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Oct 22, 2024
10:11:11pm

FromCAtoUT All-American

I sat in on an explanation from Tom Holmoe to newly arriving Freshman athletes and their parents. Long story short is

That there is no longer a 1 strike your out, 2 strikes your out, 3 strikes your out, 4 strikes etc…

Kids make mistakes and BYU is about helping them be better people when they leave the school than when they arrive. There are kids genuinely working on things and showing positive steps in the right direction that they want to continue to support.

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FromCAtoUT

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Time

BYU honor code enforcement in the NIL era

CasualFan

Oct 22, 1:36pm

I think BYU quietly decided to keep all HC issues in house.

BlueVU

Oct 22, 1:37pm

Hopefully because I always thought that was the right thing to do.

CasualFan

Oct 22, 1:38pm

That's exactly why they did it.

ochobeeguy

Oct 22, 1:49pm

They have. If someone is willing to commit and try, HC isn’t a factor.

Mjolnir

Oct 22, 2:09pm

It's the right thing to do.

Archaea

Oct 22, 1:38pm

This is the correct way to handle it. Nothing about an HC violation should be

Cougar TD

Oct 22, 1:48pm

But the player is mysteriously suspended. I wonder how BYU would explain that?

CT98

Oct 22, 10:13pm

Starting right after the Brandon Davies thing, they started saying all

gwalker

Oct 22, 1:39pm

The HCO has had a more forgiving approach even before NIL. Getting rid of

Odysseus

Oct 22, 1:39pm

And the Title 9 scandal and subsequent split off/reorg

tacallaway

Oct 22, 1:44pm

^^^This^^^

BYU Grounds

Oct 22, 4:12pm

The anonymous complaints were a big thing. I also think Kalani has made it a big part of buying in for the guys.

jpesk2

Oct 22, 1:45pm

It's the elephant in the room that nobody really has an elegant way to address.

shoganai

Oct 22, 1:43pm

I thought that was a pretty elegant way your described it.

AlexKnight

Oct 22, 6:46pm

The honor code is more of a suggestion than an actual code these days

BYU Fan

Oct 22, 1:54pm

My neighbor was literally complaining a few Saturdays ago about players

Undefeated

Oct 22, 1:55pm

Kingston shaved his head last year.

DizzyDean

Oct 22, 2:05pm

Got 20 years on your neighbor. Long hair is no big deal. Just wish I had more.

rmsenior

Oct 22, 2:09pm

I'm a 60s fan

ElmerAlbert

Oct 22, 4:09pm

Well, he's right in line with the BYU I knew...super judgemental about all the

AlternateShot

Oct 22, 4:38pm

I have been involved with this. It is not correct to say they don’t enforce the

BaseCoug

Oct 22, 2:51pm

If a player is suspended you can't keep that secret. There has to be a change

kosmokramer

Oct 22, 3:15pm

I have always said that students who violate HC should have Spiritual penalties

CT98

Oct 22, 10:19pm

Don't know anything about HC enforcement, but I think BYU's clean environment

Oct 22, 7:52pm

Coaches have always done this. That hasn't changed at all.

Lance71

Oct 22, 10:06pm

I sat in on an explanation from Tom Holmoe to newly arriving Freshman athletes and their parents. Long story short is

FromCAtoUT

Oct 22, 10:11pm

I worked at BYUI and was in a bishopric there. I can confirm

coventry94

Oct 22, 11:19pm

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