Interesting, I've been interpreting the tiebreaker procedures differently

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Nov 1, 2024
2:57:40pm

zuko All-American

Interesting, I've been interpreting the tiebreaker procedures differently

I've been interpreting "remaining tied teams" to mean "all remaining teams that are still tied after applying the tiebreaker steps thus far". But I can see how you could interpret it to mean "all the teams that were originally tied that didn't get seeded in 1st place". I'll fix this and run the simulations again

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Detailed tiebreaker analysis between BYU, ISU, KSU, and Colorado

zuko

Nov 1, 1:38pm

If KS loses 1 OR if ISU and CO both lose 1 b4 Farmageddon then we're in @ 11-1

Greg4BYU

Nov 1, 1:43pm

11-1 BYU only needs KSU to lose one more to get in for sure. But if KSU wins out

zuko

Nov 1, 1:46pm

OK. I edited my post

Greg4BYU

Nov 1, 1:54pm

I think you mean if BYU is 11-1, not 11-0. Great work.

durandal

Nov 1, 1:49pm

Thanks, fixed

zuko

Nov 1, 1:52pm

Interesting, if KSU loses this week our odds shoot up, but our resume gets worse

BYUCLA

Nov 1, 1:53pm

This is why I'm rooting for KState against the Coogs.

Nov 1, 2:05pm

I would argue our chances are better of winning the CCG than being picked as an

Nov 1, 2:20pm

You've got something wrong there. We are guaranteed a spot if our 1 loss is ASU

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 1, 2:20pm

And if Colorado wins out and ISU and KSU are 11-1 we can lose to Houston

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 1, 2:20pm

Issues with your 11-1 isu/ksu and colorado 9-3 as well, we are in if we lose

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 1, 2:25pm

I agree. If our 1 loss is to ASU we are in. KSU wins the 3-way tiebreaker on

RGGeemer

Nov 1, 2:26pm

Also issues with the 10-2 isu 10-2 colorado 11-1 ksu one, we are in if our loss

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 1, 2:28pm

Hmm, let me investigate this

zuko

Nov 1, 2:30pm

The 3 way tiebreaker restarts once a team is picked, so once Kansas State gets

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 1, 2:39pm

Interesting, I've been interpreting the tiebreaker procedures differently

zuko

Nov 1, 2:57pm

This is what the Big12 doc says, doesn't seem like its ambiguous, but maybe it

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 1, 2:59pm

Part of what makes me think we are guaranteed a spot with only 1 loss is the

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 1, 3:08pm

Yep. It starts over.

RGGeemer

Nov 1, 3:30pm

We are in 100% at 11-1 IF the conference interpretation of the tiebreaker rules

RGGeemer

Nov 1, 2:20pm

Gotta love rules that are written such that they need "interpretation"

Greg4BYU

Nov 1, 2:33pm

We need divisions.

RGGeemer

Nov 1, 2:34pm

Except that opens the door for 1 WEAK division and 1 STRONG one

Greg4BYU

Nov 1, 2:38pm

So? Better than going undefeated and maybe missing your CCG (SMU this year)

RGGeemer

Nov 1, 2:45pm

In that strong division, the two best teams will play each other and the winner

RGGeemer

Nov 1, 2:46pm

It's not a concern to me in the new 12 team playoff. I could see it with 4. Not

RGGeemer

Nov 1, 2:47pm

Alright, I fixed the tables to use the same tiebreaker rules as this website

zuko

Nov 1, 3:28pm

Looks more like what I expected.

RGGeemer

Nov 1, 3:33pm

I have decided that he is interpreting it wrong 🙂 1 loss and we are 100% in CCG

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 1, 3:37pm

I hope so!!

RGGeemer

Nov 1, 3:43pm

In summary

UnoDoctor

Nov 1, 4:52pm

If we lose 0 or 1 games we are in incredible shape

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 1, 5:24pm

We really needed UCF to beat ISU and KU to beat K State. Oh well.

Captain Rex

Nov 1, 6:29pm

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