in the new 12 team playoff. I could see it with 4. Not

RGGeemer

Nov 1, 2:47pm

Alright, I fixed the tables to use the same tiebreaker rules as this website

zuko

Nov 1, 3:28pm

Looks more like what I expected.

RGGeemer

Nov 1, 3:33pm

I have decided that he is interpreting it wrong 🙂 1 loss and we are 100% in CCG

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 1, 3:37pm

I hope so!!

RGGeemer

Nov 1, 3:43pm

In summary

UnoDoctor

Nov 1, 4:52pm

If we lose 0 or 1 games we are in incredible shape

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 1, 5:24pm

We really needed UCF to beat ISU and KU to beat K State. Oh well.

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